MAIS rumors..
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Big D said:
This has already happened and the classifications have already been announced. For football, UCS will play in Region 4 1A with:
Bogue Chitto
Dexter
Mt. Olive
Cathedral
Salem
St. Aloysius
Hinds AHS
Stringer
Resurrection
Puckett is 2A
Edit to add ]http://www.misshsaa.com/Class_2011.pdf[/url]
Are they going fully public?
I found out St. Joseph plays in the MHSAA too, but they are still private. They do not receive funding of from the government.
Can someone explain why this is happening? Is this strictly athletics related?
I found out St. Joseph plays in the MHSAA too, but they are still private. They do not receive funding of from the government.
Can someone explain why this is happening? Is this strictly athletics related?
I've heard the same as you have re: AAA and will add that I've heard that Pillow will be in AAA-I and Hillcrest will be in AAA-II, replacing Oak Forest which willdrop down toAA. Talk of what schoolswill bein MAIS AA can be found in this MissSportsTalk thread.
why would Jackson Prep move up, hasntJackson Academywon two straightstate championships in football, seems like prep would need to be the best in theircurrent group first, i think eitherof the Jackson teams would be really good in public though615dawg said:
...to gain more students and position themselves as being not just another academy. Considering UCS is/will be one of the smallest schools in the MHSAA, they have lots of room to grow.</p>
They are attempting to catch Mississippi up with the rest of the nation and play with the public schools.
A few months ago, I posted that a heavy rumor was forming that the SACS accredited MAIS schools would be invited to MHSAA. That has happened.
UCS is the first to move, Others have decided that they will give the MAIS one more cycle (two years). Jackson Prep is rumored to be moving over mid-cycle (2012-13 athletic season).
If Prep moves, you will see 15-20 schools move in 2013-14. Two schools that will stay with the MAIS to the bitter end are MRA and Jackson Academy, at least with current leadership.
Prep will be 4A and will have a chance to be competitive from the get go.
ETA: The hangup with Prep not moving with this cycle was with girls' sports. They thought they needed one more year to prepare because the competition jump is supposedly bigger there than it is in football and other boys' sports.
A few months ago, I posted that a heavy rumor was forming that the SACS accredited MAIS schools would be invited to MHSAA. That has happened.
UCS is the first to move, Others have decided that they will give the MAIS one more cycle (two years). Jackson Prep is rumored to be moving over mid-cycle (2012-13 athletic season).
If Prep moves, you will see 15-20 schools move in 2013-14. Two schools that will stay with the MAIS to the bitter end are MRA and Jackson Academy, at least with current leadership.
Prep will be 4A and will have a chance to be competitive from the get go.
ETA: The hangup with Prep not moving with this cycle was with girls' sports. They thought they needed one more year to prepare because the competition jump is supposedly bigger there than it is in football and other boys' sports.
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I was wondering when MS would follow suit with TN on the private/public athletic contests.
Is Pillow large enough to be 3A?
Ah, good ole Phuckett. Miss hearing about that town.
Is Pillow large enough to be 3A?
Ah, good ole Phuckett. Miss hearing about that town.
And considering their location and number of smaller schools in NE Mississippi, it was a good move for them in my opinion.</p>
that are in the districts with some of these private schools complain about the private schools being able to get players from anywhere? I remember years ago that the teams that played again Piney Woods' basketball team were complaining about it.
Remember that last year, Jackson Prep beat St. Stanislaus and Dylan Favre, who went on to win the 4A championship. In past years they have beaten good Pearl and Newton teams, and lost to them as well.
Jackson Prep would be 4A in the MHSAA and while they would up their level of competition, would probably be state championship quality in baseball right away, and pretty close in football right from the get go.
Here are the MAIS schools that are rumored to be in their last cycle with the MAIS
Jackson Prep
Hillcrest
Washington
Pillow
Indianola
Magnolia Heights
Hillcrest
Oak Hill
Adams County Christian
East Rankin
Lamar School
Jackson Academy, MRA and Presbyterian Christian will not consider a move unless the MAIS dies (See Tuscaloosa Academy, Alabama, one of the largest private schools in the state that still plays in the now irrelevant AISA since the moves started happening in 1993). I have been told that Tri-County is also not interested. Others have not let their feelings be known.
UCS has a chance to really grow from this. They have 91 students in one of the richest areas of Mississippi. They are financially strapped and this move allows them something that no non-parochial private school in Jackson can say for at least one more year.
Jackson Prep would be 4A in the MHSAA and while they would up their level of competition, would probably be state championship quality in baseball right away, and pretty close in football right from the get go.
Here are the MAIS schools that are rumored to be in their last cycle with the MAIS
Jackson Prep
Hillcrest
Washington
Pillow
Indianola
Magnolia Heights
Hillcrest
Oak Hill
Adams County Christian
East Rankin
Lamar School
Jackson Academy, MRA and Presbyterian Christian will not consider a move unless the MAIS dies (See Tuscaloosa Academy, Alabama, one of the largest private schools in the state that still plays in the now irrelevant AISA since the moves started happening in 1993). I have been told that Tri-County is also not interested. Others have not let their feelings be known.
UCS has a chance to really grow from this. They have 91 students in one of the richest areas of Mississippi. They are financially strapped and this move allows them something that no non-parochial private school in Jackson can say for at least one more year.
Would have made a lot more sense for them to move in 2011 or 2013. Moving in 2012 would create a scheduling nightmare. I remember Ridgeland first opened in the middle of a cycle. They had to scratch around for games from tiny Delta schools and out of state schools that first year and didn't get assigned to a division until the next year.
teams that are in the same district.
For instance, UCS can offer a scholarship to someone that would normally go to Northwest Rankin, but not someone who would go to Pelahatchie. However, if someone from Pelahatchie were established at UCS, it does not matter.
Jackson Prep would be barred from Simpson County though - no more scholarships to Barlow kids.
For instance, UCS can offer a scholarship to someone that would normally go to Northwest Rankin, but not someone who would go to Pelahatchie. However, if someone from Pelahatchie were established at UCS, it does not matter.
Jackson Prep would be barred from Simpson County though - no more scholarships to Barlow kids.
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It seems like MRA could set itself up well if they advertised themselves as an alternative Madison school that still plays good schools in sports.
...to MAIS largely because Mississippi was the only state whose independent schools association didn't include the word 'independent.' The same folks are still in charge.
Forest won the 3A title 10-8 thanks to a four yard TD drive. Prep lost to 4A Pearl this year, Pearl got hammered in the first round of the playoffs this year.
Prep did beat St. Stans last year, they also lost to Pearl which didn't make the 4A playoffs.
There is a HUGE difference in playing tough games every week and in playing one or two tough games a year.
Prep did beat St. Stans last year, they also lost to Pearl which didn't make the 4A playoffs.
There is a HUGE difference in playing tough games every week and in playing one or two tough games a year.
UCS is doing this due to Athletics, specifically football. A lot of the MAIS A schools are hurting and UCS has had at least 1 football game / year for the last several years cancelled due to schools dropping to 8 Man football or just pulling out of the games to keep from traveling. Many of their away games are really far away from the school. UCS should be okay in the MHSAA District in football and could be a power in baseball. Basketball may have issues.Big D said:
Correct. Pearl did not make the 4A playoffs. They made the 5A playoffs.Rutherford B Hays said:
Also, by ramping up their accreditation requirements to public school standards, UCS has made themselves eligible for MUCH more grant money. This is the reason that I've been told caused the move.
Enrollment is not anywhere close to what they thought it would be 10+ years into that move from the old Brandon Academy location. They made that move to position themselves to eventually compete with JA, Prep, MRA and, at the time, Hillcrest. Their enrollment is still not close to any of those 4 schools and for only 1 cycle did they move as high as AA. The notes on that campus are kicking the schools arse so this grant money is supposed to help.
When Prep moves to the MHSAA, Triplett's bunch is sunk for sure. Their gate for all championships will be walking out the door.
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that play tough games every game either, though. I know Madison Central has their share of Murrah's, and South Panola has their share of Horn Lake's, and Meridian their share of West Lauderdale's.
I definately think that Prep playing these public schools is a litmus test for how they would fare in the MHSAA. Look at how they scheduled- a good 5A school in Pearl, some good 3A schools, a school that is very similar to Prep in St. Stanislaus. When they scheduled these games, they probably had no idea what would happen.
I think Prep's long range plan is probably to be able to legitimately compete with some of the local 6A teams- such as Madison Central and Northwest Rankin. Now that public and private schools are eligible to play each other, Prep can still retain their rivalry with JA and whoever else.
Fair or not, MAIS schools get a bad rap from a lot of people. If Prep goes to the MHSAA, they can say that they play in the league that is considered the best by popular opinion. This is going to allow them to potentially attract good players from around the Metro area- they have students from Rankin, Hinds, and Madison County. If their top competitor JA stays in the MAIS, Prep will pass them completely unless JA decides to join the MHSAA as well- which is what I would think would happen.
You make good points, and I am not trashing Prep. However, for Pearl (or NW Rankin, or Brandon) the county rivalry is much bigger than playing Prep. Then these schools must get ramped up for division games.
Is Murrah weak? Absolutely. But I'd still say the dregs of public school are stronger than the dregs on MAIS ball. Therefore, Prep really only has JA (maybe throw in one other school) to get upfor to play. Pearl will have to get up for the NW Rankin,Brandon, then the best teams of their division play.
So wherePearl isa very important game to Prep on the schedule. Prep, bynecessity, is way down Pearl's list.
BTW,I have zero connection withPearl.
Pearl just got placed in the same division with West Jones, Wayne County and Brookhaven.
Doanyone think that those schools are the same competition level as Prep's big division games of Parklane, Copiah and East Rankin? Remember JA is not in Prep's division.</p>
Is Murrah weak? Absolutely. But I'd still say the dregs of public school are stronger than the dregs on MAIS ball. Therefore, Prep really only has JA (maybe throw in one other school) to get upfor to play. Pearl will have to get up for the NW Rankin,Brandon, then the best teams of their division play.
So wherePearl isa very important game to Prep on the schedule. Prep, bynecessity, is way down Pearl's list.
BTW,I have zero connection withPearl.
Pearl just got placed in the same division with West Jones, Wayne County and Brookhaven.
Doanyone think that those schools are the same competition level as Prep's big division games of Parklane, Copiah and East Rankin? Remember JA is not in Prep's division.</p>
UCS would have stayed in MAIS. The Flames will be in the largest geographical 1A region in MHSAA-- which is essentially the southern half of the state going from the Gulf Coast to a few miles north of I-20. That being said, the MHSAA should help out with their basketball travel. Pelahatchie will be a good county rival. MSD and Sebastopol are in adjacent counties. Durant and McAdams are the two farthest but still closer than Russell Christian.
You make a good point though with 8-man teams. Of the 14 schools that have declared that they will be playing 8-man in the next MAIS reclassification cycle, four are in the Jackson area (Clinton Christian, Mt. Salus, REBUL, and Veritas) and three of them have been in the same football district as UCS.
You make a good point though with 8-man teams. Of the 14 schools that have declared that they will be playing 8-man in the next MAIS reclassification cycle, four are in the Jackson area (Clinton Christian, Mt. Salus, REBUL, and Veritas) and three of them have been in the same football district as UCS.
<font face="verdana, arial" size="2">A person on a primarily MAIS board has been keeping track of how the schools do when they compete against each other in basketball. As of December 1, it's MAIS boys over MHSAA 13-8 and MAIS girls over MHSAA 15-7. For the most part, it appears that the basketball games have been between similarly sized schools.
If I recall correctly, MAIS boys also won the 'series' against MHSAA in the 2009-10 season. MHSAA girls, I believe, won more games that season.
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If I recall correctly, MAIS boys also won the 'series' against MHSAA in the 2009-10 season. MHSAA girls, I believe, won more games that season.
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no public school wants to lose to a private school. That's like Ole Miss losing to Jacksonville St. Plus Prep has the longest history of winning in the Private schools and to beat the one of the elites is pretty good. One other thing Pearl hasn't forgotten that 50 to nothing *** whipping. I think Prep is leading in that Pearl series.