Mass shootings making the news again

812scottj

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I don’t recall even one shooting making the news during the Trump administration, but there have been several since Biden took office. The media trying to help back gun control?
 

Ahnan E. Muss

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I don’t recall even one shooting making the news during the Trump administration, but there have been several since Biden took office. The media trying to help back gun control?
I'd still like someone to explain Las Vegas...that one just got swept under the rug.

Looks like the OP definitely swept it under the rug.
 

Tskware

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This one just doesnt add up. Too many questions without logical answers and no motive was ever discovered/ revealed.
Correct even his girlfriend claimed to know nothing although he ordered a bunch of high capacity guns leading up to the shooting plus traveled to other concerts assessing potential sites, at least that was the theory. And left no real motive on his computer records either
 

Hank Camacho

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This one just doesnt add up. Too many questions without logical answers and no motive was ever discovered/ revealed.
I think he was just evil and that's unexplainable. His dad was a bank robber and his brother (and him) were into child porn. Sometimes simple is hard.

But, also, why have that many guns in one of the most surveilled places on Earth? Also, if he was going to commit a massacre, he wasn't particularly good at it and he killed himself 10 minutes in.

I don't know that it adds up or that it ever can, either.

The conspiracy theories on that tend toward the moronic.
 
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80 Proof

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I think he was involved in some sort of organized crime deal that went wrong. I think the government was either involved or aware, and helped cover up the truth. I dont believe his objective was to shoot at concert goers.
 

John Henry

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Gun control is really simple. If you do not like guns, don't buy one.

Until America shows they are serious about stopping murder in places like Chicago forget even thinking about passing gun control laws. Chicago has them, how is that working out.

But the government has no intention in saving the lives of innocent people who are terrorized by black gangs in major cities. So that leaves the rest of us one choice. Stay armed and know how to use it. You just never know when the day will come.
 

Hank Camacho

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I think he was involved in some sort of organized crime deal that went wrong. I think the government was either involved or aware, and helped cover up the truth. I dont believe his objective was to shoot at concert goers.
That doesn't explain why someone shot up a crowd of concert goers and nothing (publicly) occurred outside of the hotel room.

The hotel security guard getting magically spirited to Mexico for a month and then going on Ellen with a minder was curious. I'll give you that.

Nothing about that event makes any sense. If it was as simple as a smart, deranged guy deciding to end it all in a blaze of glory then he was remarkably bad at it given the tools he had assembled. (And WTF was he doing with a snorkel hooked to hose pipe?). If it was some sort of nefarious deal gone wrong, why not just kill a lone man in a hotel room quietly and leave rather than shooting up a concert for no apparent reason?

It is a rabbit hole. I don't think any explanation could be satisfactory so whatever the truth is, it won't ring true -- if that makes sense.
 
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Hank Camacho

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Gun control is really simple. If you do not like guns, don't buy one.

Until America shows they are serious about stopping murder in places like Chicago forget even thinking about passing gun control laws. Chicago has them, how is that working out.

But the government has no intention in saving the lives of innocent people who are terrorized by black gangs in major cities. So that leaves the rest of us one choice. Stay armed and know how to use it. You just never know when the day will come.

Do people respond to you like this in real life?

 

JDHoss

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I don’t recall even one shooting making the news during the Trump administration, but there have been several since Biden took office. The media trying to help back gun control?

April Fools joke or have you been living on another planet the last 4 years?

 

cricket3

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Can we chill with the conspiracies and go back to how absolutely dumb OP is?

Las Vegas (the deadliest shooting in US history)
Texas Church
El Paso Wal-Mart
Parkland
Thousand Oaks
Virginia Beach
Pittsburgh Synagogue
Dayton Bar
Marshall County High School

and for nearly 25% of Trump's presidency mass gatherings weren't happening.
 

Blueblood1975

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Can we chill with the conspiracies and go back to how absolutely dumb OP is?

Las Vegas (the deadliest shooting in US history)
Texas Church
El Paso Wal-Mart
Parkland
Thousand Oaks
Virginia Beach
Pittsburgh Synagogue
Dayton Bar
Marshall County High School

and for nearly 25% of Trump's presidency mass gatherings weren't happening.
Maybe the answer is Fox news didn't cover any of these...
 

BeAllied

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Can we chill with the conspiracies and go back to how absolutely dumb OP is?

Las Vegas (the deadliest shooting in US history)
Texas Church
El Paso Wal-Mart
Parkland
Thousand Oaks
Virginia Beach
Pittsburgh Synagogue
Dayton Bar
Marshall County High School

and for nearly 25% of Trump's presidency mass gatherings weren't happening.

I couldn't help but notice that you have forgotten about the shooting targeting Congressional Republicans...

Steve Scalise says, "Hi."
 

Cawood86_rivals

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I think he was involved in some sort of organized crime deal that went wrong. I think the government was either involved or aware, and helped cover up the truth. I dont believe his objective was to shoot at concert goers.
Take this FWIW. Me and my family went to Washington DC on vacation in '18. We met a gentleman there in a restaurant and got to talking about various things. Very nice man. We did the ususal where are from stuff. He said he was from Las Vegas and worked there for years in the Casinos there.

He had moved to DC to take care of his ailing parents. Anyhow, the conversation drifted into the shotting there and how awful it was, etc.

He said you watch and see how fast this disappears from the news and that it will suddenly become a non-story about what happened and why. Naturally we asked him why.

He said people do not realize how powerful those casinos are and they control much more than people realize. He said the real story will never come out. He was spot on now that I look back on it.

As I said, take it FWIW. Just relaying what he said.
 
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cricket3

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I couldn't help but notice that you have forgotten about the shooting targeting Congressional Republicans...

Steve Scalise says, "Hi."

I was trying to think of deadly ones from just from my memory but thanks for making OP look even dumber.
 
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80 Proof

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That doesn't explain why someone shot up a crowd of concert goers and nothing (publicly) occurred outside of the hotel room.

The hotel security guard getting magically spirited to Mexico for a month and then going on Ellen with a minder was curious. I'll give you that.

Nothing about that event makes any sense. If it was as simple as a smart, deranged guy deciding to end it all in a blaze of glory then he was remarkably bad at it given the tools he had assembled. (And WTF was he doing with a snorkel hooked to hose pipe?). If it was some sort of nefarious deal gone wrong, why not just kill a lone man in a hotel room quietly and leave rather than shooting up a concert for no apparent reason?

It is a rabbit hole. I don't think any explanation could be satisfactory so whatever the truth is, it won't ring true -- if that makes sense.
A lot of things aren't explained, that is what happens in a coverup. Also, contrary to what you stated, one individual getting off that many kill shots at that distance with a bump stock on an AR is not ballisticly logical. Even more bizarre are the leaked photos of his room where there was a major lack of cartridges despite over 1000 shots reported as being fired.
 

BeAllied

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I was trying to think of deadly ones from just from my memory but thanks for making OP look even dumber.

I'm glad to help. I just wouldn't want people to conveniently forgot about it because it doesn't align with their politics.
 
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CB3UK

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Take this FWIW. Me and my family went to Washington DC on vacation in '18. We met a gentleman there in a restaurant and got to talking about various things. Very nice man. We did the ususal where are from stuff. He said he was from Las Vegas and worked there for years in the Casinos there.

He had moved to DC to take care of his ailing parents. Anyhow, the conversation drifted into the shotting there and how awful it was, etc.

He said you watch and see how fast this disappears from the news and that it will suddenly become a non-story about what happened and why. Naturally we asked him why.

He said people do not realize how powerful those casinos are and they control much more than people realize. He said the real story will never come out. He was spot on now that I look back on it.

As I said, take it FWIW. Just relaying what he said.
This is what I've always thought. The casinos pushed it to the side in order to not damage their tourism.
 

BeAllied

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I've been registered and voted Republican for 20 years, like I said chill with the conspiracies.

At what point does a "conspiracy" turn to truth? It's not like all conspiracies are untrue and all influential people and organizations are fully transparent.

Personally witnessing a difference in media reaction to events based on who is perpetrating them, why it is being perpetrated, and who is reporting it is no longer a conspiracy. It's an agenda, and it has been evident for quite some time now. It's not just some fringe idea that people are going to chill over until mainstream media corrects itself through criticism.

Yes, mass shootings have been continuous. However, certain shootings and violent events are more sensationalized than others. Can we agree on that?
 

cricket3

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The conspiracy was you thinking I left out the congressional baseball game because I'm A LIBRUL.
 

BeAllied

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Maybe I am missing your point, examples?
George Floyd vs. Ahmaud Arbery, for example. One is more sensationalized because it involves a police officer, despite the other one being a more violent death.

Breonna Taylor was killed a few months before George Floyd, and it was mostly a local story until then. Why did it take a sensationalized killing of a man in another state for it to garner national attention? Weird.

"Mostly peaceful" with fires blazing in the background.

Mohammad Anwar's death being called an "accident" by CNN.

The Atlanta shooting has been labeled a hate crime and has been used to inflame tensions among Asians, despite the shooter blaming "sex addiction" and shooting a couple of white people and a Hispanic man in addition.

Countless race on same race crimes that occur every single day.

Do I need to continue?
 
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