Only when you tell everyone how special you are and better than everyone else. I remember the Irrational exuberance for Maine South a few years ago and beating they took for off the field stuff here.
Marist vs. Loyola
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The class of 2010 never lost a game in high school. They were the best and better than everyone else. But don't worry the likes of which will not be seen again @ MS. I'm guessing you are not a Bliss fan?
Great coach. Superior talent. Great team.
I'm deleting the rest of my post. I don't have the time or the energy to go back to the bad times on this board.
He absolutely does make a good point, especially when coming from a feeder school perspective. I was speaking in terms of the local demographic in general and the other solid options people have. If I lived in Park Ridge and didn't have any special allegiance to Loyola, I'd be sending my kid to Maine South.
I don't post often so my chances of offending people are few and far between. I'm batting .1000 for today though. Not the intent, but I guess that probably happens from time to time with a 1am post. I don't see my friends over there as much these day. Only made to one game so far this year. So I can't make any promises that I won't brag about them every now and then. I mean no harm.
I also don't think the game itself anything other than a 50/50 chance. We are at our best when we can wear teams down on the ground. Last year MS inserts Jarvis on the D line and that was a major factor. Marist has basically two Jarvis kind of kids on that line. I think this is the toughest test both teams have faced all year.
You are so easy. I posted that to pull your chain. Remember when I was still working we would bet how fast you would respond. I have to go vac/rake leaves now. Never buy a house on a hill or one that has 27 trees on it. Maybe you can polish the trophy.
What about the competition LA has from highly regarded public schools in the area? LAguy mentions that in his post. Is that not serious competition for student/athletes for LA? What's the quality of the public school option for the Southside private schools? Seems to me the Southside privates have intense competition from other private schools in the area. The public school competition on the Southside? Not even close to what LA deals with.
Hey great post. Keep it to football. You do have a great team and a great coach. But let outsiders give the team the accolades.
Loyola by a good margin this week end. Good Luck.
No real competition for talent?
If Notre Dame and Loyola (closer to each other than Marist and Rita) alone could combine programs, what do you think would be the result?
Loyola draws students from all over the north side of the city and the north/northwest suburbs. In those areas, and from a private school perspective, they compete for many of the same kids against Notre Dame, Pat's, Viator, Carmel, Fenwick, DePaul Prep, and Ignatius. From just a suburban public school perspective, they compete for students against the likes of New Trier, Glenbrook South and North, Maine South (closer to Loyola than Marist is to Mt. Carmel), Evanston, and Stevenson...just to name a few. Not only are several of the suburban public schools in Loyola's area competitive 8A programs, but many of them are among the best public schools academically in the Chicago area, if not the entire state.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not complaining. Rather, I am pointing out the folly of your assertion that Loyola faces no real competition for talent.
I don't see where LAguy or other Loyola posters are saying that LA is superior to everyone else. But feel free to root for Marist if it makes you feel better.
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No other Catholic schools in the area to compete with? Has Notre Dame (closer to Loyola than Marist is to Rita) not gone 21-9 in the last three years? Have the Dons not qualified for the playoffs in 11 of the past 12 years? Has Viator not qualified for the playoffs in three of the last four years? Did Pat's not beat Reeters last year?
I'm not suggesting that Loyola has the same marketing dynamic as Marist or Rita in terms of competing for student athletes, but to suggest that LA competes with no other Catholic schools for student athletes is ludicrous.
Getting to the game, this Marist team is out of this world. Everyone talks about their 2 d lineman, but the other 2 boys are awesome as well. They just don't get the publicity. Also, their 1 LB that I know of is a scholarship player. Coupled with a tough, smart and fast secondary, you can see why they run the clock on teams. On offense, their RB is fast and mammoth in back of a very large and athletic O Line. The QB can run or pass and is very smart. This is a tall order for LA. They will need to somehow run on this team to slow down the pass rush. The offense is dynamic but will really need to be ready to rumble this week. No question.
Smoky - you're a good guy with fair-minded opinions.
However, I don't think the Loylola fans are necessarily being arrogant ... much of it is defense against cheap shots . Granted, LAguy is a bit of a load, but my school has those types, as well.
Hey, if you need a school to root for, I'll treat you to your first Gately Dog!
Which team has the better punt team and punt return team? Not being facetious. Both teams probably haven't punted much in meaningful situations relative to other teams across the state. Early forecasts are for chilly temps with wind picking up into the night bringing rain. I see a slugfest in between the 20s and the team that can flip the field when needed will gain an advantage.
Hey, they used to say that my senior year of HS when I was a 215lb RB back in the day. I'm sensing a different tone now...a bit more of a steamer, maybe? I'll work on my forum posting skills for the regulars so not to stink up the joint.
I can't speak to Marist, but LA has an excellent punter and kicker. Coverage team also plays well. We saw against New Trier the special teams recovered 3 critical onside kicks in the 4th quarter securing that game. I think they need some work on the punt return team. I can't remember the last time they returned a punt more than 10 yards. I agree with you that it may come down to the 3rd phase.
The MS punter had a lot to do with their troubles. He’s on to the next level.
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R-Man for content your are the number one poster here in my mind. Period. Wittman(sp) having been number two. I'm just a b-buster most of the time. But to compare LA to ND is like comparing the University of Michigan to Robert Morris College. To compare your situation to Marist/B-Rice/SR/MC and add DLS to a lesser extent tells me your not aware to smaller geographical area in question out south. You missed the fact BR (the largest all boys school in the state) is in the middle of Marist/SR.
You might have missed the nutrition threads a couple of week ago which has turn into good natured kidding now. A few years ago you did a some of posting when Maine South ESL and MC got full of themselves. You may not see that creeping into some of the posting now but others do. All of the CCL’ers seem to all be rooting for LA. That does not mean they for the most part they are rooting against Marist (exception BR). Most football fans want to see a LWE LA final. Now if I was Catholic I’d put some Latin stuff here now. But if I did that it would probably come out I’m saying something about someone’s sister.
R-Man for content your are the number one poster here in my mind. Period. Wittman(sp) having been number two. I'm just a b-buster most of the time. But to compare LA to ND is like comparing the University of Michigan to Robert Morris College. To compare your situation to Marist/B-Rice/SR/MC and add DLS to a lesser extent tells me your not aware to smaller geographical area in question out south. You missed the fact BR (the largest all boys school in the state) is in the middle of Marist/SR.
You might have missed the nutrition threads a couple of week ago which has turn into good natured kidding now. A few years ago you did a some of posting when Maine South ESL and MC got full of themselves. You may not see that creeping into some of the posting now but others do. All of the CCL’ers seem to all be rooting for LA. That does not mean they for the most part they are rooting against Marist (exception BR). Most football fans want to see a LWE LA final. Now if I was Catholic I’d put some Latin stuff here now. But if I did that it would probably come out I’m saying something about someone’s sister.
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I wouldn’t mind seeing a rematch between Swagger High and the Evil Empire!
I think when R-man was discussing where LA draws from, he left a few county’s out.
At any rate... good luck to all!! I hope everyone stays healthy!
I think when R-man was discussing where LA draws from, he left a few county’s out.
At any rate... good luck to all!! I hope everyone stays healthy!
Well to beat Swagger High you guys have to get past NC and LWE. One game at a time there fella.
He did leave out Wisconsin and the upper peninsula.....
Back at you on staying healthy.
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Additionally these same schools (excluding DLS) also battle for students from Orland, Palos, Tinley area and add in Providence Catholic. I have family in Orland (St. Michael Schol) and the four southside CCL Blue schools plus Marist , St. Ignaatius and STL all enroll students from this area. This is in addition to the excellent Public school options of Sandburg, Andrew, etc. There is no comparison to how fierce the competition is for enrollment on the southside/ southwest suburbs.
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Few things here--
First, while LA is undoubtedly a better academic school than ND (LA is better academically than every Catholic school in the state except for maybe Iggy), there is no question that they are competing for a lot of the same young men. Both schools hit the NW side Catholic schools hard (Juliana's, IC, QAS, SMOW, etc.). And many choose ND over LA. Few deciding factors go into this--many young men want the all-boy atmosphere that ND provides, ND has a few better athletic programs (basketball and wrestling come to mind) and ND is closer to the NW side.
Second, BR is no longer the largest all boys school in the state. That title now belongs to Robert Morris College--erm, I mean Notre Dame College Prep.
LA is a great school academically, but Iggy is better. My Dad went to Iggy in the 50's and jokes that they use to call the plays in the huddle in Latin.
Don't let the Benet people hear you say this!!
Your post was fine. The individuals that had issues are the teams that constantly lose to LA. They will get over it or maybe not. Take pride in what you believe. They have the same pride for their team. If they were confident in what they have going on at their school, there wouldn't be a need to be offended.
Thanks for the kind words that began your post. Truth be told, I also enjoy your posts and your ball busting style...especially when it is directed at MS.
Regarding LA and NDCP, I disagree. If you were to say LA and DePaul Prep, I would be more inclined to agree with your analogy of Michigan and Robert Morris College. NDCP is a solid 8A program playing in a solid conference. Again, they have missed the playoffs just once in the past 12 years. This year in round one, they lost in OT to Minooka, at Minooka. Minooka went on to hand Barrington its first loss of the season in round two. NDCP may not be a top tier 8A program, but they are most definitely a respectable one.
I know very well that Rice is situated between Marist and Rita. Another poster posited the hypothetical situation that if Marist and Rita's programs were combined that it would be an 8A power. My response to him was to point out that Loyola and ND are closer to each other than Rita is to Marist. BTW, according to the IHSA, Notre Dame is a larger school than Rice. St. Pat's, another school with which Loyola competes for many of the same students, is not much smaller than Rice..
I am very aware of the competition for student athletes among the south side Catholic schools. Very aware. I indicated as much in a previous post in which I said "I'm not suggesting that Loyola has the same marketing dynamic as Marist or Rita in terms of competing for student athletes." Simply because it is not similar, or as intense, does not mean that Loyola faces zero competition for student athletes, which is effectively what some posters have been saying.
I take exception to those posters, primarily sout' siders, who claim that Loyola has a monopoly on talented student athletes from the area in which it markets itself, which is exemplified by one poster making the outrageous claim that Loyola "can get anyone it wants between DLS and the Wisconsin border." To me, that indicates that those posters are not aware of the competition that exists up north.
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You got that right - the Benedictines will stack up against those Jesuits school very well.
Thanks for the kind words that began your post. Truth be told, I also enjoy your posts and your ball busting style...especially when it is directed at MS.
Regarding LA and NDCP, I disagree. If you were to say LA and DePaul Prep, I would be more inclined to agree with your analogy of Michigan and Robert Morris College. NDCP is a solid 8A program playing in a solid conference. Again, they have missed the playoffs just once in the past 12 years. This year in round one, they lost in OT to Minooka, at Minooka. Minooka went on to hand Barrington its first loss of the season in round two. NDCP may not be a top tier 8A program, but they are most definitely a respectable one.
I know very well that Rice is situated between Marist and Rita. Another poster posited the hypothetical situation that if Marist and Rita's programs were combined that it would be an 8A power. My response to him was to point out that Loyola and ND are closer to each other than Rita is to Marist. BTW, according to the IHSA, Notre Dame is a larger school than Rice. St. Pat's, another school with which Loyola competes for many of the same students, is not much smaller than Rice..
I am very aware of the competition for student athletes among the south side Catholic schools. Very aware. I indicated as much in a previous post in which I said "I'm not suggesting that Loyola has the same marketing dynamic as Marist or Rita in terms of competing for student athletes." Simply because it is not similar, or as intense, does not mean that Loyola faces zero competition for student athletes, which is effectively what some posters have been saying.
I take exception to those posters, primarily sout' siders, who claim that Loyola has a monopoly on talented student athletes from the area in which it markets itself, which is exemplified by one poster making the outrageous claim that Loyola "can get anyone it wants between DLS and the Wisconsin border." To me, that indicates that those posters are not aware of the competition that exists up north.
University of Michigan and Robert Morris plus the Wisconsin/Upper Peninsula were ment to be jokes as was the DLS to Wisconsin the other guy poster posted I presume. Save the bullets for next week if a couple of teams win that have a history of obnoxious posting. You do the serious posting I'll do the less serious stuff. Good luck Saturday.
