Mainstream Media
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I asked that about 30 posts ago and have not gotten a straight answer yet.
I still trust most of the media news outlets. I'll read from multiple sources to see how a story is portrayed. I don't think that the media has an "agenda". I think it's the other way around. News outlets report on what their readers / viewers want to see.
If you look up sexual assault on HuffPo, then you get stories of date rape and other #MeToo moments. If you look it up on Fox News or Breitbart, then you get stories that generally only involve Muslims in the Middle East or illegals in the States. Both are valid issues to be concerned about but those news places are reporting on what their readers want to know about.
Liberals spend too much blasting every single thing the President does and Conservatives spend too much time praising every little thing he does. You have to read everything in order to get a full story of what's going on.
If you look up sexual assault on HuffPo, then you get stories of date rape and other #MeToo moments. If you look it up on Fox News or Breitbart, then you get stories that generally only involve Muslims in the Middle East or illegals in the States. Both are valid issues to be concerned about but those news places are reporting on what their readers want to know about.
Liberals spend too much blasting every single thing the President does and Conservatives spend too much time praising every little thing he does. You have to read everything in order to get a full story of what's going on.
I highly recommend www.allsides.com.
It compiles news and opinion from all sides of the spectrum, and sorts it out for you, so that you can see the underlying bias of each source. Which helps discern the truth within all the noise.
It compiles news and opinion from all sides of the spectrum, and sorts it out for you, so that you can see the underlying bias of each source. Which helps discern the truth within all the noise.
I used to read HuffPo everyday until they totally went off the cliff. Haven't read it in years.
I used to watch News Hour every night for years because they seemed "fair." They didn't go off the cliff but they veered left and no longer seemed unbiased. I stopped watching in the run-up to the '16 election.
ZERO! And I haven’t had any confidence in it for quite some time. Never will. The MSM is nothing more than a podium for the left. They claim they’re not biased, but anyone with a single living brain cell knows better.
Since it doesn't even seem likely that there can even be a D convention, it wouldn't surprise me to see them dump Biden (who seems unelectable) and draft someone like Gov Cuomo.
Just a general observation and question.
If you don’t watch the news and if you’re not a witness to daily events, how in the hell can you come to any worthwhile conclusions or have any informed opinions about anything?
My guess is that if the news event is critical or can be seen in any way as a negative for “your side” you are automatically dismissing it as “political slant” or otherwise politically motivated regardless of the actual facts.
If you don’t watch the news and if you’re not a witness to daily events, how in the hell can you come to any worthwhile conclusions or have any informed opinions about anything?
My guess is that if the news event is critical or can be seen in any way as a negative for “your side” you are automatically dismissing it as “political slant” or otherwise politically motivated regardless of the actual facts.
There are thousands of links (like on here) every day that can send you off in ANY DIRECTION for stories to confirm/refute any subject that interests you. You don't have to go to a news network.
Years ago I use to talk/meet with a lot of TV stations in the South, along with CNN, TBS, the old Nashville Network, etc. My main memory all these later was how the engineers were normal/nice people....the 'on air' people were almost 100% the most egotistical, narcissistic people I have ever been around.
Typical. I ask politely for one example of something from a local news source and you have nothing. You make some obtuse thread just to be an echo chamber for the usual subjects and then provide no evidence to back up your claim. I wish I could say I was surprised.Y
Yes...............This is a great example of YOU !
And those same links that send you off in any direction have the same staff and editorial oversite and resources to cover stories in depth that the NYT, Wash Post, LA Times, WSJ, CBS, NBC, ABC, ESPN, et al have? I doubt it very much. Hell, I could start a "news" website and fill it up with "facts" from whatever I choose.
A huge problem in America was/is the death of the local newspaper and TV and radio, where the journalists were much more connected to the local pulse. Too much on MSNBC, CNN and Fox is just a bunch of gas bags spewing the same BS over and over. Sean Hannity and Rachel Madow are two sides of the same coin, IMO.
And for the most part I know exactly what slant each of those links are going to deliver. I know who they will blame and who they will protect. That isn’t news, it’s propaganda.
I think we all know that. We know who each side is going to blame and protect.
Well, the First Amendment does have unintended and sometimes unfortunate consequences, but if I get some time, I will look up that case and see if it really is as bad as that snippet sounds.
To piggy back off the one who posted the link to allsides.com, here is a media bias chart that I find useful
https://www.allsides.com/media-bias/media-bias-chart
I get my news from the BBC because it's neutral but their opinion pieces can lean to the left.
I'm also big on fact checking everything, especially Facebook and other social media posts. In addition to Snopes I use the following site for fact checking
https://www.politifact.com/
It also has a "Promises Kept" meter for Trump and Obama
https://www.allsides.com/media-bias/media-bias-chart
I get my news from the BBC because it's neutral but their opinion pieces can lean to the left.
I'm also big on fact checking everything, especially Facebook and other social media posts. In addition to Snopes I use the following site for fact checking
https://www.politifact.com/
It also has a "Promises Kept" meter for Trump and Obama
Supposedly by the rules and laws this can't happen, but I'm sure Pelosi and her minion band of socialist will do there best to do this...if you watch Biden, unless he is just a puppet, there is no way that anyone can show me why someone can vote for him...you actually should feel sorry for the poor guy! His wife should put an end to the way he is embarrassing himself.
I'm surprised by the presidential candidates the Democrats have nominated the last 2 elections.
There are better candidates out there.
( I'm independent by the way)
I'm a Republican, but I'm astonished they don't run a guy like Manchin or is the party willing to sit back and let AOC and her gang take over the party?
I trust print media (AP, Reuters, most major daily papers) more than cable TV or "new" media. I watch local news sparingly. I also worked in journalism for 15 years and know the difference between news and opinion. I often see people on both sides use opinion pieces as "evidence" of being correct, when in reality they've presented one person's opinion on an issue.
National cable news is for stupid people who need to be spoonfed their ideology so they can feel a sense of community with fellow _____-wingers. If your main source of information is Fox News or MSNBC/CNN, please don't breed. Fox News created the infotainment model in 1996. It proved immensely successful. The left leaning stations like CNN and MSNBC copied the model soon after to lesser success because they split the market of left-leaning viewers.
Virgin neckbeards sitting in their basements with podcasting equipment and a YouTube channel are not journalists. They don't have the proper training and most are kooks/crazy people. AM talk radio/Political themed podcasts are not journalism. This is all opinion. If you use these mediums to get your news or form/reinforce your worldview, you're not bright.
The biggest problem I see is Americans of both political sides will believe ANYTHING that makes their "team" look good even if it's complete BS. These same people will not believe anything that makes their "team" look bad no matter how true it can be.
I don't see much bias in local news outside of the Louisville stations cover UL with a little more passion than UK. The national stories are compiled from that network's news wire and I don't know what kind of "agenda" reporting on local or state government, crime, and community events can push.
National cable news is for stupid people who need to be spoonfed their ideology so they can feel a sense of community with fellow _____-wingers. If your main source of information is Fox News or MSNBC/CNN, please don't breed. Fox News created the infotainment model in 1996. It proved immensely successful. The left leaning stations like CNN and MSNBC copied the model soon after to lesser success because they split the market of left-leaning viewers.
Virgin neckbeards sitting in their basements with podcasting equipment and a YouTube channel are not journalists. They don't have the proper training and most are kooks/crazy people. AM talk radio/Political themed podcasts are not journalism. This is all opinion. If you use these mediums to get your news or form/reinforce your worldview, you're not bright.
The biggest problem I see is Americans of both political sides will believe ANYTHING that makes their "team" look good even if it's complete BS. These same people will not believe anything that makes their "team" look bad no matter how true it can be.
I don't see much bias in local news outside of the Louisville stations cover UL with a little more passion than UK. The national stories are compiled from that network's news wire and I don't know what kind of "agenda" reporting on local or state government, crime, and community events can push.
Thomas Reuter donated millions to Clinton campaign.
Soros funds the Associated Press through his Open Society “non profit”
Nice try on “trust”.
Fox News is now ran by Murdoch’s kids who are staunch liberals. Regardless, Fox was trash before it was liberalized
Hackers have discovered some really weird media infrastructure being put together. Supposedly over 1k local news domains with weird fake content. Here's an example: https://kentuckianatimes.com/
They cover the entire country. The only clues about ownership lead to people in Fox news production. Now why would someone go to this much trouble???
They cover the entire country. The only clues about ownership lead to people in Fox news production. Now why would someone go to this much trouble???
I think the DNC has written Bernie off as someone they need not be overly concerned about. As much publicity as he gets, he is still an outlier.
I don't think Biden will be a factor in 2024.
I'll be surprised if he's the incumbent and he's not getting any younger.
Biden has said at one time he would only serve one term. It’s a mistake to make such a claim but given his age...he will turn 78 in November, he would be 82 when starting a second term...it’s a reasonable speculation.
Biden has said at one time he would only serve one term. It’s a mistake to make such a claim but given his age...he will turn 78 in November, he would be 82 when starting a second term...it’s a reasonable speculation.
It makes no difference who the Democrats run (FWIW, it will be Biden plus a woman from a needed swing state)
For the vast majority, the election will be all about Trump. You either will vote for him or vote against him (as opposed to voting in favor of the other candidate). There are millions of voters who love him and just as many if not more who loathe him.
For the vast majority, the election will be all about Trump. You either will vote for him or vote against him (as opposed to voting in favor of the other candidate). There are millions of voters who love him and just as many if not more who loathe him.
Unless you still loathe him because he beat her highness...the man has done a fantastic job. Thank GOD she didn't win. With she and her husband in China's back pocket no telling how bad this would be.
It’s a good question - where, then, do you get your information? If you believe as I and many others do, that they are all biased, you don’t have much choice. Fox and a handful of other less significant outlets are right, the vast majority are left. I for one don’t think it’s any more responsible to say “well, I need to get my news from somewhere, even if biased” than it is to simply ignore it all.
For the average person, news media right now largely means CNN, Fox and MSNBC. They are undeniably biased, so that’s why if you say you don’t see bias in media, some folks think you’re crazy .org not paying attention. Read a column just now, the guy is arguing there’s a market for something like straight news, and since no one watches CNN, it should be the one to change course. Fox has 13 of the 15 highest rated cable shows. MSNBC had one show at number 6. CNNs top rated show is number 22.....
Someone above says there’s no agenda, they’re just giving folks what they want. I submit that person hasn’t watched CNN lately, and hasn’t seen it’s ratings.
For the average person, news media right now largely means CNN, Fox and MSNBC. They are undeniably biased, so that’s why if you say you don’t see bias in media, some folks think you’re crazy .org not paying attention. Read a column just now, the guy is arguing there’s a market for something like straight news, and since no one watches CNN, it should be the one to change course. Fox has 13 of the 15 highest rated cable shows. MSNBC had one show at number 6. CNNs top rated show is number 22.....
Someone above says there’s no agenda, they’re just giving folks what they want. I submit that person hasn’t watched CNN lately, and hasn’t seen it’s ratings.