Massive shooting in Vegas

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I don't know **** about guns, but I read where maybe his weapon was modified to bump fire. Maybe that's a possibility instead of him having a fully automatic.
 
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An AR with a Slide Fire system could explain the slower rapport.

Also, I thought it was Jake Owen on stage.
Yep, it doesn't necessarily have to be a fully-auto weapon to have the "equivalent" of auto fire. Slide stocks will run ya about $300 bucks at Midway.com and they're perfectly legal.
 

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Sounds like it might've just been a guy who snapped over a divorce. His family says he wasn't political or religious.
 

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the real problem is politics buddy. The left sponsors everything that is anti American. Islam, BLM it doesn't matter I don't mind them the enabler of everything is liberalism. And they must be physically extinguished from this planet. There is no co exist with people who want to kill you. Remember the black Missouri state rep who said she hoped trump is assassinated. I fear for his life I really do and would be shocked if there is not an attempt made on his life soon.

All these anarchist liberals want is violence when you talk enough of it, some nut will reach a boiling point and do this. Someone needs to step up on the right and make a call to arms to start kicking some *** and shedding some liberal blood.
I hope and pray that soon there is a national militarized organization for conservatives. I don't have the planning skills to put that togather but I would definitely join.

Found the next mass shooter.
 

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I don't know **** about guns, but I read where maybe his weapon was modified to bump fire. Maybe that's a possibility instead of him having a fully automatic.
This is correct -- and it'll run through a 100 round drum in less than 10 seconds.

 

angryram

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Nah, guys like this are a dime a dozen. All talk and no balls. That's why he hangs out on a message board.
I hang out at this message board b/c I love this board and it kills time while I'm at work. I'm just to the point of enough is enough. I am not going to compartamentalize the destruction of this country. It really hurts to see this and I know why it is happening. People like you with no spine will let this kind of destruction happen and that's who you are. I am simply stating I hope that someone with great leadership skills confronts this. Democrats are the problem ; they must be confronted with force and exterminated .
 

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ISIS will take credit for a flu outbreak, bad weather, and anything else.

I'd be dubious that 64 year old Whitey McGee converted to islam months ago and then decided to do this. Not saying it is impossible, but that seems far-fetched.
 

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Yep, it doesn't necessarily have to be a fully-auto weapon to have the "equivalent" of auto fire. Slide stocks will run ya about $300 bucks at Midway.com and they're perfectly legal.
Amazing how many times they tried to get a bump fire product to market, yet they all got shot down by ATF citing this very type act as to why. Not sure what design loophole they finally allowed to slip thru, but what a horrible idea. I'd be scared to fire some jury-rigged machine gun.
 

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I hang out at this message board b/c I love this board and it kills time while I'm at work. I'm just to the point of enough is enough. I am not going to compartamentalize the destruction of this country. It really hurts to see this and I know why it is happening. People like you with no spine will let this kind of destruction happen and that's who you are. I am simply stating I hope that someone with great leadership skills confronts this. Democrats are the problem ; they must be confronted with force and destroyed.

I partially agree with you - fringe democrats are the problem, said are fringe republicans. 80% of us aren't that different and want the same things. The 20% are the loudest though.
 

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Amazing how many times they tried to get a bump fire product to market, yet they all got shot down by ATF citing this very type act as to why. Not sure what design loophole they finally allowed to slip thru, but what a horrible idea. I'd be scared to fire some jury-rigged machine gun.
Except there's no design loophole to thread through, that's why it's legal -- it's a purely mechanical side-effect of how the AR-15 fires, ejects, and then loads another round into the chamber. You can bump-fire any AR, an official aftermarket "Slide-Stock" just pretties up the process.

 

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Dude had a pilots license, he could have had the common decency to just crash a small plane into the crowd if his motive was to just kill a bunch of people. Of course, that wouldn't advance the notion of banning guns.

He was suicidal, why waste the chance to make a political statement? Right, left?
 

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Except there's no design loophole to thread through, that's why it's legal -- it's a purely mechanical side-effect of how the AR-15 fires, ejects, and then loads another round into the chamber. You can bump-fire any AR, an official aftermarket "Slide-Stock" just pretties up the process.


I get it... but the sticking point was always adding a moving part. You have to add a moving part (to the stock) to assist bump fire. That was always the reason ATF shot the countless previous designs down; adding a part to bypass the fire/trigger configuration. Still unsure how this design got thru as it isn't any different than most previous attempts.
 

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Except there's no design loophole to thread through, that's why it's legal -- it's a purely mechanical side-effect of how the AR-15 fires, ejects, and then loads another round into the chamber. You can bump-fire any AR, an official aftermarket "Slide-Stock" just pretties up the process.


It has been reported that he had a tripod. Seems like it would be difficult to bump fire.
 

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Things Obama said that were divisive:

“You go into these small towns in Pennsylvania and, like a lot of small towns in the Midwest, the jobs have been gone now for 25 years and nothing’s replaced them. And they fell through the Clinton administration, and the Bush administration, and each successive administration has said that somehow these communities are gonna regenerate and they have not. And it’s not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy toward people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.”

“Middle-class families can’t wait for Republicans in Congress to do stuff. So sue me.”

“There’s no excuse for police to use excessive force against peaceful protests or to throw protesters in jail for lawfully exercising their First Amendment rights.”

“On Easter, I do reflect on the fact that, as a Christian, I am supposed to love. And I have to say that sometimes, when I listen to less than loving expressions by Christians, I get concerned. But that’s a topic for another day.”

When talking about the Dallas police shooter, a BLM member, "First of all, I think it's very hard to untangle the motives of this shooter."

"Trayvon Martin could have been me 35 years ago."

There are numerous incidents where Obama rushed to judgment to condemn the police, but would always so to refrain rushing to judgment when it was a black person or Muslim.
 
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Hellary tweets that this is a time to set aside politics... then tries to score anti-NRA political points, as usual. I'm telling you, she still thinks she has a shot in 2020.

Please go back to walking in the woods.
 

Crushgroove

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@WayneDougan Oh, I completely agree. I haven't been following the gun scene the past few years. It appears they've been very busy.
 
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Things Obama said that were divisive:

“You go into these small towns in Pennsylvania and, like a lot of small towns in the Midwest, the jobs have been gone now for 25 years and nothing’s replaced them. And they fell through the Clinton administration, and the Bush administration, and each successive administration has said that somehow these communities are gonna regenerate and they have not. And it’s not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy toward people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.”

“Middle-class families can’t wait for Republicans in Congress to do stuff. So sue me.”

“There’s no excuse for police to use excessive force against peaceful protests or to throw protesters in jail for lawfully exercising their First Amendment rights.”

“On Easter, I do reflect on the fact that, as a Christian, I am supposed to love. And I have to say that sometimes, when I listen to less than loving expressions by Christians, I get concerned. But that’s a topic for another day.”

When talking about the Dallas police shooter, a BLM member, "First of all, I think it's very hard to untangle the motives of this shooter."

"Trayvon Martin could have been me 35 years ago."

There are numerous incidents where Obama rushed to judgment to condemn the police, but would always so to refrain rushing to judgment when it was a black person or Muslim.

Dude, you’re really reaching.
 
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I read that he guns were fully auto which makes them illegal since the 80s.

Everyone better stock up on high capacity magazines. I'd say it won't be long until those are a thing of the past.
 

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He said that attacking police for arresting people in Fergusen, you know the people that destroyed private businesses and created havoc for a couple of weeks. And Obama attacks the police without condemning the protesters?

Yes that is divisive. You have to look at the context of these statements.
 
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Hank Camacho

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Bump fire... sounds the same. Gotta say, there is no way these things should be legal.


Yeah. That is literally insane.

And I'm a gun owner who has no problem with people owning stock ARs, etc.

It is absurd that you can legally assemble an automatic machine gun with a 100 round mag. It is a wonder something like this hasn't happened before.

(So help me God, if some dweeb tells me the difference between bump fire and true automatic fire or the difference between an assault rifle and a machine gun, I'll rip your head off.)
 
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That's a pretty weak attempt at a list, but if you don't think Obama was divisive, you've had your head up your *** for the past nine years.

That's the whole damn point of the identity politics the left runs with. Separate people and attempt to marginalize those you disagree with.
 

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Or how about this?

Immediately after Dylan Roof: "The fact that this took place in a black church obviously also raises questions about a dark part of our history. ... We know that hatred across races and faiths (poses) a particular threat to our democracy and our ideals."

Immediately after San Bernadino: "It is possible that this was terrorist-related, but we don't know. It's also possible that this was workplace-related."
 

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After Freddy Gray: "We have some soul-searching to do. This is not new. It's been going on for decades."
 

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It has been reported that he had a tripod. Seems like it would be difficult to bump fire.
Maybe it was an actual fully-automatic rifle then, who knows? It's impossible to tell just by listening to the audio.

I'm just saying that quasi-auto fire can be achieved legally -- and far cheaper with less hassle -- than jumping through the hoops to get a Class-3 license and purchasing an automatic weapon.
 
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