Mason should have gone down at the 1..

[57stratdawg]

It is so tough to situtationally prepare your team for that particular spot, but that's the right move. You had 230 yards rushing at that point, and the FSU D was gassed, AND it's only a 3 point game. Even if they stuff you 3 times you can still tie the game with a FG.

I think the future of college football is protecting the final possession. Almost every team in the country can score in less than 2 minutes today. Even if you just make FSU burn a couple timeouts - that's huge.

I think that's the future of college football.

 

[Wicked Pissah]

I said same thing as it happened. Ive only seen 1 player do it in my lifetime.

 

[randystewart]

I agree that it probably would have worked, but any coach who called it that way should be fired. No way you pass up the go ahead TD in the NC game in hopes of burning so more time and then scoring. Too many variables when taking the next couple of snaps. Only time you pass up a score is when you already have the lead.

 

[TailgateCo]

A buddy of mine and I were talking about this last night. They were running clock burning plays. He just slipped through. In hindsight that would be the move to make, but when you are running what you expect to be a 3-5 yard play and then break free...its mighty hard to not take the TD when its right there in front of you.

 

[57stratdawg]

I don't think those variables outweigh the likelihood of FSU putting the ball in the endzone with 1:30 and 2 timeouts. That's an NFL QB, NFL WRs, NFL OL, and NFL RB.

 

[Optimus Prime 4]

You can do that if you're tied. I've seen it a few times

someone in the NFL did it a few years ago, ran horizontally to burn time along the goal line then kneeled. But if you're down, you take the points. How many missed field goals have we seen this bowl season? Nothing is guaranteed. Hell, two holds and you're out of field goal range maybe.

 

[randystewart]

So you'd take a knee at the one. Then take a knee on first and second down forcing timeouts, leaving yourself with one down to try and score and then risk getting the tying fieldgoal blocked? All that when you had the chance to run in and put yourself up 4 with 1:30 left? I get that it "probably" would have worked, but you never pass up the TD in that situation.

 

[57stratdawg]

People don't miss FGs inside the 10 yard line.

 

[randystewart]

Did you watch the MSU-Bama game?
Also, I still maintain that you never pass up the lead for the possibility of a tie.

 

[fishwater99]

The Auburn defense lost the game on that 40+ pass play where 3 defenders did not make the tackle...

You have to take the TD and play defense... FSU was the better team and won the game..

 

[drt7891]

The cowboys/broncos game earlier in the season is a great case study on this very topic. The cowboys had a much better chance of winning by giving up the go-ahead score with 2:30 left and 0 timeouts instead of trying to stop them like they did. Go back and check out that game because this is a very interesting argument and a lot of differing viewpoints on this.

My philosophy would be to ask myself: "which unit do I trust more to win the game for me?" Then make sure you give that unit the best chance to win the game for you if put in that situation.

This is a great topic, though..

 

[57stratdawg]

You would only need to take one knee. FSU likely calls a TO after the ball is spotted - take a knee on first down (if you want) - and FSU calls their last timeout.

Now, it's 2nd and goal from the 2 yardline with 1:15 to go and FSU has 0 timeouts. Auburn is the best rushing team in the country. Even if they do stop you on 2nd down, the clock is going to roll under 20 second then.

 

[muddawgs]

Yeah

I don't think those variables outweigh the likelihood of FSU putting the ball in the endzone with 1:30 and 2 timeouts. That's an NFL QB, NFL WRs, NFL OL, and NFL RB.

and Auburn had held them in check all game. They had only given up 2 offensive TD's before the final one. If Auburn doesn't give up the big play at the end, then it's all a mute point. it was the 49 yard pass that did them and you can't give that up with a minute to go in the game, especially when you are in a prevent defense.

 

[57stratdawg]

Mississippi State FG kicking is not indicative of the BCS caliber teams that were taking the field last night. Parkey was 6 for 6 inside 30 yards this year, 9-15 beyond 30.

 

[ClaytonBigsby]

The Auburn defense lost the game on that 40+ pass play where 3 defenders did not make the tackle...

You have to take the TD and play defense... FSU was the better team and won the game..

This^^

 

[drt7891]

then it's all a mute point

Anotherwords, Gus could have written it in the forward of his new book**

 

[Seinfeld]

I'm still not entirely sure what happened on that play, but it looked to me like both defenders were trying to be the hero by jumping in front of the route in hopes of a pick. Unfortunately for them, both were late and to add insult to injury, they ended up colliding into one another.

I agree with you, though. That play lost the game, and you just can't take risks like that when in that situation. Auburn didn't need an interception. They just needed to keep FSU in front of them and preferably in bounds to keep the clock running.

 

[thekimmer]

Sounds good and all but no freaking way.......

The situations to do something like that are very very limited. It is virtually impossible to plan that or have the foresight to do that on a long run like that. Plus what if in the midst of concentrating on the dive a pursuing defender was able to punch the ball out? (remember what happened to our buddy bo wallace who admitted he was coasting in for the score?) What if even after successfully taking a dive you turned it over on the ensuing play? What if you play for 3 and miss the FG? Lets just say I would not want to answer the questions after that scenario.

The only way I would ever advocate something like that is if the LOS was inside the three, I could take the knee in a relatively controlled situation and the score was at least tied.

 

[tcdog70]

The Auburn defense lost the game on that 40+ pass play where 3 defenders did not make the tackle...

You have to take the TD and play defense... FSU was the better team and won the game..

At that point you are correct. But the game was lost when the Barners let Free-Shoes U run the fake punt. If they stop the fake punt that is a 10-14 point turnaround.

 

[missouridawg]

People don't miss FGs inside the 10 yard line.

Mizzou missed one inside of 25 yards against USCe that cost them the game in OT.

 

[mstateglfr]

If Dan ever called for this, almost the entire fanbase would call for his head.

 

[57stratdawg]

Not if we ultimately scored. We should killed more clock at the end of the 1st half against TAM.

 

[Shamoan]

anybody else see marshall miss a BUNCH of read plays? one once occasion, the corner blitzer did a hell of a job acting like he was going to go for the tailback then redirected to marshall, but it looked like nick had his mind made up where he was going with the ball and guessed wrong on some critical plays that would have been big gainers for auburn.

 

[archdog]

It is so tough to situtationally prepare your team for that particular spot, but that's the right move. You had 230 yards rushing at that point, and the FSU D was gassed, AND it's only a 3 point game. Even if they stuff you 3 times you can still tie the game with a FG.

I think the future of college football is protecting the final possession. Almost every team in the country can score in less than 2 minutes today. Even if you just make FSU burn a couple timeouts - that's huge.

I think that's the future of college football.

I thought he should have been called back for the very obvious hold on his TE on that play. Auburn, Alabama and LSU get to hold on the edge all day long every game and nothing. That seems to be the easiest holding call other than the OL dragging a guy back on a sweep play.

 

[archdog]

anybody else see marshall miss a BUNCH of read plays? one once occasion, the corner blitzer did a hell of a job acting like he was going to go for the tailback then redirected to marshall, but it looked like nick had his mind made up where he was going with the ball and guessed wrong on some critical plays that would have been big gainers for auburn.

I was reading somewhere that most of the read stuff is for show and misdirection when Auburn runs it. It may be a called handoff the entire way or a called QB run all the way, but they still use the option to set up plays 2-3 plays later. I believe they do this to keep the option balanced and keep the defense honest on their reads.