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Karl_Havok

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My guess is Kasak is a no go. I believe this is senior night so I expect to see a couple of seniors get a go as well that haven’t seen the mat. The dual won’t be close regardless.
 

GregPickel

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My guess is Kasak is a no go. I believe this is senior night so I expect to see a couple of seniors get a go as well that haven’t seen the mat. The dual won’t be close regardless.
That's not how they've ever operated. Illness obviously could be a factor. But I don't expect to see anyone in the lineup who usually isn't simply because they are a senior.
 

SleepyLion

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I think Kasak is a no go cause it gives him another week and he doesn't need the match to be the 1 seed at B1Gs or NCAAs
I think he'll be the 2 at B1Gs. He has a loss to Ethan Miller who is undefeated. Although the loss was because of injury it still counts.
 
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Karl_Havok

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That's not how they've ever operated. Illness obviously could be a factor. But I don't expect to see anyone in the lineup who usually isn't simply because they are a senior.

If my memory serves they've typically given some seniors a shot on senior day. Unless I am remembering incorrectly, which is a possibility.
 
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GregPickel

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If my memory serves they've typically given some seniors a shot on senior day. Unless I am remembering incorrectly, which is a possibility.
You are. There may have been times a senior backup filled in for an injured or sick starter on Senior Day, but it wasn't by design in the sense of "we're going to wrestle you only because it's Senior Day."
 

Karl_Havok

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You are. There may have been times a senior backup filled in for an injured or sick starter on Senior Day, but it wasn't by design in the sense of "we're going to wrestle you only because it's Senior Day."

I must've conflated a senior getting a go with them being a senior then. (y)
 
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GregPickel

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I must've conflated a senior getting a go with them being a senior then. (y)
There are even very few instances of that, for what it's worth. And as for the guy getting a go, I clicked back through the last decade, and the only one I can find its Luke Frey for Dylan Alton in 2015 at 157. Frey was actually a junior but was graduating and moving on after the season. I'm sure there are other examples but, the long and short of it is, I don't expect any lineup changes Friday simply based on expiring eligibility.
 

gimb14

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I think he'll be the 2 at B1Gs. He has a loss to Ethan Miller who is undefeated. Although the loss was because of injury it still counts.
Crap, yeah. Mind fart. Teemer in semis is probably tougher than taylor, but I think he'll get his redemption against Miller regardless
 
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WV lion

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Crap, yeah. Mind fart. Teemer in semis is probably tougher than taylor, but I think he'll get his redemption against Miller regardless
Teemer may not get 3rd seed. Taylor from Nebraska has only 1 conference loss and more wins than Teemer.
 
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gimb14

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Teemer may not get 3rd seed. Taylor from Nebraska has only 1 conference loss and more wins than Teemer.
I clearly need to catch up. 🤣 I think Kasak caught Teemer at the right time. Not saying he can't/won't beat him again, but would prefer to avoid him.
 

GregPickel

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Teemer may not get 3rd seed. Taylor from Nebraska has only 1 conference loss and more wins than Teemer.
Yes, but Taylor has to wrestle Blaze from Purdue on Sunday night. Goes without saying but will have major seeding implications at 157. Teemer missing time will play a role, too. Will be very interesting to see how it all plays out.
 

manatree

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You are. There may have been times a senior backup filled in for an injured or sick starter on Senior Day, but it wasn't by design in the sense of "we're going to wrestle you only because it's Senior Day."

I must've conflated a senior getting a go with them being a senior then. (y)

There are even very few instances of that, for what it's worth. And as for the guy getting a go, I clicked back through the last decade, and the only one I can find its Luke Frey for Dylan Alton in 2015 at 157. Frey was actually a junior but was graduating and moving on after the season. I'm sure there are other examples but, the long and short of it is, I don't expect any lineup changes Friday simply based on expiring eligibility.

I do think that the coaches have considered remaining eligibility when selecting which backup to fill in for a starter. Giving a Sr backup the nod over an underclassman that could have a few more chances to fill in.
 

GregPickel

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I do think that the coaches have considered remaining eligibility when selecting which backup to fill in for a starter. Giving a Sr backup the nod over an underclassman that could have a few more chances to fill in.
Perhaps, but just from what I’ve been able to go back and look at, it’s always been the guy they think has the best chance to win regardless of class.
 
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Mstan85

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The only time I've had insider info on PSU wrestling was just before Senior day in 2014. My wife found out from a very reliable source that James English was going to wrestle for PSU for the match. I told her they were just going to wrestle him for senior day, She told me that isn;t what she heard.
 

Tom McAndrew

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At CLE State vs Kent State tonight. Filling up nicely, last home match, maybe ever, for CSU.

Tix = Free. No swag for sale that I can find.

Good for you.

The decision by Cleveland State sucks for the wrestlers in the program, for wrestling in general, and for the coaches, lead by head coach, and former PSU wrestler, Josh Moore.

I hope the crowd shows a lot of appreciation for the wrestlers and the coaches, and also indicates to the administrators what they think of their decision.
 

Rock-man

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Matscout/Rofkin predicts the seeds for Big Tens. - https://rokfin.com/ranking/4806/Projected-Big-Ten-Seed-Sheets
- they place more weight on in-conference record
125 - Luke #4
133 - Davis #6 - only 2-2 in Bigs
141 - Beau #1
149 - VanNess #1
157 - Kasak #2
165 - Mitch #1
174 - Levi #1
184 - Carter #1
197 - Barr #2
285 - Kerk #2

7-8 finalists (Barr needs to beat Cardenas again in semi's), Luke gets Ramos in semi's, Davis would get Braxton Brown - Maryland - in quarters and Lucas Byrd in semi's. I could see Davis getting the 4 or 5 seed though as he is ranked much higher nationally than the 4/5 in Big predictions
 

WV lion

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Matscout/Rofkin predicts the seeds for Big Tens. - https://rokfin.com/ranking/4806/Projected-Big-Ten-Seed-Sheets
- they place more weight on in-conference record
125 - Luke #4
133 - Davis #6 - only 2-2 in Bigs
141 - Beau #1
149 - VanNess #1
157 - Kasak #2
165 - Mitch #1
174 - Levi #1
184 - Carter #1
197 - Barr #2
285 - Kerk #2

7-8 finalists (Barr needs to beat Cardenas again in semi's), Luke gets Ramos in semi's, Davis would get Braxton Brown - Maryland - in quarters and Lucas Byrd in semi's. I could see Davis getting the 4 or 5 seed though as he is ranked much higher nationally than the 4/5 in Big predictions
Like to see lilledahl get 3rd seed. Ramos is a buzz saw this year.
Like to see Davis avoid Byrd until finals, i think he matches up better with Ayala.
Other seeds really don't matter.
 

SRATH

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Good for you.

The decision by Cleveland State sucks for the wrestlers in the program, for wrestling in general, and for the coaches, lead by head coach, and former PSU wrestler, Josh Moore.

I hope the crowd shows a lot of appreciation for the wrestlers and the coaches, and also indicates to the administrators what they think of their decision.
They have a ring announcer for each match, let's get ready to rumble type atmosphere. Gym seemed full, capacity is 3000. Some guys behind me were talking about RTC funding, athletic department budgets etc. Not normal wrestling match talk. Finally around 1/2 way through, I asked the one guy if we could actually save CSU wrestling. He was positive it would happen and pointed me to this site. The Prez is new and looking to make a mark. https://www.saveclevelandstatewrestling.com/

I indicated I would be willing to kick in a little if it would help. He gave me his card and the name sounded familiar. Mike Moyer, Executive Director and Chief of Staff of the National Wrestling Coaches Association. I knew he was a Berks County guy and come to find out he graduated high school with my wife at Wilson. Of course I am Mifflin so we laughed about having probably yelled at each other at sporting events and chatted about mutual acquaintances. The good Lord was working to put two guys together on a night in Cleveland.

Cleveland State won the last two bouts and finished ahead 21-15. Turns out they call this the backyard brawl........

The snow/ice coming home was a real pain. See everyone tonight in SC.
 

razpsu

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It’s a shame that kerk who is the reigning national and big ten champ and undefeated is not number 1.
 
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manatree

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Am I crrect that 55-0 is their record biggest win?

I think our largest margin of victory is 55-0 which we’ve done three times. Buffalo in 17-18, Edinboro in 23-24, and Michigan State back in January.
 

GregPickel

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I think our largest margin of victory is 55-0 which we’ve done three times. Buffalo in 17-18, Edinboro in 23-24, and Michigan State back in January.
As far back as I can go online, you are correct!
 

manatree

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As far back as I can go online, you are correct!
Back after the Wyoming dual, I dug up a media guide online. I have a vague recollection that Buffalo didn’t bring all of their starters due to the flu.