Leading the entire MLB in batting average (of all players with more than 5 ABs).
Mangum
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A couple of guys saw me recording his AB's on Monday night and asked me about him. Off the cuff I said...
He'll rarely strike out but he won't walk. He'll hit a bunch of doubles but will never homer. In the field he'll do whatever it takes to record an out. Watching him play is pretty much the most fun you can have at a baseball game.
He'll rarely strike out but he won't walk. He'll hit a bunch of doubles but will never homer. In the field he'll do whatever it takes to record an out. Watching him play is pretty much the most fun you can have at a baseball game.
It makes you wonder what they would do with Wade Boggs. Great hitters who spray the ball all over the park but don’t hit Home runs. bastardization of the game.
The world sure needed one. Glad he may be the guy.
How awesome would it be if Jake himself ushers in the correction to the norm that many of us want to see in MLB?
Mangum has always reminded me of Ichiro...a get on base machine, with really good defense, fast wheels, STRONG work ethic, and smart.
It's a real indictment of modern baseball that nobody in MLB could see what is obvious now. He's a 17'n player and can really hit, even if he doesn't hit it out often.
Oh, and you won't have a better guy in your dugout to be a leader among the players.
It's so stupid it took him this long and he had to break the door down and throw it on the roof while 22 year olds who throw like pre glasses Ricky Vaughan get a callup for taking a solid she ite.
I know you aren’t. I’m just saying the HR argument doesn’t make much sense as a reason to not promote him, because the Rays don’t have hardly any of those guys in their organization anyways. Would have to be something else.
In reality, the Rays only kept him in the minors for only 4-5 months of actual baseball time before bumping him up. He was hurt for a good portion of the early MLB season last year, and the Rays were largely out of contention by the time he really got rolling in August / September last year. They also still had Siri on the roster last year clogging things up. Not a lot of incentive to bump him up late in 2024 and start his clock for little club benefit. They seem to have handled him pretty fairly.
If anything, you need to look to the Mets and Marlins and see why they didn’t give him a shot. He was tearing it up in AAA for both of those organizations, too.
Wade Boggs had a career OPS of .858 (today’s MLB average is about .750). Led all of MLB in OPS in 1987 and 1988. Had an OPS+ of greater than 150 five times, and a career OPS+ of 133.
Tony Gwynn’s career OPS / OPS+ numbers were almost identical.
Both would absolutely be playing every day even in today’s MLB, in spite of the analytics / long ball narrative. OPS still is the gold standard for offensive efficiency and productivity these days…..even moreso than HR’s.
Think the video cut short right before announcers said that but what a compliment to Jake!
You're probably right. But Wade Boggs and Tony Gwynn would have been taught/told along the way to ditch their balanced, hit to all fields swing and approach with an all or nothing, pull happy, high leg kick, and swing for the fences every time approach. That's why we never see those guys anymore.
That's what makes Jake so special. He slipped through the cracks of the current system that probably ruins the potential of 99.9% of these types of players by Jr High.
What sucks is the ESPN requires 3.1 PA/G to get listed on their stats for batting average. Mangum wasn’t in the first two games and has only had 4 PA/game since so hasn’t made it up. He’s also not in the lineup tonight
Yep, bought a ticket in right field when he got called up. Oh well, at least I got a Peagle statue and a dumb bucket hat.
Makes perfect sense to sit a guy who's 8 for his last 12. I'm glad they got their azz kicked.
Groin pull - 10 day IL, day to day. TB calls up Coco for a few days.
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Still gets full MLB salary I believe….should be back well before Lowe and Palacios.Groin pull - 10 day IL, day to day. TB calls up Coco for a few days.
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Jake Mangum Injury: Not close to return | RotoWire
Rays manager Kevin Cash said Wednesday that Mangum (groin) will be evaluated the week of May 19 and could head out on a rehab assignment soon thereafter...
damn... I was hoping for a potential quick turnaround. this doesnt help him....
That is painful, and hard to get over. Mine was two months plus. Yes, he has first class treatment, but it will take awhile.Jake Mangum Injury: Not close to return | RotoWire
Rays manager Kevin Cash said Wednesday that Mangum (groin) will be evaluated the week of May 19 and could head out on a rehab assignment soon thereafter...www.rotowire.com
damn... I was hoping for a potential quick turnaround. this doesnt help him....
This is why MLB is so dang difficult. Staying healthy for 162 games and playing at a world class level…..not easy
The good news for Jake is that the Rays outfield continues to not be producing at all, outside of Misner. Sub-.700 OPS for every other regular player that has been healthy. He shouldn’t have too much trouble getting back into the lineup once he is healthy.
Really makes you reflect on what Ripken did....
Your post made me go look up his numbers just to refresh my old feeble mind. I found this. I knew the HOF voters were complete dumbasses and had been forever, but this shows just how fkng stupid they were/are. Here are the voting percentages for the top 30 players to get in the HOF.
Mariano Rivera (100%)
Ichiro Suzuki (99.7%)
Derek Jeter (99.7%)
Ken Griffey Jr(99.3%)
Tom Seaver(98.8%)
Nolan Ryan(98.8%)
Cal Ripken Jr(98.5%)
Ty Cobb(98.2%)
George Brett(98.2%)
Hank Aaron(97.8%)
Tony Gwynn (97.6%),
Randy Johnson (97.3%),
Greg Maddux (97.2%),
Chipper Jones (97.2%),
Mike Schmidt (96.5%),
Johnny Bench (96.4%),
Steve Carlton (95.6%),
Adrián Beltré (95.1%),
Babe Ruth (95.1%),
Honus Wagner (95.1%),
Rickey Henderson (94.8%),
Willie Mays (94.7%),
Carl Yastrzemski (94.6%),
Luke Appling (94.0%),
Bob Feller (93.8%),
Reggie Jackson (93.6%),
Ted Williams (93.4%),
Stan Musial (93.2%),
Vladimir Guerrero (92.9%),
Roberto Clemente (92.7%),
Jim Palmer (92.6%),
Brooks Robinson (92.0%),
Tom Glavine (91.9%),
Wade Boggs (91.9%),
Ozzie Smith (91.7%),
Pedro Martínez (91.1%),
Christy Mathewson (90.7%),
Rod Carew (90.5%)
Roberto Alomar (90.0%).
These names not having 100% of the vote is hilarious. Imagine dying on the hill that Babe Ruth, Nolan Ryan or Willie Mays didn't need to be in the Hall of Fame.