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Dak and Mangum. Don’t get much better than that. Brent Rooker spoke at my kids school a few weeks ago. He was als just as awesome. Great human being. Took the time to speak to my 11 year old son about his baseball for a good 5 minutes. Brent is a funny guy.

Rooker is 17'n hilarious and a really good dude. He's got a future in the booth if he wants it.
 

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The Rays as an entire team have only 3 HR’s in 5 games, and their projected starting outfield in 2025 only hit 38 HR’s combined in all of 2024. It goes a lot deeper than the HR thing. First of all, he needed to land in the right organization to get a shot, and he did.

Beyond that, it’s pretty simple, really. The answer is that it didn’t really take him that long. About 4 actual baseball years. On average it takes most MLB players 3-6 years in the minors before they make it. College players tend to fall more on the lower end of that spectrum, but even still he’s right at the average. Adam Frazier is someone I’ve compared him to regularly. It took Frazier about 3 years to make it. People keep forgetting that Jake’s last year at MSU was in 2019, which ended in Omaha in late June. He went straight from there to A ball, battled some injuries and got less than half of a minor league season in 2019. 2020, there was no minor league season for anybody. 2021 - he raked in AA. 2022-2024 he raked in AAA. Now, he’s raking in MLB, through 3 games at least.

People see how old he is and assume he’s just been buried in the minors forever. He really hasn’t. Was 19 when he got to MSU, stayed a 4th year because he wanted to, then had a year off for COVID. Take those extra 3 years out where nothing was really happening developmentally for him, and he’s just another 26 year old just breaking in…which is the typical age that most guys get the first call up.
 
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The Rays as an entire team have only 3 HR’s in 5 games, and their projected starting outfield in 2025 only hit 38 HR’s combined in all of 2024. It goes a lot deeper than the HR thing. First of all, he needed to land in the right organization to get a shot, and he did.

Beyond that, it’s pretty simple, really. The answer is that it didn’t really take him that long. About 4 actual baseball years. On average it takes most MLB players 3-6 years in the minors before they make it. College players tend to fall more on the lower end of that spectrum, but even still he’s right at the average. Adam Frazier is someone I’ve compared him to regularly. It took Frazier about 3 years to make it. People keep forgetting that Jake’s last year at MSU was in 2019, which ended in Omaha in late June. He went straight from there to A ball, battled some injuries and got less than half of a minor league season in 2019. 2020, there was no minor league season for anybody. 2021 - he raked in AA. 2022-2024 he raked in AAA. Now, he’s raking in MLB, through 3 games at least.

People see how old he is and assume he’s just been buried in the minors forever. He really hasn’t. Was 19 when he got to MSU, stayed a 4th year because he wanted to, then had a year off for COVID. Take those extra 3 years out where nothing was really happening developmentally for him, and he’s just another 26 year old just breaking in…which is the typical age that most guys get the first call up.
Yet still, HRs
 

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Will a small market team have trouble sending a guy down who’s quickly becoming a fan favorite, is leading the team in a bunch of hitting categories and getting the headlines?

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I think he’ll stay up if he keeps performing. Curtis Mead is quickly being exposed. Spring training for him was a fluke, and he’s reverting back to the same limited offensive player he’s always been. I think he’s a candidate for being sent down when Josh Lowe or Richie Palacios returns (whichever happens first). Mangum and Misner are both hitting well. Both should stay up. Walls will head back down when Kim returns. Who gets sent down when both Lowe and Palacios are back is anyone’s guess.
 

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Yet still, HRs
So, if its HR’s, what big HR hitters are they going to keep over him? Richie Palacios and his 11 HR’s in 178 career MLB games? Or how about Jonny DeLuca and his 8 HR’s in 135 MLB games? Kamren Misner and his 1 career MLB home run?

Lowe and Morel are the only outfielders on the entire 40 man roster with capability to even hit 20 HR’s. And neither of those guys is going to hit 30. Morel’s 162 game average is 26, Lowe’s is 18.

Also worth noting that they have benched both Morel and DeLuca in recent days to let Jake and Misner both start.
 

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So, if its HR’s, what big HR hitters are they going to keep over him? Richie Palacios and his 11 HR’s in 178 career MLB games? Or how about Jonny DeLuca and his 8 HR’s in 135 MLB games? Kamren Misner and his 1 career MLB home run?

Lowe and Morel are the only outfielders on the entire 40 man roster with capability to even hit 20 HR’s. And neither of those guys is going to hit 30. Morel’s 162 game average is 26, Lowe’s is 18.

Also worth noting that they have benched both Morel and DeLuca in recent days to let Jake and Misner both start.
I didn't say he should be demoted, I'm pointing out the stupidity in why he took so long in getting called up.
 

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Beyond that, it’s pretty simple, really. The answer is that it didn’t really take him that long. About 4 actual baseball years. On average it takes most MLB players 3-6 years in the minors before they make it. College players tend to fall more on the lower end of that spectrum, but even still he’s right at the average. Adam Frazier is someone I’ve compared him to regularly. It took Frazier about 3 years to make it. People keep forgetting that Jake’s last year at MSU was in 2019, which ended in Omaha in late June. He went straight from there to A ball, battled some injuries and got less than half of a minor league season in 2019. 2020, there was no minor league season for anybody. 2021 - he raked in AA. 2022-2024 he raked in AAA. Now, he’s raking in MLB, through 3 games at least.

People see how old he is and assume he’s just been buried in the minors forever. He really hasn’t. Was 19 when he got to MSU, stayed a 4th year because he wanted to, then had a year off for COVID. Take those extra 3 years out where nothing was really happening developmentally for him, and he’s just another 26 year old just breaking in…which is the typical age that most guys get the first call up.
My problem with all this is that it was obvious by at least spring training 2024 that he deserved a shot. What's happening now should've happened last year, and the Rays should be having a come-to-Jesus moment with whomever never called him up last year when multiple OFers on the active roster were struggling.
Hopefully he becomes a case study to help reverse the focus on HRs.
 
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I didn't say he should be demoted, I'm pointing out the stupidity in why he took so long in getting called up.
I hear the HR argument but as a Rangers fan I've had to watch Leody Taveras start in CF for years. He's got 38 career HRs and a .239 career batting average, 38 stolen bases and a .369 career slug for a team that won the '23 World Series and is projected to contend again this year. Oh, and he's 26. Both are switch hitters and Mangum on the Rangers would be incredible with their talent and clubhouse vets. We'd take him in a second!
 
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