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Perd Hapley

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Now that he’s got over 50 MLB plate appearances under his belt, I thought it would be good to show Jake’s numbers compared to the rest of the Rays (and, in some cases, rest of MLB), just to see how he’s performing.

The TLDR version - he’s doing way more than enough at the plate, on the basepaths, and in the field to stay up in the show, as of right now, and is excelling or holding his own in every area except slugging % (which his career history shows can and likely will get better).

I always thought that if given a shot, Jake could definitely be a .275-.300 hitter in MLB, and a .700-.750 OPS player at the MLB level as well. Guys that can do that year over year and against LHP and RHP aren’t necessarily All-Stars, but they absolutely do play every day.

Now for the stats:

1) OPS (most important “bottom line” offensive stat)

Rays as a team are 6th in all of MLB in OPS at .765. Jake’s OPS is .741. Not much to complain about here, his OPS is right in the neighborhood of the team as a whole, and he’s doing that for what has been one of the better MLB hitting teams in the early going.

2) Batting average

Rays as a team are 3rd in MLB with a .272 average. Jake is s very big part of that….hitting .327. That’s 3rd on the team of guys that have at least 40 AB’s. This is a known strength for him obviously….but so far its carrying over to the big stage just as it did at every other level that he advanced.

3) On base percentage

Rays as a team are 6th in MLB with a .336 team OBP. Jake is even better at .353. 4th on the team out of guys with at least 40 AB’s. Holding his own here.

4) Slugging percentage

Rays are 7th in MLB with a .429 team SLG %. Jake is at .388. This is his weakest area overall. However, there’s a lot to indicate that he can improve here, and it doesn’t involve him hitting a bunch of HR’s, either. Just needs to hit a few more doubles, and a triple or HR here and there. In 4 years of SEC play, he slugged .457. In 2 years of AA ball, he slugged .440. In 3 years of AAA ball, he slugged .438. That’s about as consistent as it gets over 8 years of advancing through different tiers of high level baseball. Everything else he does has translated to MLB so far. I’d expect him to settle in at a SLG % of sonewhere in the .410-.430 range over a long enough period of time. And he’s still ahead of or right in line with 3 or 4 other regulars for the Rays even now.

5) K rate

Rays as a team do not strike out a ton. I didn’t check where they rank in MLB in K rate, but overall they have a 21.2% K rate as a team. Jake is killing it here so far….only 9.8% K rate. So he’s holding his own, and doing what he’s always done here….continuously putting pressure on the pitcher and defense.

6) BB rate

Rays don’t walk a ton as a team either. 8.6% team BB rate. Again, not sure where that ranks in MLB. Jake’s even lower at 3.92% here. Don’t think anyone expects the tiger to change his stripes on this one. He’s got a unique approach that works for him, and that involves him putting the ball in play whenever he can. At least he’s in an organization that suits his strengths.

7) Stolen bases

Perhaps the most impressive stat of all. Rays are tied for 5th in MLB with 23 SB’s. Jake is leading the team and is tied for 2nd in all of MLB with 7 stolen bases, and he has yet to be thrown out. This is a big deal. Was not really a strength of his at MSU even though he always had the speed. But it’s very clear that this is an area where he’s worked hard to improve his game over the years as far as getting better leads / jumps, and picking up on the pitcher’s motion to the plate. If he is to become a full time fixture in MLB, this element of his game might be the catalyst.

8) Advanced Stats - Runs Created and Wins Above Replacement

Jake is 4th overall on the Rays in Runs Created, and 3rd overall in RC/27 amongst guys with at least 40 AB’s.

Jake is tied with the two shortstops Walls and Caballero with a WAR of 0.5 - they are in a 3-way tie for 3rd on the team.

He’s doing very well in both of these areas.
 

She Mate Me

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Glad to see him getting some hits again lately. I was afraid he was sinking into a funk that might get him sent down.

The stolen bases is a pleasant surprise and I'm not sure if there's a new stat that encompasses what that threat is worth vs players who are no threat to steal. It's almost like it should be added to OPS since it results in extra bases.
 
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Faustdog

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I believe I've watched every one of his at bats since his call up, and he's just such a spark plug. He plays with the same fire now that he did at MSU. Love the pressure he puts on defenses.

He did bobble a ball in the outfield last night that took away any chance there would have been to throw out a runner at home. I believe that was uncharacteristic of him.

He has been hitting a ton of ground balls. He's had a bunch of infield hits, seeing eye singles, etc., which probably isn't their preference.

I say all that to say that it's been really exciting to watch him play again. But with the premium on power and three outfielders currently on the IL, you've got to think he'll be sent back down when one or two of the regular outfielders are healthy.
 

ZombieKissinger

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Yeah, I have watched every Rays game this year, and he’s doing well. He hit a rough-ish spot after his 2nd and 3rd game where he went 1-4 for a few then hitless for a few, but his last couple have been good. A ton of his hits have been infield singles, which I think will persist, but I’d also expect him to get some doubles by hitting into the outfield. He got a double yesterday by bouncing the ball off third base.

while you don’t get the same RBI impact, the fact that he’s stealing so well is huge because it’s almost like getting a double. He also scored from first on a single a couple nights ago and outran a double play. People are noticing how hard he plays, and he’s done well in the field.
 
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ZombieKissinger

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Love Jake but on #6 I always wondered in college why any pitcher ever threw him a strike because he will pretty much swing at anything.
He’s still aggressive but actually has reined it in some. I think they have him watching some first pitches now, which he wasn’t doing at the beginning of the season. He’s done really well with 2 strike hitting, fouling off balls, etc thus far
 
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Perd Hapley

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Love Jake but on #6 I always wondered in college why any pitcher ever threw him a strike because he will pretty much swing at anything.
He doesn’t swing at bad pitches though. He’s never been a guy to chase stuff way out of the zone, and the stuff that just off the corners - he can still hit. His game has always been that he can hit a ground ball or line drive on any pitch that’s anywhere close to the zone. Not a lot of guys left anymore that can do that. That makes it difficult for pitchers, because he’s doing the exact opposite of what pretty much every other hitter in the game today is doing. It’s difficult to invert your approach as a pitcher for just one player. Everyone else is trying to take anything that’s close….make the pitcher throw something you can swing hard at, and every swing is for the fences.
 

jethreauxdawg

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Now that he’s got over 50 MLB plate appearances under his belt, I thought it would be good to show Jake’s numbers compared to the rest of the Rays (and, in some cases, rest of MLB), just to see how he’s performing.

The TLDR version - he’s doing way more than enough at the plate, on the basepaths, and in the field to stay up in the show, as of right now, and is excelling or holding his own in every area except slugging % (which his career history shows can and likely will get better).

I always thought that if given a shot, Jake could definitely be a .275-.300 hitter in MLB, and a .700-.750 OPS player at the MLB level as well. Guys that can do that year over year and against LHP and RHP aren’t necessarily All-Stars, but they absolutely do play every day.

Now for the stats:

1) OPS (most important “bottom line” offensive stat)

Rays as a team are 6th in all of MLB in OPS at .765. Jake’s OPS is .741. Not much to complain about here, his OPS is right in the neighborhood of the team as a whole, and he’s doing that for what has been one of the better MLB hitting teams in the early going.

2) Batting average

Rays as a team are 3rd in MLB with a .272 average. Jake is s very big part of that….hitting .327. That’s 3rd on the team of guys that have at least 40 AB’s. This is a known strength for him obviously….but so far its carrying over to the big stage just as it did at every other level that he advanced.

3) On base percentage

Rays as a team are 6th in MLB with a .336 team OBP. Jake is even better at .353. 4th on the team out of guys with at least 40 AB’s. Holding his own here.

4) Slugging percentage

Rays are 7th in MLB with a .429 team SLG %. Jake is at .388. This is his weakest area overall. However, there’s a lot to indicate that he can improve here, and it doesn’t involve him hitting a bunch of HR’s, either. Just needs to hit a few more doubles, and a triple or HR here and there. In 4 years of SEC play, he slugged .457. In 2 years of AA ball, he slugged .440. In 3 years of AAA ball, he slugged .438. That’s about as consistent as it gets over 8 years of advancing through different tiers of high level baseball. Everything else he does has translated to MLB so far. I’d expect him to settle in at a SLG % of sonewhere in the .410-.430 range over a long enough period of time. And he’s still ahead of or right in line with 3 or 4 other regulars for the Rays even now.

5) K rate

Rays as a team do not strike out a ton. I didn’t check where they rank in MLB in K rate, but overall they have a 21.2% K rate as a team. Jake is killing it here so far….only 9.8% K rate. So he’s holding his own, and doing what he’s always done here….continuously putting pressure on the pitcher and defense.

6) BB rate

Rays don’t walk a ton as a team either. 8.6% team BB rate. Again, not sure where that ranks in MLB. Jake’s even lower at 3.92% here. Don’t think anyone expects the tiger to change his stripes on this one. He’s got a unique approach that works for him, and that involves him putting the ball in play whenever he can. At least he’s in an organization that suits his strengths.

7) Stolen bases

Perhaps the most impressive stat of all. Rays are tied for 5th in MLB with 23 SB’s. Jake is leading the team and is tied for 2nd in all of MLB with 7 stolen bases, and he has yet to be thrown out. This is a big deal. Was not really a strength of his at MSU even though he always had the speed. But it’s very clear that this is an area where he’s worked hard to improve his game over the years as far as getting better leads / jumps, and picking up on the pitcher’s motion to the plate. If he is to become a full time fixture in MLB, this element of his game might be the catalyst.

8) Advanced Stats - Runs Created and Wins Above Replacement

Jake is 4th overall on the Rays in Runs Created, and 3rd overall in RC/27 amongst guys with at least 40 AB’s.

Jake is tied with the two shortstops Walls and Caballero with a WAR of 0.5 - they are in a 3-way tie for 3rd on the team.

He’s doing very well in both of these areas.
Would his slugging % change much if 7 singles were counted as doubles due to his stolen bases? I know that’s not technically hitting a double.
 

Perd Hapley

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But with the premium on power
and three outfielders currently on the IL
The thing is, these two statements don’t really jive with each other.

Lowe definitely has a spot in the OF when he finally gets healthy (which may be awhile).

But the other two?

Jonny DeLuca is a fringe MLB player to begin with. He’s a good defensive CF, but has just 8 HR’s in 140 MLB games….over 3 years. Career MLB slugging % of .353. Career OPS of .640 and career OPS+ of 84 (below average for his position. Been in and out of minors each of the past 3 seasons.

Richie Palacios is the same story. He has 11 HR’s in 178 career games (again over 3 years). Career slugging % of .350. Career OPS of .676 and OPS+ of 93 (again, below average for his position).

I keep saying this, but there’s no basis at all for using lack of power or lack of high slugging % as basis for demotion, when those guys are the other 2 options.

you've got to think he'll be sent back down when one or two of the regular outfielders are healthy.

Even with his seeing eye singles and infield hits, Jake’s slugging .388 right now. Better than both of those guys over their careers up to this point. OPS better as well. Its of course a small sample size, and DeLuca was off to a decent start before getting hurt. But if Jake keeps doing what he’s doing for long enough, he will absolutely stay up.
 
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The thing is, these two statements don’t really jive with each other.

Lowe definitely has a spot in the OF when he finally gets healthy (which may be awhile).

But the other two?

Jonny DeLuca is a fringe MLB player to begin with. He’s a good defensive CF, but has just 8 HR’s in 140 MLB games….over 3 years. Career MLB slugging % of .353. Career OPS of .640 and career OPS+ of 84 (below average for his position. Been in and out of minors each of the past 3 seasons.

Richie Palacios is the same story. He has 11 HR’s in 178 career games (again over 3 years). Career slugging % of .350. Career OPS of .676 and OPS+ of 93 (again, below average for his position).

I keep saying this, but there’s no basis at all for using lack of power or lack of high slugging % as basis for demotion, when those guys are the other 2 options.



Even with his seeing eye singles and infield hits, Jake’s slugging .388 right now. Better than both of those guys over their careers up to this point. OPS better as well. Its of course a small sample size, and DeLuca was off to a decent start before getting hurt. But if Jake keeps doing what he’s doing for long enough, he will absolutely stay up.

I sincerely hope that you're right and I'm wrong.
 

Perd Hapley

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Would his slugging % change much if 7 singles were counted as doubles due to his stolen bases? I know that’s not technically hitting a double.
I mean yeah, you’d add 7 to the total bases calculation of the slugging %. Instead of 19 TB in 49 AB’s, he’d have 26, and his slugging % would go from .388 to .530.

The better question would be how he’d stack up with MLB as a whole if you applied that bump-up to everyone? Not sure what that would look like, though. Kind of goes against the principle of slugging % though, as the intent for that is to illustrate what you do when you are standing in the batters box. But I certainly agree that there should be some way to capture stolen basis into a player’s overall offensive profile.
 
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I do wonder if the other guys get healthy if they send him down. I went to the game on Sunday and he is becoming a fan favorite.

I think people actually appreciate his old school approach.
He also plays every position in the outfield well. He robbed a Homer the other day and stole a double from Matt Olson on Sunday.
 

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Shame that he’s only a few PA’s short of eligibility for batting awards/rankings. Really hard to catch up to the requisite 3.1 PA
 

Perd Hapley

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I sincerely hope that you're right and I'm wrong.
Ha, me too. And to be clear, I don’t see it as impossible for him to get sent back to AAA by any means. I just don’t think the reasons for it would be that they need more power / slugging, because those options aren’t things that are available to them anyway.

In total there are 4 position player injuries they are dealing with. The three OF’s, and Ha Seong Kim - who is the highest paid player on the roster. When Kim returns, they definitely will send back down that IF they just called up - Coco Montes. Palacios may be the next guy healthy. He’s in the minors right now actually on rehab stint. He plays a little IF too, so they may send Curtis Mead back to AAA when he comes back. Mead has really struggled. Next guy back is going to be DeLuca. That leaves them with a decision on sending Mangum back down, or sending another IF like Taylor Walls or Jose Caballero, or Palacios. Then finally when Lowe returns, and if everyone else is healthy, you may see Jake return to AAA.

Who knows though. Other injuries or trades or any number of other things may happen moving forward.
 

jethreauxdawg

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The Rays just called up Chandler Simpson. An outfielder who led the minor leagues with a .355 average last year. He also stole 104 bases. He was a second round draft pick in 2022.
The Rays are moving RHP Faedo tot he 60 day IL to make room for Simpson.


 

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baseball hail state GIF by Mississippi State Athletics
 

Perd Hapley

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In the despondent state of things with MSU baseball, I’m bumping this thread to remind us all of the simpler times.

In the past 6 games against the Yankees and Red Sox, Jake has 8 hits, 3 runs, 2 walks, another stolen base, and an RBI.

OPS of .746 is 4th amongst Rays regulars

WAR of 0.5 is tied for 3rd amongst Rays regulars.

8 stolen bases leaves him alone in 2nd in all of MLB

Batting Average of .328 is 3rd amongst Rays regulars.

OBP of .369 is also 3rd.

ETA: In other news, Rays OF Richie Palacios, who just returned from a broken finger that cost him the first 15-16 games or so, is already back on the IL and expected to miss 4-6 weeks with a knee sprain. Josh Lowe is not expected back for at least 5 more weeks. Jonny DeLuca (who doesn’t have a strong offensive profile) is also a few weeks away from returning. No roster crunch coming any time soon for the Rays OF.
 
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