The Communist and Marxist have been supporting this regime since the 1979 take over. Their dog has rabies. It was time to put it down. No sane person should want these lunatics to have long range or nuclear capabilities. Which shows how deranged certain leadership was from other countries to give it to them.
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The Communist and Marxist have been supporting this regime since the 1979 take over. Their dog has rabies. It was time to put it down. No sane person should want these lunatics to have long range or nuclear capabilities. Which shows how deranged certain leadership was from other countries to give it to them.
I appreciate your sane responses and don’t disagree with a lot of what you said here. I’m not denying they’re in negotiations and we’ll see how that develops - I hope they can find common ground.
From a pure force perspective, there’s no doubt we’re superior. However, we start knocking out Iran’s infrastructure and they’ve made it pretty clear they’re not scared to do the same to anyone or anything in the region. Trump is ultra aware of that and is extremely cautious of the economic impact that will have domestically especially with midterms upcoming.
If the US isn’t able to achieve a deal and we move forward with brute force, I don’t expect Iran to not go out swinging especially with critical infrastructure in the region and that could have lasting economic impacts. This is a different scenario than Venezuela just from the economic leverage Iran has, which is what they continue to hold over our heads. And, there has been zero evidence that they’re “pleading” to negotiate a peace deal as previously mentioned. Do I think they recognize they do not compare to the US in terms of brute force? Yes but they also recognize the economic leverage they have, and that’s more powerful then folks on here want to give credit to.
Also, their allies (China & Russia) are loving this and I’d imagine encouraging more of the same. We continue to expend a ton of resources with this conflict, sanctions are being pulled back, China is still getting what they need, and the US economy is rocky.
Hey...I resent that!
Is he talkin' 'bout me?
I never even got a chance to write check for 'em
Thank you Lord!
Hey...I resent that!
Is he talkin' 'bout me?
I never even got a chance to write check for 'em
Thank you Lord!
You can add these clowns too.
And pooh bear
I don’t know if I still have his book but yes it’s different now but Swartzkoft utilized his attack on all fronts and then the end sweep, that was operation cobra aftermath when third army broke out and attacked in all directions. His French of Audacity Audacity and more audacity was his philosophy . A great plan executed timidly was worse than a good plan executed violently.
You bot! They ARE negotiating a Peace deal (ie: surrender). Why? Because they're about to get annihilated! They have no "leverage" and Trump is dictating terms of their surrender.
As for China and Russia, they've been relegated to the sidelines. They have nothing to say about how Iran emerges from this, and they can do nothing to us if we decide to wipe out what's left of that Islamic sh*t hole and seize their oil assets on Kharg Island!
An armistice is all they can do right now to avoid being obliterated. Your post sounds as if they have something left to negotiate with!
Do you even realize how stupid you sound?
Brother I’m not the one on here seemingly wishing death on someone else just because you disagree. As I said before, you’re too emotional. So, yes - seek therapy. Also, I’ve never voted Democrat in my life but no point in trying to prove that to you.What are my "true colors"? You vote for Democrats, can't explain why, and don't even admit to it, yet you're telling me to "seek therapy"?
Well guess what? There's no cure for TDS, and you have it terminally Bro!
Cool I look forward to your assistance getting JD Vance elected in 2028.
B.S. I don't believe you. Who did you vote for in the last election cycle for President? You won't even admit it.
If you say Trump you're a bald faced lair, and if you didn't vote at all (which is what most Leftists who voted for that cacklin' Communist Harris will ever admit to) then why are you on here daily criticizing Trump?
You either didn't vote for Trump, or you didn't vote at all. (or you're a bald faced liar and voted for Harris & can't admit it just like I said) Your candidate either lost, or you didn't have one, which means you literally have no dog in this fight!
So if I'm "emotional" then you're flat out irrational or damn crazy, on here daily whining about someone you either didn't vote for, or worse you didn't even vote at all! Really Dude?
That's deranged Bro.
lol who is on here daily? Certainly not me. You? Yes, definitely. It would do you some good to step away from this echo chamber for a bit.
And, you underestimate the volume of Independents and Republicans who voted for Trump and feel betrayed based upon what he campaigned on in 2024.
You'd be amazed how many so called "Republicans" or "independents" claim to have voted for Trump, but do nothing but criticize everything he does or says. Then again, maybe you wouldn't be 'cause you're one of 'em!
What's an "echo chamber" on here if you voted for Trump? That's nothing but anti-Trump Leftist's psychobabble. I honestly have never read one post of yours on this forum in support of Trump, not one.
If you can link us so you can expose me for calling you a bald faced liar, I'll gladly apologize to you. I will 100% guarantee you can't link us to anything you've ever said on this forum in support of Trump...prove me wrong.
@EER_Nation ...you can save yourself the trouble of responding to post #53. I just went and checked your posting history using the search word "Trump" and there is not one post from you in support of anything he's ever done! Not one. I saw one post where you claimed to support him, but then you bashed his policy on tariffs and taxes in the big beautiful bill. Most folks who voted for Trump voted for him in part to make trading with our Foreign partners, more fair...and to expand those tax cuts!
So I'm not the least bit convinced you voted for Trump, when every post I read in your history is either critical of him, or criticizes one of his policies.
EVERY SINGLE POST.
@EER_Nation said:
"you underestimate the volume of Independents and Republicans who voted for Trump and feel betrayed based upon what he campaigned on in 2024"
Yeah, and you're not one of 'em!
So I'm not the least bit convinced you voted for Trump, when every post I read in your history is either critical of him, or criticizes one of his policies.
EVERY SINGLE POST.
@EER_Nation said:
"you underestimate the volume of Independents and Republicans who voted for Trump and feel betrayed based upon what he campaigned on in 2024"
Yeah, and you're not one of 'em!
Nobody feels betrayed. Unless you voted for him because you thought that made you Commander in Chief. The adults realize Iran has been a problem for 47 years. The CCP has become a huge problem since 2001. So we trust he's doing what he thinks is best for the country long term. No more forever wars also doesn't mean our enemies get a free pass to do whatever they want. He attempted to negotiate. They said go pound sand. So now they are getting their asses pounded. I get they want him to stop but I'm not going to assist them. Keep bombing them Trump until they surrender. Their terrorism only works if they are alive.
Agreed @Gunny46 ...wipe 'em out...change the radical leadership, then start over with 'em. We could sell 'em back their oil at 25% below world benchmark crude prices!
Agreed @Gunny46 ...wipe 'em out...change the radical leadership, then start over with 'em. We could sell 'em back their oil at 25% below world benchmark crude prices!
Changing their leadership needs to be done by Iranians. I don't mind wiping enough of the IRGC out for them to do it. Going to happen eventually regardless what else we do.
My point is that WE should have destroyed their drone and missile capability long ago.
WTF...you are nuts....NEVER will lean left. I'm disappointed that we have not stopped their ability to launch the drone and missile attacks.
Yes....they are a sick bunch.I bet privately each and every one of these Leftist bots want to see Iran prevail in this conflict. They are so desperate to see Trump defeated at something...anything, they'd actually prefer Iran emerging from this epic beatdown claiming "victory".
They have had zero to say in praise of how we're literally decimating Iran's war fighting ability, or how we've wiped out their pip squeak, rag-tag Navy and what little air defenses they had. All they're talking about is how Iran is still bravely "resisting" annihilation or they're celebrating whenever some randomly fired Iranian missile or drone manages to get through our American/Israeli 'Iron Dome' to take out an apartment building or something. Or they're clapping like trained circus Seals over oil ships bottled up in the straight of Hormuz, with Iran claiming how they still "control" that key waterway. Puhleese!
I'll lay odds when/if a peace deal is finalized, and Trump achieves all of his stated military objectives, they'll still find something about it to criticize or they'll suggest Iran actually won the standoff.
What a sick group of mind numbed malcontents Leftists are.
Iran is a pretty big country and they have stuff stashed all over it and a really large stockpile. Also, those Shaheds can be made really quickly.
they have prepared for this for decades to the point they even have weapons facilities under mountains from my understanding
and if all they need is a few to hit a ship trying to cross the strait every couple weeks that is going to be almost impossible to stop and that is all it takes for them to feel like they have the world economy by the balls
They could also keep getting their asses killed. Their call.
Sure. Don't look at the desperation of Iran knowing their country is in ruins and about to crumble.
That trash needs leveled out - just like the Nazis. Time to crush them once and for all.
They are just a bunch of indoctrinated sickos. Stopping now will just reopen this again in 3 years. Destroy the evil while we can. Time to hammer them to hell.
This is NOT acceptable...I guess we have not destroyed all their military capabilities...I don't know whom to believe :
Iran’s military on March 25 dismissed the idea of negotiating with the United States to end the war, as Tehran launched fresh missile and drone attacks on Israel and energy infrastructure across the Persian Gulf, signaling no sign of de-escalation of the conflict.
Strikes overnight targeted multiple sites in Israel, while Iranian attacks on Gulf energy facilities and Tehran’s continued chokehold on key oil shipping routes signaled no immediate end in sight to the war.
Iran’s military on March 25 dismissed the idea of negotiating with the United States to end the war, as Tehran launched fresh missile and drone attacks on Israel and energy infrastructure across the Persian Gulf, signaling no sign of de-escalation of the conflict.
Strikes overnight targeted multiple sites in Israel, while Iranian attacks on Gulf energy facilities and Tehran’s continued chokehold on key oil shipping routes signaled no immediate end in sight to the war.
No ceasefire has been enacted, I’m not sure what is confusing to you. Again, they’re trying to remain in power but find an end state to them getting bombed. If they have zero capability, they have no negotiation power.
We are round the clock bombing them and moving ground forces into position for strategic necessity if this escalates. Recall Iraq in the first gulf war, we bombed them for 6 months to completely degrade them. Iran has a lot more stuff than they did and is twice the size. You think we’re gonna get it done in 3 weeks? Honestly asking.
My personal opinion is that your expectations aren’t aligned with reality. I’m just not sure what you’re wanting, but it seems unrealistic, at least to me.
Not confused about anything and I never said anything about a ceasefire.
What I'm concerned about is that Iran is continuing to spread terror over the Middle East with their missiles and drones.
Also the reality is that we HAVE NOT totally destroyed their military.....AS we have repeatedly been told.
Another reality is that we will NOT be able to get control of Iran unless we use ground troops.
Another reality is that the people of Iran are NOT capable of overthrowing the current regime.
Ok, so you’re projecting concern or indicting Trump’s rhetoric against reality on the ground. Got it. Thanks. Just wanted to understand where you were coming from.
I think we’ve significantly degraded and destroyed the bulk of their conventional weaponry. But yea, completely degrading them to having an inability to launch drones? I don’t know if that’s ever gonna be possible. Degrade them to the point of defending against what they can muster en masse? I think that’s closer to reality. Locking down the straight? That’s gonna be a challenge without landing troops and establishing a beachhead.
And again, we can amp this up to their infrastructure, and then we just break their country. I think that’s on the table and what we’re threatening. We do that and secure their oil, I don’t think we care what happens inside their borders after, it won’t matter. I can say with a degree of certainty, we do have assets in-country and are working with the locals who are marking targets for us. It’s just a matter of time.
I don't know but since you pretend to be an EXPERT on military tactics....I'll defer to you.
All I know is the reality that we HAVE NOT destroyed all of Iran's military.
You are correct about this and yes....you are correct about some of the rhetoric.
I will support WHATEVER is needed to TOTALLY destroy the trash in Iran. Since Iran has ZERO air defense I would support sending every Warthog we have over,over and over every mile of Iran and their proxies.
Iraq has now threatened us because we struck Iran backers in their country.
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Pretend? I served in both of the MEU's currently in route there. I already posted their capabilities. As far as what's been accomplished so far several current Officers in Charge have already told you it's unmatched in how quickly it's going and the results they are accomplishing. Everytime what's left of the IRGC comes out of their hole they get targeted and killed. So they can surrender or the President has plenty of options. Do you want him to launch some tactical nukes? If not then come back Saturday. They have until then to open the strait.
White House warns Iran against balking at deal: Trump ready to 'unleash hell'
White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt says Trump is prepared to 'unleash hell' if Iran refuses to abandon its nuclear ambitions.
www.foxnews.com
White House warns Iran against balking at deal: Trump ready to 'unleash hell'
Karoline Leavitt says Iran has 'already been defeated' and should not 'miscalculate again'
The White House issued a stark warning to Iran Tuesday, saying President Donald Trump is prepared to "unleash hell" if Tehran refuses to step back from its nuclear ambitions and its ongoing threats against the United States and its allies.
"President Trump does not bluff, and he is prepared to unleash hell," White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt said at the beginning of Wednesday's White House press briefing. "Iran should not miscalculate again. Their last miscalculation cost them their senior leadership, their navy, their air force and their air defense system.
"Any violence beyond this point will be because the Iranian regime refused to understand they have already been defeated and refused to come to a deal."
Leavitt said ongoing U.S. military operations, dubbed Operation Epic Fury, have severely weakened Iran's offensive capabilities. She claimed more than 9,000 targets have been struck, Iranian missile and drone attacks have fallen by about 90% and much of Iran’s navy and air defense network has been destroyed.
What you said here is "tactically" true...I mean they can offer some form of resistance. However "operationally" ...they're a shell of a fighting force. They have no operational capability not even tactically, to defeat us. They can't ever hope to win this conflict, with nearly 90% of their military assets obliterated, no effective command-and-control, no ability to re-arm or deploy deterrent forces, and no strategy to emerge victorious absent launching a few random cruise missiles or drones and making bold threats on "X".
The best they can hope for now is some type of "surrender" where they at least can hold onto what's left of their confused & dazed leadership. Otherwise, they're about to get annihilated and lose not only the rest of their country but probably their lives! Then we'll just seize their oil fields, and maybe help them rebuild what's left of their decimated country.
Agreed. Now imagine Iran has nuclear weapons.
They can literally shut the straight down permanently and there is nothing we can do about it.
Folks should stop listening to the Praetorian Guard legacy news media. I mean that sincerely, they are so bad, so misinformed, so factually biased and so unpatriotically dangerous...that in a time of War... they are aiding and abetting our enemy by undermining the mission with outrageous "fake news" reporting!
TURN THEM OFF!!!!
TURN THEM OFF!!!!