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Jeffrey Cat

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Tough competition. Shoot for fourth!
Your post seems to mention that Clarkston doesn’t play anyone. Clarkston was the Michigan Class A Champion in Michigan two out of the last three years. Two of the members of the state championship teams are playing for MSU now. Foster Loyer and Thomas Kithier. Nicholson succeeded Kithier on last years team which I believe was very good and this is his senior year.
 

NUCat320

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Your post seems to mention that Clarkston doesn’t play anyone. Clarkston was the Michigan Class A Champion in Michigan two out of the last three years. Two of the members of the state championship teams are playing for MSU now. Foster Loyer and Thomas Kithier. Nicholson succeeded Kithier on last years team which I believe was very good and this is his senior year.
Nope. I voted.
Somebody has 4,800 votes. Next two have 2,700 and 2,100 votes.

Current fourth place has 140 votes. Nicholson has 23 votes. Then there are four more below him.

I hope Nicholson finishes in fourth place.
 
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Your post seems to mention that Clarkston doesn’t play anyone. Clarkston was the Michigan Class A Champion in Michigan two out of the last three years. Two of the members of the state championship teams are playing for MSU now. Foster Loyer and Thomas Kithier. Nicholson succeeded Kithier on last years team which I believe was very good and this is his senior year.

Kithier transferred to Clarkston his senior year but didn't play. He ran afoul of transfer rules.

Clarkston year in, year out is one of the top programs in the state. Their players are always fundamentally sound and know how to play by the time they're in high school. They should make a good run for the state title, even though Emoni Bates and his crew at Ypsilanti Lincoln will have a say. But you never know; tournament basketball is a different animal.

Don't take the score as representative of the typical competition. Clarkston plays in the Oakland Activities Association Red division, which is one of the top conferences in the state; even OAA White, one rung down, is really good. They play Farmington tonight, with NU recruit Jaden Akins, and have an OOC game this Friday against Orchard Lake St. Mary's, another state contender. Julian Roper, a 2021 with an offer from NU, plays for OLSM.
 
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I was there. Packed house. OLSM’s starting five are likely all D1-bound. Julian Roper has an NU offer and looked good, though he didn’t show much of an outside shot. NU has looked at Nwoke but he’s a project. They pretty much stopped challenging Nicholson in the second half. Nicholson looked really solid on defense, finding the open man and finishing. He clearly has a huge advantage in most matchups and I think they should be dumping the ball to him much more than they do.
 
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Smolmania

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Love the way he uses both hands to block shots, and keeps his feet until it’s actually time to jump.
 

Napcat

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Now listed at 7'1", had 27 rebounds in win last weekend and name is being mentioned as potential Michigan HS player of year candidate.
 

TheC

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Now listed at 7'1", had 27 rebounds in win last weekend and name is being mentioned as potential Michigan HS player of year candidate.
If only his name were Tacko, then we'd really be on to something!
 
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While I think the transition for him to the college level will be a very big change (and most likely a RS candidate) - i think he has some raw size and athleticism different from anyone at NU in a long time, maybe ever?
 

NUCat320

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While I think the transition for him to the college level will be a very big change (and most likely a RS candidate) - i think he has some raw size and athleticism different from anyone at NU in a long time, maybe ever?
His size reminds me of Vince Scott (ducks)
 

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While I think the transition for him to the college level will be a very big change (and most likely a RS candidate) - i think he has some raw size and athleticism different from anyone at NU in a long time, maybe ever?
How quickly you forget Kyle Rowley.

Seriously, maybe Evan Eschmeyer is the closest thing over the past 25 years.
 

freewillie07

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While I think the transition for him to the college level will be a very big change (and most likely a RS candidate) - i think he has some raw size and athleticism different from anyone at NU in a long time, maybe ever?

Will be interesting to see. After the way this season is going, with what’s shaping up to be a very bad overall record, I wonder if Collins can afford to redshirt anyone who could play impact minutes.
 
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Will be interesting to see. After the way this season is going, with what’s shaping up to be a very bad overall record, I wonder if Collins can afford to redshirt anyone who could play impact minutes.

tough to say. would it be better if the two centers this year were young with pardon and CCC was red-shirting jones? will year 5 better for jones if he had vs. what he is getting this year? it pardon didn't play halfway through his freshman year he'd be on the team still. nicholson could be the same way. 5-10 minutes now vs. 25 in year 5?
 

IdahoAlum

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tough to say. would it be better if the two centers this year were young with pardon and CCC was red-shirting jones? will year 5 better for jones if he had vs. what he is getting this year? it pardon didn't play halfway through his freshman year he'd be on the team still. nicholson could be the same way. 5-10 minutes now vs. 25 in year 5?
With the portal, grad transfer option and "transfer mania" being what it is, I'm not sure I'd redshirt anybody these days. Why invest four years in a kid so he can go off and play his senior year somewhere else?
 

NUCat320

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With the portal, grad transfer option and "transfer mania" being what it is, I'm not sure I'd redshirt anybody these days. Why invest four years in a kid so he can go off and play his senior year somewhere else?
Because you have confidence in further positive development of your program — both on-court results and culture.

Falzon and Ash knew they wouldn’t see the court. Benson would have, but he knew he couldn’t compete.

To me, Nicholson shows too much upside (granted, I’ve only read) to sit next season. That said, if Jones and Young can carry the load (jury’s still out, of course) it’s not the worst thing.

If Pardon didn’t play as a freshman, I’m not sure he takes the team to the dance as a sophomore.
 

Jonny2TheP

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He added 20 lbs and is a candidate for Michigan's Mr. Basketball per the Detroit News article

(anyone know what's going with the Detroit Free Press....did they return to 7 days/week printing)

Regarding the Free Press, they are still a daily. I work in media and we do some work with newspapers. Per information I have, they have continued to be a daily. They are owned by Gannett (which is in the process of being acquired by GateHouse- but will keep the Gannett name), which is one of the large newspaper ownership groups that has actually tried to keep their dailies publishing seven days a week. With the acquisition, not sure if that will change though.
 

freewillie07

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tough to say. would it be better if the two centers this year were young with pardon and CCC was red-shirting jones? will year 5 better for jones if he had vs. what he is getting this year? it pardon didn't play halfway through his freshman year he'd be on the team still. nicholson could be the same way. 5-10 minutes now vs. 25 in year 5?

Right. But Pardon did play his freshman year, because injuries happen. I’m just not sure you can count on redshirting anyone with any level of certainty.

Plus, Nicholson is tall and looks like a legit shot blocker. That’s a different element than Young or Jones bring to the table.
 

hdhntr1

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tough to say. would it be better if the two centers this year were young with pardon and CCC was red-shirting jones? will year 5 better for jones if he had vs. what he is getting this year? it pardon didn't play halfway through his freshman year he'd be on the team still. nicholson could be the same way. 5-10 minutes now vs. 25 in year 5?
With Nicholson coming, not sure not having Jones for a 5th year really hurts that much
 

Medill90

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With the portal, grad transfer option and "transfer mania" being what it is, I'm not sure I'd redshirt anybody these days. Why invest four years in a kid so he can go off and play his senior year somewhere else?

Interesting thought.

I think Collins has only lost one underclassman that he recruited, IIRC.
 

GOUNUII

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The article also says he's now 7'1" tall......

Finally had a chance to do some homework on the big guy. And I think he’s got a chance to be good. Really good.

Very good hands for a young big. Runs very well. Will have good foot work with coaching and repetitions. Has a relatively broad view and solid understanding of the game. Will get much larger and stronger over the next couple of years. Really just scratching the surface at this tender age. Has as much or more upside to grow and make an impact as any new recruit I can recall in my 40+ years of following NU hoops recruiting.

As with all of these newcomers I have no idea what kind of mental game he’s bringing to Evanston. But I see the physical tools and raw skills to project a strong starter by his junior year at 7 foot plus and 250+ lbs. Could become special if he develops offensively and plays with serious intent.

Collins has done well in getting Beran, Jones, Buie, Nicholson and Berry of late. But still needs a strong 2021 class to complete the task of reloading a roster in need of more good players.

GOUNUII
 

hdhntr1

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Because you have confidence in further positive development of your program — both on-court results and culture.

Falzon and Ash knew they wouldn’t see the court. Benson would have, but he knew he couldn’t compete.

To me, Nicholson shows too much upside (granted, I’ve only read) to sit next season. That said, if Jones and Young can carry the load (jury’s still out, of course) it’s not the worst thing.

If Pardon didn’t play as a freshman, I’m not sure he takes the team to the dance as a sophomore.
A big part of that is how well you can continue to recruit. While Bigs do tend to do better RS, if you recruit well enough, it does not matter. And with all the injuries that occur these days, good chance you will still get to RS them later.
 

hdhntr1

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Will be interesting to see. After the way this season is going, with what’s shaping up to be a very bad overall record, I wonder if Collins can afford to redshirt anyone who could play impact minutes.
And if Jones/ Young can develop more into a PF as well, you still get to get everyone plenty of minutes
 

willycat

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Finally had a chance to do some homework on the big guy. And I think he’s got a chance to be good. Really good.

Very good hands for a young big. Runs very well. Will have good foot work with coaching and repetitions. Has a relatively broad view and solid understanding of the game. Will get much larger and stronger over the next couple of years. Really just scratching the surface at this tender age. Has as much or more upside to grow and make an impact as any new recruit I can recall in my 40+ years of following NU hoops recruiting.

As with all of these newcomers I have no idea what kind of mental game he’s bringing to Evanston. But I see the physical tools and raw skills to project a strong starter by his junior year at 7 foot plus and 250+ lbs. Could become special if he develops offensively and plays with serious intent.

Collins has done well in getting Beran, Jones, Buie, Nicholson and Berry of late. But still needs a strong 2021 class to complete the task of reloading a roster in need of more good players.

GOUNUII
Are there any previous good NU big men that he compares too? Obviously Esch would be #1 but who else? Pardon? Olah? Rankin? Morris? Ruklick? Pitts?
 

NUera

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Are there any previous good NU big men that he compares too? Obviously Esch would be #1 but who else? Pardon? Olah? Rankin? Morris? Ruklick? Pitts?

Luka Mirkovic

(honestly I have no idea. I just felt like typing his name.)