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gravedigger

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1. Our win today does NOT indicate how we'll play against the rest of the sec....reason....they played like crap.
2. Their loss doesnt mean they are over rated...reason...basketball isnt like football. You can bounce back and prove one game as an abberation. PLUS they looked well coached. I will say the announcers MADE STANS look like a genious by giving him credit for running bost in to create and draw fouls, but I say that the chances are Bost made that decision.
3. Their gym has not been that difficult for us to win in over the years.
4. They look like a tournament team. Meaning they contribute up and down the bench. We look like we are waiting on Cody, Barry or Ravern to sink the next three before we are going to move one damn inch away from the ball on offense.

Sorry. I love to make Ole Miss fans feel bad and seemingly, today would be a great opportunity. But I didnt come away from this game thinking we proved the critics wrong. I came away thinking we should be given credit for hanging around a good basketball team and they f'd up and let us win.
 

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you missed the stat about AKs record at home (roughly 60-7, give or take i cant remember exactly)...winning on the road is huge no matter how you do it, i think it tells a lot about how the rest of the season will go, this was arguably the toughest road game on our schedule
 

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Bost and Varnado stepped up and beat them. That's what happened.

Sure, its just one game, but you don't just go on the road in conf and overcome a 9 pt 2nd half deficit b/c the other team screwed up.
 

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gravedigger

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I cant remember one thing in your post that I just read except that red panties look great. You did say that didnt you?

But I do know Kennedy is hard to beat at home. I'm just saying that their gym doesnt have the difficulty of winning in as Arkansas, Alabama, Vandy.

**edited to say I think it's more than that. They didnt shoot the ball well and failed to guard us on the perimeter early which is why they had to overcome a 12 pt deficit. We failed to play defense for the 1st 20 minutes and since they didnt light it up from the 3 pt line late, we won.

We are not a better team than Ole Miss. We shot better today.
 

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impressed you the most? The lack of adjusting to the zone or the lack of adjusting to Bost pentrating?

I mean, holy ****.
 

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We'll have games where they look like world-beaters and then I'm afraid that they'll drop a couple bad ones too. The good news is that I think that MSU is good enough defensively and rebounding the ball that they'll be in just about every game, but they're also so inconsistent on offense that we'll have some problems all season long.

One thing I will say is that it was nice seeing Riek come in and not look completely lost.
 

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by basically making us do what we didnt want to do.

He used a much less talented team to do it with. Bost doesnt take the game in his own hands by forcing the issue and hitting the free throws we lose and lose royally.

Ole Miss isnt THAT much less talented than us, but they are enough less talented to prove that COACHING is the difference.

Swap coaches and MSU wins by 30 today.
 

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after we went to a zone and Bost started taking it to the rim? Stansbury doesn't get credit for that? Kennedy was the coach that didn't adjust at the end of the game, not Stansbury.

I don't really care what happens at the 10 minute mark of the first half if we adjust and win.

And what about the fact that we shut down Warren and White almost completely on their home court? We did something right defensively.
 

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so to you coaching is the difference b/w two comparably talented teams and we won at their place in a conf where road wins are difficult to come by.

And your conlcusion from that is that Kennedy is a far superior coach?
 

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gravedigger said:
Bost doesnt take the game in his own hands by forcing the issue and hitting the free throws we lose and lose royally.

Ole Miss isnt THAT much less talented than us, but they are enough less talented to prove that COACHING is the difference.

Swap coaches and MSU wins by 30 today.
But Bost did take the game over and your boy AK had no answer for it, and on d we made a change and once again AK had no answer for it...i really have no idea what game you were watching

i have mixed feeling on stans but today it was Rick 2, AK 0
 

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but enough. We should be better. We should win at both places with the difference in talent. But the reason they entered the game ranked and us not, the reason they were favored by 15 with the realtime rpi and the reason we have lost to teams we should not have and they have only lost to teams that are better is that we are not coached as well.

Cry about it, quote me every stat you can think of. If the coaches are switched, UM loses by 30.
 

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You were posting about todays game.

Now all of the sudden you are talking about the year to date.

As for talent, its debatable who has more talent. Their guards are more talented than ours. Our post players are better than theirs. Its pretty much a draw.

By 30? Hows this for stats, go find me the number of times the road team has won by 30 in conference play over the last 5 years. Hell, by 20.
 

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Swap coaches and MSU wins by 30 today.
First, we get you will not allow yourself to enjoy this victory (I don't know why & don't want to know why).

But then you took it too far with this nutty statement.

I don't know if this is your way of praising Kennedy or bashing Stansbury.

Regardless, it's a pretty stupid statement.
 

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Ravern may be one of the best shooters in the conference. We have significantly more talent than they do. Do they have a good team? sure, but we have talent and depth.

I don't like bashing Stans but its hard not to when we constantly underachieve. Do you think we are better than 13 and 3 right now or not? Same as in years past. We always lose games that we shouldn't.

Stans record against the top 25 is miserable. top 50 isn't much better. If we were talking about 3 or 4 seasons, i'd give a little more, but for 11 years he has underachieved. 11 years in a row.
 

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Im arguing against everyone who thinks that Andy Kennedy is this great coach when he's done nothing. They have a guard with NBA talent, they have Warren who is an All SEC type player that can shoot and put it on the floor, and they have Polynice who is a defensive stopper and at times, a mismatch offensively.

We have no NBA talent at the guard.

To say we are significantly more talented than them is something I just don't agree with.

Kennedy had 2 all sec guards last year and didn't even make the NIT. Most times, they look just as clueless on offense as we do. They are 2 miraculous comebacks against bad teams from having 5 losses right now.

And for a poster to act like Kennedy coaching our team would make us 30 points better today is just assinine.

Lets at least wait for the guy to accomplish something.
 

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I agree, if someone says OM has "significantly" less talent than us, they either have an agenda against Stans or just can't recognize talent.
They are far superior to us at guard, even w/ Bost's game today, I think Warren might be a better overall talent. But we have a 2 guard w/ no DI offers while theirs is a possible NBA player. The difference in our 2 guards is enormous.
 

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3. Their gym has not been that difficult for us to win in over the years.
Coming into the game today, we had lost 3 of the last 4 times in Oxford, with the only victory being a 2 point win last year.. Look man, I'll bash Stans just as much as the next guy, but today was a quality win on the road against the 2nd biggest crowd in their history against a team who is arguably as talented if not more talented than us. It's one thing to be a critic of Stans, which I am. But it's another thing to be a fan of Ole Miss, which is exactly what you sound like.