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DowntownDawg

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....if anybody listened to the call-in show Monday night, Croom got absolutely roasted. Call after call was about 4th and 15, and while sort of halfway admitting he was wrong ("After we didn't make it, I told the guys on the headset 'I probably shouldnt've done that'"), he also said "I might do it again. I was tired of waiting on something to happen. I wanted to <span style="font-style: italic;">make</span> something happen."

The most entertaining portion was when a caller told Croom that his old coach was 'flipping in his grave' over the 4th and 15 call. The same guy challenged him to take responsibility for the game and not to put it on the players and called Croom out for calling McCrae out on that interception. The next call was the one in which the caller asked if Croom had any plans to replace McCorvey. Unfortunately, the guy was up against the break, so Croom had the commercial to think about his answer. When the show came back, he gave a long winded answer about the offense that revealed (for the first time to me) the 4 schools that they visited - <span style="font-weight: bold;">Michigan</span> (figures), <span style="font-weight: bold;">Oklahoma</span> (suprised), <span style="font-weight: bold;">Houston<span style="font-weight: bold;"><span style="font-weight: bold;">,</span></span></span> and last and certainly least <span style="font-weight: bold;">Texas A&M</span>. He also went on to say that he is involved in every aspect of the offense and that when he decided that the offense needed changing, he would change the man in charge of the offense: "me." What bothered me about this is that he had time to think about this answer and it wasn't a hot headed spur of the moment after the game type deal. I turned the thing off in disgust after that. I cannot believe that anybody would mortgage his team's success and his own coaching career on any particular offensive scheme. It boggles the mind, and there's not much silver lining to be taken from that statement.

The prospects of our offense getting better under Croom are about as likely as Croom all of the sudden becoming a good game day coach: close to zero. And sadly, any talk of Borges or any other OC coming in is pretty much nill, at least according to Croom. Maybe he is just blowing smoke. We'll see.
 
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RebelBruiser

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That's about what I expected. Basically he's telling you that he's the one in charge of the offense, not McCorvey, which is what I think most people have been wondering for a while.

That means that getting rid of McCorvey wouldn't do a whole lot for you. In fact, if he were forced to fire McCorvey, which I don't think will happen, he'd probably just replace him with another figurehead OC that would let him control the offense.

It's a little bit like Orgeron was with hiring John Thompson. He finally caved in to hiring a DC, but he was still the one primarily behind the defensive calls and schemes. It didn't matter who he hired, the defense was going to look the same. That's what I think is going on with your offense. It doesn't matter who your OC is, your offense won't look any different while Croom is there.

I just can't believe he's so stubborn about his "system". That would be my biggest concern if I was an MSU fan. You might get lucky and happen to land the right personnel to make your system work, but it'll only work temporarily. You have to be able to make adjustments to keep your system working, and I don't think Croom is capable of that.
 
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DowntownDawg

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...two things would have to happen for it to get much better: 1) Hire another OC and 2) Turn the control of the offense over him. You would think that they would just automatically happen together, but because of his stubbornness, they are two very separate issues.
 
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is that both Croom and McCorvey are calling plays. Whenever the offense sucks, Croom takes the heat and says he is calling the plays and when we actually do well, it's Woody.
 
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croom is his own worst enemy. sooner or later it will end up costing him his job and it will be his fault. we have one of the top denfenses in the sec but that means nothing if you can't pass or run the ball.
 
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DowntownDawg

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..McCorvey calls the intial plays and Croom hears them on the headset and can veto the play. Or essentially, McCorvey suggests a play and Croom approves or changes it. Which is probably why we take forever to snap the thing.
 
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DowntownDawg

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...to add to our "offense." I think both Croom and Rich are finding out that the spread option is more effective when Pat White and Steve Slaton are running it than say, Carroll and Dixon.
 
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the offense - his offense, whatever that means. It's not as if he's been successful and we're going through a downturn, say like Spurrier. He's willing to let his coaching career go down with the ship for an offense that hasn't done **** during his tenure as a head coach! At some point you've got to think survival instinct sinks in and he relinquishes control. He can be a decent head coach (his game management skills still suck) if he would just swallow his pride.

I cannot believe that anybody would mortgage his team's success and his own coaching career on any particular offensive scheme.
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This is why Tubberville is one of the best coaches in the nation - he'll ditch a coach in a heart beat if he thinks he can do better.
 
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Croom was hired and one of the FIRST things out of his face was... " We are gonna run the WCO!!!" He initiated the entire thing, has been talking about it for 5-years now, has made excuse after excuse as to the issues with it NOT working... ie. not enough time to install all the COMPLICATED ASPECTS of it , not the right personnel, opening up the play-book, CLOSING UP the playbook....and so on and so on ......Let me make this perfectly clear!!!!

<font color="#CC0033">HE WILL GO DOWN WITH THE SHIP AND TAKE OUR FOOTBALL PROGRAM WITH HIM BEFORE HE CANS THE WCO......HE WILL NOT FIRE ANY OC THAT AGREES TO RUN IT, AND FURTHER MORE.......AS LONG AS HE IS OUR HEAD COACH AND MAINTAINS THIS ATTITUDE (see beginning of this thread) WE WILL CONTINUE TO SUFFER THROUGH THIS TYPE OF OFFENSIVE DISPLAY OF FOOTBALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

</font><font color="#000"> We are screwed and there is nothing we can do but wait for a VERY NASTY situation to evolve....we will become the first universtiy in the SEC to HIRE an African American coach and probably the frist one to FIRE an African American coach.... and belive me.....it will cost us DEARLY in the long run....I would have preferred the death penalty as to what MAY transpire over the next few years........</font>
 
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I say to hell with it and fire him anyways you can't let some guy fool around with as much money as football brings in just because he doesn't want to run anything else but the WCO.
 
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That's not what he was quoted as saying in the Sun Herald...

...Croom chose to go for it on fourth-and-15 with about four minutes left, a curious decision at best.

"I didn't know if we could get the ball back," Croom said.

4 minutes left in the game? how many time outs did we have left? And the way our D was playing, he didn't think we would get the ball back?
 
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Todd4State

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my only guess was he was talking about June Jones version or Urban Meyer's version? I don't understand that either.
 
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