Maybe Cohen is a mistake......

Todd4State

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my dad is one of them. In his words, "Look around. Polk built ALL of this." And while that's true, and Polk deserves the credit for that, those same people aren't objective enough to see when he's run his course. I suspect it's like that everywhere. Ask FSU fans about Bowden.

So don't be so hard on our "dumbass" fan base because they are too loyal. It's the guys wanting to fire Cohen right now, and to a lesser degree Stansbury, that I believe are real dumbshits here.



1. They begged him to come back in 1992 when he WANTED to leave. If a coach wants to leave, you let him go. Instead, we went through a short period of being average, which was a step below what we were on our worst years, minus 1982. We certainly could have had just about anyone- like a guy named Augie Garrido in 1992, and ol Lar probably wouldn't have had to break the bank.

2. What did I hear in the stands during the entire Pat McMahon era? Everytime something would go wrong- "Well that wouldn't have happened if Ron was still here." And this guy was Polk's chosen successor. I really believe that Pat left in part because he was tired of hearing "What Ron would do". Program is still in pretty good shape at this point. Coming off of a SR.

3. So LT does the status quo thing and brings back Ron Polk. In the meantime everyone is building better facilities and recruiting our pants off- including Ole Miss. It was obvious that there was a diffence in talent except to the sheep who apparently thought that "Ron will get his players in here" all the while ignoring the fact that Ron's classes sucked royal ***. Except for maybe the one with Ed Easley, Matt Lea, and Mitch Moreland in it . And then when he has left a steaming heap of dung at the stadium that bears his name, they want to hire the guy who has no experience, helped bring in said suck *** classes, and then go apeshit when Cohen says that the guys that he brought in can't pitch when the stats showed that they can't.

So, yeah, I'd say that if they all followed Ron Polk off of a cliff, it probably wouldn't be the worst thing in the world for MSU baseball. And at the very least, maybe some of those ridiculous lifetime contracts would come open and some people could actually watch the game in the grandstands.

I'm not saying that the fans should get all of the blame, but they certainly encouraged some very negative things towards the program that have almost competely ruined it.
 

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and after getting swept the x number of times you rescinded your statement?

pretty sure I remember the OM crowd all over you about that since you want to bring up old, dumb ****.
 

AceLeroy

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I am not calling for Cohen to be fired.

I am hoping that He turns out to be the coach I thought He was when He was hired.

I am pleased with his recruiting efforts.

I am justdisappointed with the on the field product up to this point.

I get it that He was handed a talent poor team by SEC standards. There weresome good players , but not enough of them.

I guess the biggest thing with megoes back to the base running and how bad it was last year. Evenat the end of last season , We were still doing things like makingunforced outs at the plate for the first out of an inning. Now this year We get beat by a guy stealing home? I understand Cohen can't make these guys hit, throw or catch any better than they are capable of , but He should be able to install smart baseball into the team.

Again , I was 100% behind the hiring of Cohen and am not giving up on him. As I said though , running into unforcedouts and allowing teams to beat you by stealing home leaves an odor of a team that is not well coached. I know Cohen can't wave a wand and make guys hit .400 or have an era of 2.50 , but base running is a lot more about playing smart than it is about having talent. I find it troubling that the bad base running went on all year long without being corrected.</p>
 

Todd4State

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but that was LAST season. This season that has improved. I know in the Rhode Island series, one of the games we won becuase of our aggressive baserunning. People only notice when someone gets thrown out, they don't notice as much when they score. A lot of being aggressive is also about attitude.


And as far as the guy stealing home- that was off of a freshman pitcher. I bet that doesn't happen to him again.
 

jsireland

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<span class="post-title">Cohen should be fired if he </span>allows 2 more sweeps.

Cohen wasn't hired to conduct a Croom-esque 10 year re-building program.

He was hired to work a quick turnaround like he did @ UK.
It appears Ronnie completely ignored the fact that Cohen was swept FIVE times in his first year at UK.

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