McCarthy drops out..
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Talk about being stabbed in the back by your own party. You would have thought they (GOP) would have a better laid out plan in getting Beohner to resign and figuring out the next two steps. Now they are fighting amongst themselves as to who will take/get the job. McCarthy not conservative enough...some want Cheffitz...some say Cheffitz is too far right. What a bunch of clowns.
Yeah, say more, presumably say what Pelosi has to do with the current GOP clusterf*ck? You don't like her but that doesn't mean the Democrats don't or cannot elect leaders when required. If you can't run a party how can you run a Country? This ain't got a thing to do with Pelosi or the Democrats, it is all on the GOP house.
Is it supposed to be a structured process that it is preordained? Damn, I thought you put your hat into the ring and everybody got to vote. That sounds like an agreeable process.
Would you not agree with the suggestion that Nancy and Harry leadership fuked the entire country. Add Obama and you get a country of 300 million being dictated by those three people. Dems were like lemmings following the leader. Our for of government is not supposed to be run like that. We have majority rules and minority rights. US was damned near a King and his Court. Scary.
Lol, You can't even address the cluster going on in the GOP right now. And no, I don't think we are f*cked at all, I think the GOP is f8cked though. At this point anyone smart enough to lead the GOP house will be too smart to want the job. And we didn't "add" Obama, we elected him, twice, by overwhelming majorities.
Pelosi is an idiot. The poster claimed the GOP was stupid. I am simply pointing out that Pelosi defines stupid.
Damn, you are really proud to have Obama leading our country??? How do you want me to address GOP right now? They are in majority and attempting to block the free reign of a dictator.
They are in disarray and can't even elect a Speaker of the house, no wonder they can't block the free reign of the worlds first twice popularly elected dictator! GOP can't lead a party let alone a country.
Boehner stepped down for a reason. Just like we see in their current presidential campaign, GOP is going through a massive personality crisis.
Actually, that is what you get when you have too much power centrally located in a few.
Boehner actually allowed the liberals to have concentrated power because he declined to go along with the majority of his party. Anyone, anywhere is going to have rebellion when they refuse to follow the lead of their majority.
If you elect Government hating anarchists to government don't be surprised when they create anarchy.
Lol, I figured this would be Obamas fault too! Ya'll have jumped the shark.
He's saying the GOP elected people to push back on Obama's policies and spending and that there is a fight internal to the GOP right now. Yet somehow, we are audacious enough to blame it on Obama. In this case I agree with him.
However, the reason those people were elected is because there is a % of people in this country who are legitimately concerned with the level of spending and foreign policy decisions by this administration. There are entrenched establishment GOP individuals who are still trying to work with the administration, yet that is not what the party wants right now. Most people I talk to in the GOP have had enough of being pushed into a corner and are ready for a fight with the DNC at all costs. They want our party to punch the bully in the mouth. The funny thing is that he thinks we are actually scared of grinding it to a complete halt until the other side caves. That is not a feasible course of action for the DNC and once you get past the media attacks, real pressure will be put on them to cave. This is what most GOP people I talk to want. They'll take the temporary inconveniences of the Gov't being shut down to take back control at all costs.
I should caveat this with, no one wants a fight over a little issue like Planned Parenthood. We're talking massive spending cuts.
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It's hilarious that the Benghazi issue, that the wingnuts have pounded relentlessly, is now the cause for the turmoil with the GOP caucus.
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This meltdown should show anyone with a brain who is causing the dysfunction in DC. If the public wants to move this country forward, these type of politicians need to be voted out. Don't look for that to happen though.
That's not going to happen until the gerrymandering issue is fixed. A little over a decade ago it was bad - 100 competitive seats out of 435. Now it is insane with 2016 expected to have 35 competitive seats. I'm not trying to say this is one-sided either. Both sides do it when they have the opportunity. It's sickening though. If you don't believe me, take a look at how Austin, TX is divided up. I believe that you could have one of 5 representatives in that city, depending on where you live in Austin. Since Austin is generally left-leaning, you can guess how many of those 5 are not in the GOP.
I feel pretty good about the leadership they will recruit. One stepped down because he was not representing his party as the majority demanded. One stepped awaybecause of the heat he was getting from press and Dems desire to paint Clinton in a more positive light, and he may not have had the needed vote for aa few reasons.
I would be happy with Sessions, Hensarling , fellow from Oregon, and several others. Have no fear, leadership will be elected, and all congressmen will have a voice after that process.
Just look at WV and the 2nd district. An attempt to minimize the impact of the Eastern Panhandle, that ended up backfiring on the state Dems.
There's the fallacy in your argument. Chaffetz, Issa, and the other hardheads are not the majority of the GOP by any means -- in fact by their own reckoning there's only about 30 or so of them. But somehow the old bulls have allowed them to dictate the course in the House. They're like the Jacobins who hijacked the French Revolution.
Same thing here in MD. Although it has not backfired yet. Hogan is trying to remap it to make sense after what O'Malley did.
Exactly. 30-40 of them are holding the House hostage. The GOP can't get to the 218 votes needed to elect their Speaker (assuming no Dems vote) without these 30-40. So these babies, who have to have it their way or no way (shutting down the govt), won't cooperate with their own party's majority. There is always the option of forming a bipartisan coalition to elect the Speaker and actually have the Dems and Repubs work together. What a novel approach-legislators working together for the common good and making pariahs of the do-nothing, govt is bad crew.
Maryland is like two different sates when you compare western Maryland and the rest.
Most of the state is like western Maryland outside of Baltimore City/County (inside the beltway) and PGC.
He'd still be wrong. The fact that there are less than 50 of them out of 247 should tell you that they represent only a handful of malcontents.
Eastern Shore and Southern MD are also totally different. Montgomery,PG,Baltimore and Howard counties and most of Anne Arundel counties are overwhelmingly Democrat. They control everything in MD. I was shocked to see Hogan win the governorship.
I'm not saying that you're wrong, but isn't that the majority of the population of Maryland? It's similar to southern vs northern NJ. Their politics and interests are very different, but northern NJ carries the weight due to the percentage of the population.
Why did you limit the pool to Chaffetz , Issa and other hardheads? I specifically offered names who could carry the majority of House Repubs. Do you see a fallacy in that argument that I was actually offering? If you have a specific problem with either, so state, and I will offer three more if you present a valid argument.