Massive shooting in Vegas

[Hank Camacho]

I know that the authorities have to research every possibility but the ISIS angle strikes me as absolutely preposterous.

Again, however, I hope that the FBI etc is combing through every one of the Paddock brothers' pasts because there is a huge propensity for criminal behavior there.

 

[Hank Camacho]

A week and a half and InfoWars is still moronic.

 

[mashburned]

You're thinking way too literally. If you kill people because you denounce american capitalism and say you wanted to help islam rid the world of these heathen *** christians, you're ISIS. Idk jack, but it's not out of the realm of possibility that this guy hated america and talked about these things with the isis e-community. We just don't fn know. And you're just mad at krazykats or whatever. Who cares.

We do know police have found a plethora of electronic devices at each house and at the scene of the crime. If this guy was such a loner that nobody really knew, why does he have so many gd phones and laptops. That doesn't add up to me. AND AIRPLANES?? Was that fake news, because nobody has mentioned that since the first few days. I'm assuming that's fake?

And we have a strong suspicion the fbi aint really doing **** because someone walked right into Paddock's home and they don't know if anything is missing, etc. GTFO.

 

[Hank Camacho]

Wanna bet on an ISIS connection?

I love taking money.

 

[roguemocha]

Link?

FWIW, I am scared that this jackwagon taught a lot of evil idiots how to up their game. If I am ISIS, I'm looking at this like I just got a copy of Bill Belichik's playbook. That could be one reason why Johnny Law is so tight-lipped.

Hold on so you think shooting up a concert was basically a brand new idea that Paddock thought of and no one else had?

I’ve always thought sporting events and concerts were super easy targets. What’s to stop a van full of “martyrs” from pulling up outside one of these and just blasting the crowd unmercifully? You could have darn near 100,000 unarmed people confined in a relatively small area with a 10-20 minute window before a SWAT team could get there.

 

[wkycatfan7]

I certainly don't know. It does seem like something ISIS would do. I still think there's more here, just not sure what.

 

[mashburned]

Wanna bet on an ISIS connection?

I love taking money.

100-1 ISIS
10-1 Zuckerberg
2-1 Hillary

 

[krazykats]

And you're just mad at krazykats or whatever. Who cares.

Assume there is some conversation including Hankfaker going on here. Poor guy still on an anti-ISIS kick which is fine.

It's understandable to want to remove them from your realm of possibility, and TBH if you do how can you have any confidence in the LVPD, FBI, hotel security or the Sheriffs?

The only hope at this point is that it is ISIS somehow and they are all band together to keep it from the public to keep from causing the public outcry for war etc.

 

[roguemocha]

What’s the problem your talking about with hotel security?

 

[krazykats]

Just in general.......while the one guy was up there, it wasn't because the glass broke and valet alarmed them, or that he had attached a barricade to the staircase door, or that security cameras picked him up staging anything in the hallway or barricading doors etc.

If you believe reports now it's simply because a random door was ajar for too long.

And really if I'm being honest I'd say they are the least of the worries except if your going out to Vegas tomorrow what is sliding past the casino security.

 

[roguemocha]

Thanks for the explanation, didn’t want to have to go back through every page.

 

[Hank Camacho]

Hold on so you think shooting up a concert was basically a brand new idea that Paddock thought of and no one else had?

Adults are talking.

Don't go visit any one else's kids.

 

[Hank Camacho]

100-1 ISIS
10-1 Zuckerberg
2-1 Hillary

This legitimately made me spill mountain dew in my microwave.

Well done, good sir.

 

[roguemocha]

Adults are talking.

Don't go visit any one else's kids.

It was a serious question, you think he thought of this and no one else had? I’ve thought of it when I’ve been to football games when I was 20.

 

[mashburned]

This legitimately made me spill mountain dew in my microwave.

Well done, good sir.

That's how meth is made.

 

[dgtatu01]

Starting to think the Mandalay Bay let this shooter just kind of do whatever he wanted because he was a high roller and that maybe they ignored all the warning signs because he kept gambling. They probably first tried to handle the situation with in house security and didn’t notify the police till it was too late. Now they are covering their tracks to avoid $liability which is causing all the confusion in this investigation.

 

[Hank Camacho]

It was a serious question, you think he thought of this and no one else had? I’ve thought of it when I’ve been to football games when I was 20.

OF COURSE OTHER PEOPLE THOUGHT OF SHOOTING INTO OUTDOOR CROWDS YOU ABSOLUTE DUNCE THAT IS NOT THAT POINT HE MANAGED TO STACK A HOTEL ROOM IN PROBABLY THE MOST SURVEILLED CITY (I'LL ALSO ACCEPT NYC AND LA) WITH ASSAULT WEAPONS UNDER THE AUTHORITY'S NOSES.

Honestly, what in the hell are you talking about?

 

[dgtatu01]

OF COURSE OTHER PEOPLE THOUGHT OF SHOOTING INTO OUTDOOR CROWDS YOU ABSOLUTE DUNCE THAT IS NOT THAT POINT HE MANAGED TO STACK A HOTEL ROOM IN PROBABLY THE MOST SURVEILLED CITY (I'LL ALSO ACCEPT NYC AND LA) WITH ASSAULT WEAPONS UNDER THE AUTHORITY'S NOSES.

Honestly, what in the hell are you talking about?

See above Mandalay Bay is covering their tracks because they saw him walking the guns in and blew it off as eccentric high roller.

 

[roguemocha]

Pretty simple to do. You know how guns work? You can break them down into uppers and lowers, pack them in suitcases and just walk inside. With 100’s of people coming and going why would they be worried about a guy bringing in a few extra suitcases? You could put 27 rifles into 2 large suitcases I’d bet.

Now if you’re talking about the door barricades and such I don’t know the deal about that.

 

[krazykats]

Starting to think the Mandalay Bay let this shooter just kind of do whatever he wanted because he was a high roller and that maybe they ignored all the warning signs because he kept gambling. They probably first tried to handle the situation with in house security and didn’t notify the police till it was too late. Now they are covering their tracks to avoid $liability which is causing all the confusion in this investigation.

While this could be the case, I don't see how the FBI gives a **** to allow the narrative to be this F'd up.

They shouldn't and wouldn't care about Mandalay Bay's liability enough to cover this up. As a matter of fact because of the impact of the lack of security they should burn it to the ground for their share of stupidity.

 

[Hank Camacho]

While this could be the case, I don't see how the FBI gives a **** to allow the narrative to be this F'd up.

They shouldn't and wouldn't care about Mandalay Bay's liability enough to cover this up. As a matter of fact because of the impact of the lack of security they should burn it to the ground for their share of stupidity.

This is a legit good point. Knucks.

 

[dgtatu01]

While this could be the case, I don't see how the FBI gives a **** to allow the narrative to be this F'd up.

They shouldn't and wouldn't care about Mandalay Bay's liability enough to cover this up. As a matter of fact because of the impact of the lack of security they should burn it to the ground for their share of stupidity.

I’m not saying the FBI is covering it up, I’m saying Mandalay Bay is screwing with security footage and statements from their employees which is making the FBI’s investigation tougher.

 

[krazykats]

Again, if that's the case as fast as the FBI was involved I don't see how it could work unless the FBI was helping in the cover up.

To me unless it is ISIS I don't see why anything would be covered up. And to add to that I can only see it being covered up so that the public isn't in an outcry for war like they were in '01.

While Trump talks big it's simply talk, but his base is as about ready as it's ever been to show anyone America is back damn it. Trump knows his base blames the left for ISIS and I guarantee if that was ISIS and we didn't go to war somewhere for retribution you'd see the spark of a civil war here. The next BLM or ANTIFA protest would be ugly AF.

 

[krazykats]

Also, unless it's ISIS why is a criminal investigation stopping them from letting the security guard make a statement or be known?

Why isn't any footage of him throughout the week in the casino being shown?

What kind of gambol was he involved in?

Sounds like maybe a prostitute or 2 were in the room is there footage?

If he is a lone wolf nut job what kind of criminal investigation is in place here because the criminal is kinda dead!

 

[Hank Camacho]

 

[dgtatu01]

Pretty simple to do. You know how guns work? You can break them down into uppers and lowers, pack them in suitcases and just walk inside. With 100’s of people coming and going why would they be worried about a guy bringing in a few extra suitcases? You could put 27 rifles into 2 large suitcases I’d bet.

Now if you’re talking about the door barricades and such I don’t know the deal about that.

What I have read the last couple of days is they gave him access to the service and freight elevator. Again his high roller status helped him avoid suspicion and gave him access that made this easier to pull off.

 

[dgtatu01]

Also, unless it's ISIS why is a criminal investigation stopping them from letting the security guard make a statement or be known?

Why isn't any footage of him throughout the week in the casino being shown?

What kind of gambol was he involved in?

Sounds like maybe a prostitute or 2 were in the room is there footage?

If he is a lone wolf nut job what kind of criminal investigation is in place here because the criminal is kinda dead!

I don’t see the ISIS link unless they somehow set this guy up as a patsy. The FBI is not near as competent as you are giving them credit for. A casino that funnels billions of $’s of cash through its doors every month has security that is unbelieavably sophisticated. They can quickly delete or hide whatever they want to hide or show. With 500+ injured and 59 dead there are going to be attorneys looking everywhere for $’s and the big casino where the shooter had access is going to be a target. Follow the money. The money says the casino has incentive to hinder and mislead the investigation and the means to do so.

Just because the FBI is a lot slicker than agent runners, assistant basketball coaches, and shoe company runners, doesn’t mean they are slicker than Vegas casino security.

 

[roguemocha]

What I have read the last couple of days is they gave him access to the service and freight elevator. Again his high roller status helped him avoid suspicion and gave him access that made this easier to pull off.

Well that would be really stupid of them and they should be scared of the repercussions.

 

[krazykats]

It's not that I want to believe or even believe ISIS did this or flipped some white dude and got this done.

They are claiming this though and are adament our govt is covering it up. Which I don't believe either our govt or ISIS really so WTF.

What I do believe is our media will downplay everything ISIS, and for the most part they have thrown their hands up like WTF and been left in the dark.

That doesn't happen when white people go nuts! Ever! We are thrown to the wolves and that hasn't happened yet either, so it's really weird.

Then you add the change in timeline/story and I am not ruling ISIS out at all.

 

[mashburned]

Hillary is ISIS, just to be clear.

 

[wkycatfan7]

I've never fully understood the Dems thing with Islam, except maybe they both have a common enemy in Christianity.

 

[krazykats]

Well if they let them flood America they will vote democrat. That's what it is with Dems and anything non white.

 

[mashburned]

I've never fully understood the Dems thing with Islam, except maybe they both have a common enemy in Christianity.

Because Islam helps the Dem's (and Rep's) goal of creating a world police and a world without borders by destabilizing countries. But more short term, immediate impact is $$$$$$$$. Islam is rich.

 

[PhattyJ4UK_rivals309166]

It was a serious question, you think he thought of this and no one else had? I’ve thought of it when I’ve been to football games when I was 20.

Someone call homeland security and the fbi.. Don't be long before rogue acts on his 20 year old key west gay waiter fantasies.

Starting to think the Mandalay Bay let this shooter just kind of do whatever he wanted because he was a high roller and that maybe they ignored all the warning signs because he kept gambling. They probably first tried to handle the situation with in house security and didn’t notify the police till it was too late. Now they are covering their tracks to avoid $liability which is causing all the confusion in this investigation.

Don't be Alex Jones stupid. If the Mandalay bay had even the slightest hint of worry of something like this, or hell even one person being murdered, they would never have put a day of gambling over acting on it. You think they protected a gambler while shooting up the joint because they would lose his future gambling?

See above Mandalay Bay is covering their tracks because they saw him walking the guns in and blew it off as eccentric high roller.

Come on man. again, Don't be Alex Jones stupid.

What I have read the last couple of days is they gave him access to the service and freight elevator. Again his high roller status helped him avoid suspicion and gave him access that made this easier to pull off.

Now, you may have a point here. If you started with this and ended with this it would have been a decent point. Maybe he had access to things that helped him. But I'm 100% positive they didn't witness hin carrying 20 rifles to his room and tell him to make sure he gets his video poker in before shooting up the place.

 

[Hank Camacho]

Don't be Alex Jones stupid.

:fistbump:

 

[ukalumni00]

Could you imagine waking up one day with the ability to know everything and the first thing you know is that Alex Jones is actually stating the truth about everything he has said in the past....

 

[Crushgroove]

Because Islam helps the Dem's (and Rep's) goal of creating a world police and a world without borders by destabilizing countries. But more short term, immediate impact is $$$$$$$$. Islam is rich.

The trick is getting them here with general idiot Dem support BEFORE they start to inflict their numbers and influence on local gov'ts in EU.

If we start to see Sharia-type gov't takeovers due to capitulation, PC guilt and sheer Islam numbers in Germany, Sweeden and the UK, the Dems won't beable to deny that level of wokeness to even the most useful of idiots.

I mean... I think. ****, I really put nothing past these people.

 

[morgousky]

See above Mandalay Bay is covering their tracks because they saw him walking the guns in and blew it off as eccentric high roller.

Just so people realize, Las Vegas attracts people of all walks, including some your biggest firearm enthusiast. The ShotShow 2018, pretty much the premier gun show in America, is being held in Las Vegas this year.

I'd bet my house and retirement you won't see an attack at that event.

 

[morgousky]

Could you imagine waking up one day with the ability to know everything and the first thing you know is that Alex Jones is actually stating the truth about everything he has said in the past....

Jones has been right about a lot of things, it's just that people are so locked into what the media and academics pour into their brains that they can't fathom it. America has an ignorance and arrogance problem today.

He's a conspiracy pusher, sure. A lot of his information is wrong, but a lot of it that goes overlooked isn't. For example, the pedophilia and sexual harassment issues in Hollywood and some political circles have been real for a very long time.

His segments on 911 are just complete junk.

 

[TransyCat09]

The problem is that even when he's "right", it's only in the broadest sense.

Yes, he has talked about elite pedophilia and sexual assault rings...*but*, he also ties it in to the Illuminati and Bohemian Grove shadow government and the reason for the pedophilia is to either feed on the life source of youth or as a way to blackmail all of the powerful so that they can remain controlled.

That last bit sort of clouds the first bit