Think it would do all good to read his letter!! Nothing wrong to express frustration ect. But we need to be careful what we say and not take it out on players..
Max Godby.
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The coaches get paid good money. This is on them. Yeah the players messed up at times but they have a lot on their shoulders. And when the coaches are clueless, can't fault the players for being clueless too
I agree with what he said for the most part. We know the players worked hard to get where they are. We know they have to go through early workouts and hot summer practices. We get all that. Understanding what the players go through doesn't mean 65k fans should be there because the players worked hard in the summer. If a fan doesn't want to go to a game because he doesn't want to support the staff or wants to inspire change, then they should. It's not meant to disrespect the players. If I don't like the food at a restaurant I shouldn't be expected to keep going because I know my waitress did her best to make sure I was taken care of.
And also, I graduated from UK recently. I remember seeing several UK players at Two Keys the night they lost a road game, in convincing fashion as well. Max was not among one of those players, mind you, but what does that say about the players? What he said about certain individuals is true, but there also some who haven't given UK their best effort either. I don't want to sound like I think the players owe me anything, they don't. However, I do think they owe UK and their teammates especially their best effort and going out the night after you got spanked is not the best idea.
And also, I graduated from UK recently. I remember seeing several UK players at Two Keys the night they lost a road game, in convincing fashion as well. Max was not among one of those players, mind you, but what does that say about the players? What he said about certain individuals is true, but there also some who haven't given UK their best effort either. I don't want to sound like I think the players owe me anything, they don't. However, I do think they owe UK and their teammates especially their best effort and going out the night after you got spanked is not the best idea.
The coaches are getting paid to suck at their job. Stoops is over here stealing Millions every year. He did just a good enough sales pitch to Mitch in order to be one of the biggest theives this country has to offer. They do not have my loyalty.
I hate when I am told to be easy on a person because they are given over $100,000 in free education, all the benefits that none of the rest of us received, have the best physical trainers, have the best tudors, have an amazing free meal plan, get free clothes, have the best dorms, are allowed to register first and miss class and we expect them to produce.
I guess I am demanding too much when I worked 40 hours a week to pay my way thru college.
I guess I am demanding too much when I worked 40 hours a week to pay my way thru college.
I doubt there is much that is sadder than a 40 year old man criticizing a 20 year old man for his play on a football field and feeling justified because he never got a scholarship for flipping burgers.
Oh boy. So much to say but I won't.
But forgive me as I reserve my sympathy for the student thats a single mom, working two jobs barely scraping by, and trying to better herself and her family. The university is full of em.
Compared to the majority of college students, div 1 athletes have it made.
But forgive me as I reserve my sympathy for the student thats a single mom, working two jobs barely scraping by, and trying to better herself and her family. The university is full of em.
Compared to the majority of college students, div 1 athletes have it made.
I'm not saying i agree with everything. But i do think we need to support the players the best we can.And not put things out for public to see thats degrading.. Criticism is fair at times done respectfully.. But call guys lazy fat bucket of lard ect is uncalled for and childish.. Far as boycotting to get rid of a coach most people expect empty stadiums when fan bases turn on coach.
Having said that im giving stoops the opportunity to win me back thru the rest of the season.. Not as much in number of wins. But more in quality of performance .. If there is change to be made i think we need to make sure its the right move this time. Firing or boycotting this early will do nothing but hurt the football program. You could see a mass exit.
I like and support our players and if change is made i want them to stay and help us build better program..
Just a few thoughts..
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Whatsup Mr. 6-6 or 7-5?? I see you don't like to eat crow. Not surprised. Quite frankly idk how people like you aren't tired of sucking. Cuz I'm freaking fed up with us being terrible at football man. I just want a coach who can win not this hot steamy pile of stoops poops.
Honestly I was a part of several bad UK football seasons. I never once wanted to blame fans for not coming. I played because I loved the sport and competition. I wasn't on scholarship but UK helped me on and off the field till this day.
Yeah, we can slam college football players because there are single moms working their way thru college. Not sure how there is any connection between the two.
I've never once bashed any players. I support the team. Just the whole "everybody's a victim" these days is played out.
I don't think college football players are victims any more than I think college football fans are victims.
I agree but the letter is to fans to help us understand the plight and hardships of the college athlete and how that should negate criticism etc. Truth is the student athlete life is 1000 times better than most of those people sitting in the stands. Fans have expectations because they have invested money and time in the program as well. If there's any one to blame, blame the university and the NCAA for creating the environment and pimping the players and financially robbing the fans while fattening their pockets.
The student athlete life is 1000 times better. That is bull. Do you know the stories of some of these kids? Blaming the college for making money has nothing to do with the class you show to a kid trying to bust his butt to give you exactly what you want as a fan. No connection whatsoever.
Now we see the fans as the victims? Not buying it. I am as disappointed as any fan, but taking it out on a college kid who worked hard for what he received is juvenile. Rationalizing that by claiming the college is to blame for such behavior is sad.
And I've yet to see anyone anywhere bashing any players specifically. The bulk of the criticism has been directed towards the staff who are grown men, who make millions by the way.
And it's not a fans vs players thing at all. 99 percent of us love these players and would gladly trade places with them when we're that age.
And not to bust your bubble, but these players don't bust their *** for me or you. They do it for them and the school as they should.
He likes to argue man. When he's not picking an argument he's trying to belittle people by pretending he is smarter then they are.
That is good to hear. Matt Elam, Kobie Walker, Blake McClain and others will be happy to see that confirmed.
You're obsessed with me. I am flattered. You act like it is difficult to make you look stupid. Lol!
every thread I look at your in that thread making a jab at someone or starting some kind of bull crap. There you go again mr internet tough guy. You have a bad night playing dungeons and dragons tonight buddy? Lol
Cough cough. Weez.
Be gentle, I have been sick. lol
Why don't you stalk someone else?
How does someone stalk someone that is posting crap in every thread I look at? Your all over the place posting your ramblings of pure bull crap. You spend more time being mr grammar police then talking about football.
They entered college football at a school that plays most of its games on the ESPN family networks. They knew they'd be in the public eye. They can be criticized for their play. That's more than fair. You don't see many people that criticize individual players in terms of who they are as people. No one is saying Blake McClain is a bad guy. We all know he wanted to make that interception and I'm sure no one feels worse than him. Doesn't mean people are not allowed to say he should've caught it or that it was a huge play in the game.
Commenting on their is play is different than attempting humor at their expense or making exaggerated comments about them. Coming to a school that is shown on the ESPN family should not dictate how respectfully people choos their comments.
Nothing wrong with the players they just, for the most part, don't belong in the SEC. That's why you don't see Bama on their offer list. If you did they would have gone there and so would have the rest of us.
A problem is we expect or wish they all would be able to play like big time SEC recruits. So do they and the coaches. Most of our players would be very good in lower divisions but lets face it. The majority, not all by any means, don't belong in the deep end of the SEC football pool.
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0-1 is much different than 6-6 or 7-5...you have to be one of the most if not the most ignorant posters on this board. I mean your moniker says it all.
I might agree with some of the negative among you if we were talking about a pro team.
But we are talking about our UK Wildcats here. I have to support our boys (and girls) as much as I can. I can't even imagine looking up at an empty stadium as a player and how that must feel. Yes, they have great opportunities by being athletes, but they bust their asses working for it.....to entertain US. Two a days and classes when most of their classmates are drinking PBR and playing XBOX, and sleeping until noon.
Support the kids, and show up.
But we are talking about our UK Wildcats here. I have to support our boys (and girls) as much as I can. I can't even imagine looking up at an empty stadium as a player and how that must feel. Yes, they have great opportunities by being athletes, but they bust their asses working for it.....to entertain US. Two a days and classes when most of their classmates are drinking PBR and playing XBOX, and sleeping until noon.
Support the kids, and show up.
First. They're not kids. They're young adults. 18-23 year olds
Secondly, it's a business. The school looks at this way. The players look at this way. Yes they love our support, but tell me youre not naive enough to think theyre doing this for you. The players are being compensated and rewarded in many various ways for their services and in ways that will have a lasting effect long after college. And yes, they're not a pro team but let's not think this is Pop Warner or kids playing at the high school ball field either. Who built that 70,000 seat stadium anyway? And why?Multi million dollar practice facility? Spends millions of dollars on coaching contracts even after coaches are gone and coaching somewhere else?! In my opinion, players should be financially benefitting as well. It's the last piece of the puzzle of calling division one athletics what they really are...which is already professional in almost every aspect.
So fans do have a right to mad. Fans do have a right to not to allow themselves to be gouged at every turn by the university. You can't create a professional environment, benefit from it, and then expect fans to show the same type of support they would for the kid that can't seem to ever catch the football down at the little league field. It just doesn't work that way.
And lastly, why bash any player? Criticize play, yes. But let's not make it personal.
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Young adults or kids, go hang with some for a while and see how it feels to live in their world, if you cannot remember. They are not a business. They are students who work their asses off on the football field, are struggling with self image and potential failure, have school and new relationships to deal with, etc. The fact that college sports is a big industry and a lot of people pay to see them play is irrelevant.
Quit asking fans to pay for their tickets, boosters to pay $100k for suites, etc. and then talk to us about not caring so much.
Actually, fans are going to get their football-life balance figured out due to the pitiful performance of this football program. Part of which will be people simply spending their time and money on things that actually bring them joy as opposed to watching a collection of clueless coaches with a team that seems to be mentally fragile to the point of quitting on demand at the first sign of trouble.
Actually, fans are going to get their football-life balance figured out due to the pitiful performance of this football program. Part of which will be people simply spending their time and money on things that actually bring them joy as opposed to watching a collection of clueless coaches with a team that seems to be mentally fragile to the point of quitting on demand at the first sign of trouble.
I haven't seen people commenting on anything other than their play. I'm sure there are doe folks that cross the line. The vast majority comment on the play as football players, and that's fair. It should be expected. When people call Matt Elam lazy, it's because he looks like he gives no effort on the field. No one is saying, "Oh that Matt Elam, I bet he is a terrible friend." I agree with you that comments can go overboard, and those are wrong, but that's not my point. My point is that the players are not above criticism because they work hard in the offseason.
The letter made it seem like Max was wanting fans not to comment directly on an individual's play. In my opinion, that's nonsense. When a player plays well, we talk about that too. Should it only be positive things we say about players? If so, it'll be more like a 4th grade music class recital than honest discussion about football.
Struggling with self image? New relationships? Boo hoo
Well done.:clap: Took me longer than it should've to realize you're just trolling.
Agree. I think it is fair to say a player hasn't developed, hasn't lived up to his recruiting rankings, or makes the same schematic mistakes over and over. I don't think it is fair or right to say someone flat out 'sucks' or that they're 'nothing but a fat tub of goo'. That's just me - just because it's become the norm on sports forums and social media doesn't mean you have to engage in it. I'm no saint - I cuss the crap out of players to my buddies via text or over beers, stuff like that. But I'm not going to use that type of comment on Twitter or Cats Illustrated.
The coaches have not gotten it done thus far but I don't think a lack of success equates to 'stealing millions'. If they were pulling 37-40 hour weeks and playing in golf scrambles and not working I would say that. Best I can tell, what they're doing isn't working but it doesn't seem to be from a lack of trying.
I just want to see the team improve and hopefully find a way to win 6. I won't consider that a huge accomplishment but it does equate to being able to win 7 and get a dozen or so more practices in. They need all the reps they can get.