I was aiming more to the point that the highest ranked recruit Stoops got (in his coaching forte to be added) has not only not progressed at all I'd argue he's digressed since stepping on campus. Not good coaching period.
Mark Stoops sounds like a fool on post game.
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********, if Elam had gone to Bama he would have been switched to OL, he is not now nor will he ever be an NFL NT, or DT, if he really wants to play at the next level he needs to switch to OL, he does not have the motor to play defense, Pringle is far and away more physical and active upfront than Elam.
He hasn't been coached up at UK. AT Bama they would've made him hit the weight room and redshirt, also would've put him at the right position, could he have been moved to Oline, possibly. But to think that big body couldn't at least fill a gap is asinine. He's 6'6 320 for Gods sake.
I would like to see him on Oline. I think he would be better a guard then Tackle. I dont think he has the footwork for tackle. Hell maybe even center. He is not looking like a very good D Lineman.
"Our boys are recruiting Ohio like madmen. We're going to right the ship. Just give me four more years, some better recruiting classes and another $16 million and we'll get back to work, I promise you. Me and DJ are going to get back to work. We're going to give 110% and get back to work. That was unacceptable. We have to coach better, we have to play better. We're going to get back to work."
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Watch the way Elam moves and then watch Pringle, Dubose, Middleton, any other DT or NT on this team they are more disruptive, more active, watched Pringle put a couple spin moves on
I think thats because the other players have worked harder. While Elam was worshipped as big man on campus by both college kids and the coaching staff. Its rare to see a kid go from a 5* to no star athlete in 2.5 years without an injury.
Did Mark send along some defensive ideas to Bob tonight for his game with OSU, after our soiree?
Yeah but he is not athletic or strong enough from what I have seen to be a good defensive lineman. Regurgitated ad nauseum on these boards but he plays too high, not explosive off the ball, he just does not have the power and technique to be a good DT or NT
All of which should've probably been addressed in his first 2 years in a UK uniform. Or do the players decide what they need to work on and when to go to the weight room on their own?
DEFENSE
LB: Josh Allen (6-5, 230, So.); Jordan Bonner (6-5, 220, So.-JC)
DT: Adrian Middleton (6-3, 303, So.); Calvin Taylor Jr. (6-9, 295, R-Fr.)
NG: Matt Elam (6-7, 360, Jr.); Naquez Pringle (6-3, 320, Jr.)
DE: Courtney Miggins (6-5, 285, Sr.); Alvonte Bell (6-5, 260, Jr.)
DE/OLB: Denzil Ware (6-2, 255, So.); De’Niro Laster (6-4, 241, Jr.)
NB: Kendall Randolph (6-0, 182, Jr.); Blake McClain (5-11, 200, Sr.)
LB: Courtney Love (6-2, 242, Jr.); Kash Daniel (6-1, 241, Fr.)
LB: Jordan Jones (6-2, 220, So.); Eli Brown (6-2, 215, R-Fr.)
CB: Derrick Baity (6-3, 182, So.); Jordan Griffin (6-0, 177, Fr.) OR Davonte Robinson (6-2, 187, Fr.)
CB: Chris Westry (6-4, 195, So.); J.D. Harmon (6-2, 200, Sr.)
SS: Mike Edwards (6-0, 200, So.); Kendall Randolph (6-0, 182, Jr.)
FS: Blake McClain (5-11, 200, Sr.); Marcus McWilson (6-0, 210, Sr.)
this is the depth chart from today's game. Notice seven sophomores starting, one Jr who is a transfer playing first football in two years, Elam a Jr who hasn't played much until forced into action when injuries hit last year, and two seniors. The defense is super young. We had to replace from graduation (mostly juco players to fill holes, or fusilli me reasons or personal reasons) most of the defense from last year who wasn't to awful bad and kept us in quite a few games.
If you don't see this as young in lower conference football, you are really blinded by your dislike for stoops. I would bet there is not a younger unit in any power five conference (if you can call us that)
I'm not positive but I think it was this staff that recruited and developed these players. This is year four. Not year one or two. It's a coach's responsibility to look at that roster and see whose graduating, whose staying, etc. That's coaching 101. If he's "super young" in year four whose fault is that?
Don't think they was expecting Darius west, Jason Hatcher, and Reggie meant to not be playing this year. That is three starters, with experience they was expecting to have. But it was asked when we wouldn't be young. Would say on defense next year we will not be young.
You're going to have starters out and transferring every year. That's football. Even if we had those guys do you honestly think this defense would be significantly better? I think it would be just as bad. These coaches don't know how to utilize what they have
We're not quite terrific yet, and the Harry Chapin thing........what? Nice touch maybe...but .....what?
Just go with it..Mitch treats this program like a joke so we might as well do the same
Confucious say, "Coach who blame mistakes on team, team no more play for him"
This is totally untrue! With our amount of stars we have??? Jauk11...Please explain this to this guy?
I understand the frustration, but please don't call our players "loser kids". You sound like a loserville fan when you do that.
UK, overall, needs to play better with fewer mistakes. They need to get back to work this week and work on the fundamentals and executing plays so that they can play better football.
Don't belong in the SEC? It's far worse than that. We wouldn't be competitive in most conferences, and middle of the pack in the weakest.
Agree, but he was the crown jewel in that class and you don't want to run him off, right. But they didn't do him any favors by promising him he could play a position he is not cut out for
I think player development is a serious problem with Stoops. He has had some pretty decent recruiting classes and they aren't improving as they get older. I remember every used to talk about how our young guys had some great talent and 2-3 years later they haven't improved.
Bottom line is MB should be fired for giving MS a 12 million buyout and MS should be fired for incompetence.
You don't need an agent when dealing with Mitch. His contract will always be in your favor.
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But Stoops was running the D yesterday and Stoops calling plays looks worse than Elliot:joy:
The common denominator of incompetence in the program is becoming quite clear.
Uk is about the only team in college football with attrition or injuries also. Other teams never have players leave, never have injuries. Only at Kentucky! I would suggest in the future to think ahead and say, we may have discipline problems, we may have injuries, you know...football and all. Let's recruit some depth. Like s\Johnson at QB, didn't hurt having barker out, at least didn't hurt yesterday
No one asked this when Mike Leach tossed his players into the fire after his team started 0-2.
Its Funny it takes Petrino 3 years at UL to have them in playoff contention but Stoops in year 4 hasn't even got UK close to even competeing in the SEC east. Coaching is garbage!