'Mask off': Legal expert warns conservative justices don’t 'care about' the Constitution

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'Mask off': Legal expert warns conservative justices don’t 'care about' the Constitution

In an article for The Nation published Thursday, legal commentator Elie Mystal argued that the Trump administration has peeled back the facade of the conservative justices on the Supreme Court, saying that “they don’t actually care about precedent … They don’t actually care about the text. They don’t actually care about judicial restraint. They want the political outcomes they want and they have the votes to do it.”

Mystal took aim principally at Justice Clarence Thomas, who in recent remarks at Catholic University made clear (in careful legal language) what Mystal claims has long been true: Thomas believes that Supreme Court precedent does not bind him. He questioned the sanctity of stare decisis, the doctrine that courts should follow prior rulings, suggesting that invoking it is too often a “talismanic deal” that excuses lazy reasoning.

Instead, Mystal contended, Thomas is signaling that he feels free to discard past decisions that do not align with his political preferences.

According to Mystal, Thomas is not interested in the traditional, accepted paths for revising precedent — namely, new legislation, case-by-case distinctions, or showing that circumstances have materially changed. Rather, Thomas is proposing that precedents should be judged for whether they are “respectful of our legal tradition, and our country, and our laws” — a nebulous standard that invites subjective judgment.

In practice, Mystal says, Thomas has already applied this approach selectively: he endorsed the overturning ofRoe v. Wade while favorably citing Loving v. Virginia, not because of coherent legal distinctions, but because Thomas’s own value judgments align with one outcome and not the other.

Mystal warned that Thomas is not an outlier. He argued that the conservative majority now on the Roberts Court shares this disregard for precedent, and that this term they are poised to overturn a voting‑rights decision that the Court itself adopted only in recent years. The “mask off moment,” Mystal says, is that the Justices no longer even pretend to be bound by the rules they swore to uphold in their confirmation hearings.

The stakes, Mystal wrote, are particularly high for groups historically marginalized under majority white, cis-hetero power structures. If no precedent is safe, then rulings that protect rights — from same-sex marriage to abortion to voting equality — can be jettisoned by the Court at will. But he also sees a silver lining: by making explicit that precedent is no barrier to his agenda, Thomas has handed future liberal justices a kind of roadmap to dismantle the conservative edifice. If liberals ever regain a Court majority, the power of the current regime, Mystal suggested, will fade as courts reject Thomas’ invented rules about which precedents are “respectful.”


"Clarence Thomas will soon be the longest-serving justice in American history. It’s good to know that he thinks his opinions will not matter after he’s dead. On that, he and I agree," he wrote.
 

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'Mask off': Legal expert warns conservative justices don’t 'care about' the Constitution

In an article for The Nation published Thursday, legal commentator Elie Mystal argued that the Trump administration has peeled back the facade of the conservative justices on the Supreme Court, saying that “they don’t actually care about precedent … They don’t actually care about the text. They don’t actually care about judicial restraint. They want the political outcomes they want and they have the votes to do it.”

Mystal took aim principally at Justice Clarence Thomas, who in recent remarks at Catholic University made clear (in careful legal language) what Mystal claims has long been true: Thomas believes that Supreme Court precedent does not bind him. He questioned the sanctity of stare decisis, the doctrine that courts should follow prior rulings, suggesting that invoking it is too often a “talismanic deal” that excuses lazy reasoning.

Instead, Mystal contended, Thomas is signaling that he feels free to discard past decisions that do not align with his political preferences.

According to Mystal, Thomas is not interested in the traditional, accepted paths for revising precedent — namely, new legislation, case-by-case distinctions, or showing that circumstances have materially changed. Rather, Thomas is proposing that precedents should be judged for whether they are “respectful of our legal tradition, and our country, and our laws” — a nebulous standard that invites subjective judgment.

In practice, Mystal says, Thomas has already applied this approach selectively: he endorsed the overturning ofRoe v. Wade while favorably citing Loving v. Virginia, not because of coherent legal distinctions, but because Thomas’s own value judgments align with one outcome and not the other.

Mystal warned that Thomas is not an outlier. He argued that the conservative majority now on the Roberts Court shares this disregard for precedent, and that this term they are poised to overturn a voting‑rights decision that the Court itself adopted only in recent years. The “mask off moment,” Mystal says, is that the Justices no longer even pretend to be bound by the rules they swore to uphold in their confirmation hearings.

The stakes, Mystal wrote, are particularly high for groups historically marginalized under majority white, cis-hetero power structures. If no precedent is safe, then rulings that protect rights — from same-sex marriage to abortion to voting equality — can be jettisoned by the Court at will. But he also sees a silver lining: by making explicit that precedent is no barrier to his agenda, Thomas has handed future liberal justices a kind of roadmap to dismantle the conservative edifice. If liberals ever regain a Court majority, the power of the current regime, Mystal suggested, will fade as courts reject Thomas’ invented rules about which precedents are “respectful.”

"Clarence Thomas will soon be the longest-serving justice in American history. It’s good to know that he thinks his opinions will not matter after he’s dead. On that, he and I agree," he wrote.

You Democrats still trying to lynch our best Supreme Court Justice we see.




 

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'Mask off': Legal expert warns conservative justices don’t 'care about' the Constitution

In an article for The Nation published Thursday, legal commentator Elie Mystal argued that the Trump administration has peeled back the facade of the conservative justices on the Supreme Court, saying that “they don’t actually care about precedent … They don’t actually care about the text. They don’t actually care about judicial restraint. They want the political outcomes they want and they have the votes to do it.”

Mystal took aim principally at Justice Clarence Thomas, who in recent remarks at Catholic University made clear (in careful legal language) what Mystal claims has long been true: Thomas believes that Supreme Court precedent does not bind him. He questioned the sanctity of stare decisis, the doctrine that courts should follow prior rulings, suggesting that invoking it is too often a “talismanic deal” that excuses lazy reasoning.

Instead, Mystal contended, Thomas is signaling that he feels free to discard past decisions that do not align with his political preferences.

According to Mystal, Thomas is not interested in the traditional, accepted paths for revising precedent — namely, new legislation, case-by-case distinctions, or showing that circumstances have materially changed. Rather, Thomas is proposing that precedents should be judged for whether they are “respectful of our legal tradition, and our country, and our laws” — a nebulous standard that invites subjective judgment.

In practice, Mystal says, Thomas has already applied this approach selectively: he endorsed the overturning ofRoe v. Wade while favorably citing Loving v. Virginia, not because of coherent legal distinctions, but because Thomas’s own value judgments align with one outcome and not the other.

Mystal warned that Thomas is not an outlier. He argued that the conservative majority now on the Roberts Court shares this disregard for precedent, and that this term they are poised to overturn a voting‑rights decision that the Court itself adopted only in recent years. The “mask off moment,” Mystal says, is that the Justices no longer even pretend to be bound by the rules they swore to uphold in their confirmation hearings.

The stakes, Mystal wrote, are particularly high for groups historically marginalized under majority white, cis-hetero power structures. If no precedent is safe, then rulings that protect rights — from same-sex marriage to abortion to voting equality — can be jettisoned by the Court at will. But he also sees a silver lining: by making explicit that precedent is no barrier to his agenda, Thomas has handed future liberal justices a kind of roadmap to dismantle the conservative edifice. If liberals ever regain a Court majority, the power of the current regime, Mystal suggested, will fade as courts reject Thomas’ invented rules about which precedents are “respectful.”

"Clarence Thomas will soon be the longest-serving justice in American history. It’s good to know that he thinks his opinions will not matter after he’s dead. On that, he and I agree," he wrote.
Elie Mystal...a legal expert...laughable. He is actually a liberal freak.
 

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Elie Mystal...a legal expert...laughable. He is actually a liberal freak.
Why do you say he's not a legal expert? his Harvard law degree would qualify him. So, if someone has different politics than you then they're wrong? give the board your analysis of the article and the points where you disagree. You and others do this all the time and it's a very weak response. Mindlessly attack the author or media source which you think allows you to dismiss the article. It just shows you aren't capable of providing thoughtful comments about how the author is wrong iyho. Fail.
 
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Why do you say he's not a legal expert? his Harvard law degree would qualify him. So, if someone has different politics than you then they're wrong? give the board your analysis of the article and the points where you disagree. You do this all the time and it's a very weak response. Mindlessly attack the author or media source which you think allows you to dismiss the article. It just shows you aren't capable of providing thoughtful comments about how the author is wrong iyho. Fail.

Justice Thomas and the Supreme Court has been given extra security. So you can give up on attempting to lynch him.
 

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Why do you say he's not a legal expert? his Harvard law degree would qualify him. So, if someone has different politics than you then they're wrong? give the board your analysis of the article and the points where you disagree. You and others do this all the time and it's a very weak response. Mindlessly attack the author or media source which you think allows you to dismiss the article. It just shows you aren't capable of providing thoughtful comments about how the author is wrong iyho. Fail.
He is NOT open minded...ALWAYS attacks conservatives....NEVER does the same to far left liberals.
I respect people that can put aside,hint..hint.hint, their political bias and comment on the good and bad fairly.
I have pointed out MANY times what I don't like about Trump...On the other hand, you have NEVER done the same with any Democrat...You are on record.
 

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He is NOT open minded...ALWAYS attacks conservatives....NEVER does the same to far left liberals.
I respect people that can put aside,hint..hint.hint, their political bias and comment on the good and bad fairly.
I have pointed out MANY times what I don't like about Trump...On the other hand, you have NEVER done the same with any Democrat...You are on record.

I celebrated when Mitch McConnell announced retirement. Several more RINO 's to go in then Vance will be able to get more accomplished after 2028.
 

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He is NOT open minded...ALWAYS attacks conservatives....NEVER does the same to far left liberals.
I respect people that can put aside,hint..hint.hint, their political bias and comment on the good and bad fairly.
I have pointed out MANY times what I don't like about Trump...On the other hand, you have NEVER done the same with any Democrat...You are on record.
lol more failure. You're not up to it, it's ok.
 

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lol more failure. You're not up to it, it's ok.


Didn't I tell you to start looking into Non- Extradition Countries to move to.





The left should buckle up for what they are about to hear... CNN just admitted the majority of Americans say President Trump is doing exactly what he promised in 2024. 52% - YES 48% - NO And it gets worse for them: CNN also reports Trump holds the most consistent favorable rating this far into a presidency of any president in history. "Trump is basically doing what the American people thought that he was going to do. Indeed, if you look at the numbers, Trump has basically the steadiest favorable rating this much through a presidency of any president on record, and it's basically where he was a year ago, good enough to get him reelected."
 

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That's why Moe and his tribe are trying to incite violence against him.





BREAKING: Democrat voting rights groups are now frantically preparing for the Supreme Court to ABOLISH the Voting Rights Act districts, resulting in a whopping *+19 MORE REPUBLICAN HOUSE SEATS* being added. Holy smokes. These districts are drawn for minorities to favor Democrats - but SCOTUS is on the verge of overturning it, per POLITICO. "That calculation...would all but guarantee Republican control of Congress." The case: Louisiana v. Callais, will be heard by SCOTUS in one week. SCOTUS Justice Clarence Thomas is sure to take a torch to this ridiculous practice of drawing districts based on race. END IT ONCE AND FOR ALL!
 

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You Democrats still trying to lynch our best Supreme Court Justice we see.








BREAKING: Governor Ron DeSantis says Florida will QUICKLY re-draw its congressional map if and when the Supreme Court ABOLISHES race-based VRA districts that disfavor Republicans DESANTIS: “The constitutionality of racial gerrymandering will be argued before the Supreme Court this week.” “If the Court finds the use of race to be unconstitutional then it will necessitate new congressional redistricting in a number of states, including Florida.” Clarence Thomas has indicated he will take a BLOW TORCH to the Voting Rights Act discriminatory district drawing. It will cripple Dems in other states, too.
 

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You should have hung him. That would have sent the right message to others.



How much do you pay them to stand outside your house Chuck. Controlled Opposition.