Has anyone heard anything definitive?
I suspect they will be voluntary, and being vaxxed, I probably won’t wear one.
I suspect they will be voluntary, and being vaxxed, I probably won’t wear one.
Masks at Commonwealth?
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I hope not, but I'll wear one if we have to in order to go.
Outdoors means you shouldn’t have to, but you never know.
Being vaxxed doesn’t matter though, you can still carry it, which is why we are in this shape right now. Half the nation is vaxxed and half is not and neither think they should wear a mask, so it’s spreading like wildfire now.
I’m vaxxed, but I will still wear a mask indoors now. Wasn’t last week, but now with the numbers climbing, I’ll be masking up to try to help keep the unvaxxed (including my 9 year old) safe. Plus, there is a chance I could get sick. The vaccine is not 100%.
Being vaxxed doesn’t matter though, you can still carry it, which is why we are in this shape right now. Half the nation is vaxxed and half is not and neither think they should wear a mask, so it’s spreading like wildfire now.
I’m vaxxed, but I will still wear a mask indoors now. Wasn’t last week, but now with the numbers climbing, I’ll be masking up to try to help keep the unvaxxed (including my 9 year old) safe. Plus, there is a chance I could get sick. The vaccine is not 100%.
I abhor wearing masks because they do absolutely NOTHING to prevent the spread, but I comply when I have to. I'm not vaxxed and don't plan to either. I will have mine in my pocket week 2 just in case. I'd hate for the crowd to sound like a bunch of South Park Kenny's, lol.
If they allow full capacity and people are literally sitting right next to each other, it’s not going to matter much that it’s outside. It’s going to be a super spreader event no matter what.
I'm vaxxed and had Covid in July. I'm fricking superman.
I like how when the "common folk" get together it's a super spreader event, but it's crickets when the "elite" do the same thing. SMFH!
Don’t recall making that assertion one bit. If that’s what you think, you got that from somewhere else, not from me.
Never said you did just making an observation about the current climate. Really don't know how you arrived at that without me specifically "calling you out on it", which I didn't and wasn't my intention. Sorry you took it that way.
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No biggie! I’ve had more than a few people on this board read things into what I said that weren’t there or were not intended. Seems I’ve done the same to you, apologies! After a while it’s like you expect it. Just goes to show that intent is sometimes difficult to figure out from someone’s written words.
I suspect they will not be voluntary, regardless of vaccinations.
I don’t think cloth masks stop the transmission of the virus, but they probably do inhibit droplets, so there is that. Being in a stadium shoulder to shoulder yelling your head off, I would hope people that go are vaccinated. Being outside is a big plus, but not preventative.
If they don't stop the transmission then they don't inhibit droplets. But hey, if I gotta wear one at the Mizzou game then I will. I will wear a quadruple one if I have to.
Sneeze or cough through cloth and see if droplets are inhibited/lessened.
False. They don't totally stop the spread but the do curtail it and it depends on the type of mask and how it's worn. A simple cloth mask is only about 20% effective but a properly worn KN95 mask can be as much as 80% effective.
This has been proven, but logically ask yourself, if masks don't prevent infections why would hospital staffs wear them?
Unfortunately because of the unwillingness for a large number of people to get vaxed, it would not surprise me if masks will be required at sporting events this year. Being outdoors definitely reduces the risk as opposed to indoors but sitting in close proximity with someone who is spreading Delta will almost guarantee you will become infected.
People not listening to the advise of medical experts is why we are in this situation and if they continue not to listen it will only get worse. I don't want to see games cancelled this year.
You ever worn a KN95 mask? They're very hard to breathe in. If they're only 80% effective I would much rather take the risk of not wearing it, for a virus that has a 99.9% survival rate than to have to wear that uncomfortable mask for 3.5 hours sweating my baggets off and increasing my blood pressure and heart rate due to the difficulty of breathing. Check your heart rate while you're wearing that mask. I am much more concerned about the long term health risks associated with heart disease from wearing that mask than I am about a virus that in all likely hood will not cause serious side effects being that I'm fairly young, healthy and vaccinated.
Oregon and Oregon St are first power 5 schools to require being vaccinated or proof of a negative test to attend their games this fall. Probably going to see more of this.
Yes I bought them as soon as they were available and have worn one everywhere I go inside until I was vaxed and before Delta took over, now I'm wearing them again. Sure they are a bit uncomfortable but it's a damn site better than winding up in an IC unit somewhere, and my personal decision also included doing my part to protect my fellow citizens by masking where it was practicable.
The studies I've looked at show that negative effects on blood pressure and heart rate etc. only occur with any significance if you are exerting yourself physically like exercising, playing a sport, doing physical work etc. If any of that applies follow the advise of your medical pros.
Wearing a mask seems like a small price to pay to protect others and get to watch football! Let’s do this!
Cloth masks are more like 1% effective, which makes them virtually USELESS. Unless you wear the N95 respirator PROPERLY, you won't get the 80%.
I am a doctor and the reason we wear masks is to prevent MUCH LARGER particle bacteria and virus to transmit in the hospital setting. The Covid 19 virus has particles that are so SMALL that transmission is ONLY reduced with the N95 respirator. To wear the N95 properly in 90 degree heat for 3 1/2 hours is a big ask. Then you add in the fact that when you take it off to eat or drink you are potentially spreading the virus to your hands then your mouth.
All I'm saying is that the measures needed to mitigate the spread at a football game are difficult to achieve. That's why I AGREE with you that the VERY BEST way to cut down on the risk of contracting it AND spreading it, is to GET VACCINATED!!!!
It BLOWS MY MIND that there are so many that won't take the vaccine!!
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The only masks that will help are N-95 & N-100......all the other paper or cloth face diapers are just about worthless...they don't seal around your face and they aren't capable of preventing your breathing in micron virus particles, so I don't blame you.
I think you need to read this. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4420971/
Masks will almost surely be required imo. Andy put the school order in the night before school started, so the fact it isn't ordered yet is really not a sign of anything.
this study concludes that medical masks (like the KN95) are vastly superior to cloth masks - that's essentially what I said. I have read 20% effective, the below linked report indicates as much as 50%.
Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19)
CDC provides credible COVID-19 health information to the U.S.
www.cdc.gov
Efficacy of any mask depends on how many people in the environment are wearing masks. i.e. if you are in room with 100 people and 80% are masked your mask is protecting you much more effectively then if say only 10 people were wearing masks.
That's what I was getting at without saying it. Even Dr Doom says the cloth masks are worthless. But I don't wear N95's.
D, you are exactly correct! As a surgeon, I've been wearing a mask during surgical procedures for 50 + years, and know of no one who has ever gotten an infection from me.
Regardless of opinions from various masses, science states emphatically that wearing masks cuts down the chances of Covid infections. Believe it, or don't, but those are facts.
You missed the point or didn't actually read it. As it noted, surgical masks, as worn in hospitals, are ineffective at stopping infectious disease. They are designed for stopping larger droplets. This is precisely why 99% of the masks people wear are nearly useless.this study concludes that medical masks (like the KN95) are vastly superior to cloth masks - that's essentially what I said. I have read 20% effective, the below linked report indicates as much as 50%.
Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19)
CDC provides credible COVID-19 health information to the U.S.
Efficacy of any mask depends on how many people in the environment are wearing masks. i.e. if you are in room with 100 people and 80% are masked your mask is protecting you much more effectively then if say only 10 people were wearing masks.
That is in conflict with the findings of the NIH study I posted.
The terms can be confusing. The term "surgical mask" refers to the single layer disposable type masks - it's true that their efficacy is small compared to the N95 respirator type masks. This article explains it better.
N95 Respirators, Surgical Masks, Face Masks, & Barrier Face Coverings
N95 respirators, surgical masks, face masks, and barrier face coverings offer different levels of protection for the wearer from particles.
Here is the copy of the exact quote from NIH:
"A conclusion can be reached based on the current studies: correctly wearing masks of all kinds, despite their different designs, functions and effectiveness, will to a large degree reduce the overall risks of COVID‐19 infection and enhance general protection from coronavirus."
This has been proven, but logically ask yourself, if masks don't prevent infections why would hospital staffs wear them?The terms can be confusing. The term "surgical mask" refers to the single layer disposable type masks - it's true that their efficacy is small compared to the N95 respirator type masks. This article explains it better.
N95 Respirators, Surgical Masks, Face Masks, & Barrier Face Coverings
N95 respirators, surgical masks, face masks, and barrier face coverings offer different levels of protection for the wearer from particles.www.fda.gov
I was responding to that statement. Surgical masks is what the vast majority of hospital workers wear. They don't stop a virus but they do stop droplets.
The terms can be confusing. The term "surgical mask" refers to the single layer disposable type masks - it's true that their efficacy is small compared to the N95 respirator type masks. This article explains it better.
N95 Respirators, Surgical Masks, Face Masks, & Barrier Face Coverings
N95 respirators, surgical masks, face masks, and barrier face coverings offer different levels of protection for the wearer from particles.
Which is in direct conflict with the study done before covid and its politicization.
Certainly, but even you might admit that, since masks inhibit droplets, and since there are viral particles in droplets, there is a decrease in viral dissemination with masks.