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Fried Chicken

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Yes really… he will be surrounded by a completely different cast of players. He will not have the same level of players that he played with 2 years ago. He’s also basically sat out for a year of basketball. There are more important factors than, “look what he did 2 years ago.”

nice straw man at the end there
He played for us 3 years ago as well without all that talent too. He has proven he can play at this level. Of course he’ll help us.

He hasn’t played college basketball in 4 months. That’s hardly a year. Every basketball player will of have not played in 7 months come October…to his 11. Quite the stretch there. I have a feeling he’ll be ok. Plus, with this logic should we just dump every player that has a season ending injury? Meechie has played about as much as Stute who is returning.

Who should we go get that we know will be better than Meechie? Please, tell me. Meechie just joined our team and is instantly in the Starting 5. He would’ve been the 2nd best player on our team this year behind CMB, and by far our best shooter. If CMB doesn’t return, Meechie is likely our best player right now.

Im afraid you just don’t know what the hell you are talking about.
 
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He played for us 3 years ago as well without all that talent too. He has proven he can play at this level. Of course he’ll help us.

He hasn’t played college basketball in 4 months. That’s hardly a year. Every basketball player will of have not played in 7 months come October…to his 11. Quite the stretch there. I have a feeling he’ll be ok. Plus, with this logic should we just dump every player that has a season ending injury? Meechie has played about as much as Stute who is returning.

Who should we go get that we know will be better than Meechie? Please, tell me. Meechie just joined our team and is instantly in the Starting 5. He would’ve been the 2nd best player on our team this year behind CMB, and by far our best shooter. If CMB doesn’t return, Meechie is likely our best player right now.

Im afraid you just don’t know what the hell you are talking about.
I mean I noticed a lot of people just turn to insults when they are insecure about what they are attempting to discuss. Meechie was never a great shooter here. 32% from 3 is average. That’s worse than Ugusuk and Thomas who you already tried to use to distract in this discussion. His eFG is basically the same as Thomas and worse than Ugusuk… but hey, at least you looked all this up before making a false claim. Good thing I’m here to help you out.

Never said we shouldn’t take someone for sitting out. My point is that there are times when someone is affected mentally, which Meechie has been, that they don’t return to form. He sat out because of personal issues, and the mental aspect of basketball is pretty important.

I didn’t say that we shouldn’t take Meechie either. I just said it won’t do much to move the needle in terms of wins based on what is around him currently and the way the SEC is going to out recruit SC in the portal in all likelihood. For some reason, you’re attacking claims never been made, but don’t worry, my friend. I’ll set you straight.
 

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I mean I noticed a lot of people just turn to insults when they are insecure about what they are attempting to discuss. Meechie was never a great shooter here. 32% from 3 is average. That’s worse than Ugusuk and Thomas who you already tried to use to distract in this discussion. His eFG is basically the same as Thomas and worse than Ugusuk… but hey, at least you looked all this up before making a false claim. Good thing I’m here to help you out.

Never said we shouldn’t take someone for sitting out. My point is that there are times when someone is affected mentally, which Meechie has been, that they don’t return to form. He sat out because of personal issues, and the mental aspect of basketball is pretty important.

I didn’t say that we shouldn’t take Meechie either. I just said it won’t do much to move the needle in terms of wins based on what is around him currently and the way the SEC is going to out recruit SC in the portal in all likelihood. For some reason, you’re attacking claims never been made, but don’t worry, my friend. I’ll set you straight.
Right, Ugusuk and Thomas were better than Meechie. I know you “didn’t say it” but you certainly use a stat to compare. I didn’t use Thomas to distract. I made the point that Meechie was proven at this level, which he is. The other option would be to not take him and go get another player that isn’t proven, like we had to do with Thomas this season.

In regards to his FG% and 3-pt %, Meechie is a streaky shooter. His 32% reflects that. When he’s off, he’s off. But when he’s on, he’s a great weapon. Ugusuk can’t create his own shot. Meechie can and did. Neither of thise guys come close to impacting a game like Meechie could. There is more than being the best shooter than percentage. I know that sounds weird, but Ugusuk is a liability on the court other than standing on the corner for a shot. And the last time Meechie and Ugusuk played for us, Meechie’s 3 pt % was higher. Who knows if he shoots better on our team this year…you’re assuming he wouldn’t have improved while taking Ugusuk’s improvement into account. I’d rather have Meechie shooting 10 3’s a game that Ugusuk.

I guess moving the needle is relative. I’ve said Meechie committing isn’t getting us to the NCAA Tournament. If that’s your expectation, then fine. I really don’t know how realistic it is, but Meechie would help. One player isn’t moving the needle that far as bad as we were. Regardless, Meechie is certainly worth taking and we’re better off with him than without him. I guess we agree on that.
 
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Right, Ugusuk and Thomas were better than Meechie. I know you “didn’t say it” but you certainly use a stat to compare. I didn’t use Thomas to distract. I made the point that Meechie was proven at this level, which he is. The other option would be to not take him and go get another player that isn’t prove, like we had to do with Thomas this season.

In regards to his FG% and 3-pt %, Meechie is a streaky shooter. His 32% reflects that. When he’s off, he’s off. But when he’s on, he’s a great weapon. Ugusuk can’t create his own shot. Meechie can and did. Neither of thise guys come close to impacting a game like Meechie could.

I guess moving the needle is relative. I’ve said Meechie committing isn’t getting us to the NCAA Tournament. If that’s your expectation, then fine. I really don’t know how realistic it is, but Meechie would help. One player isn’t moving the needle that far as bad as we were. Regardless, Meechie is certainly worth taking and we’re better off with him than without him.
I mean my original post was pretty clear that it doesn’t move the needle to bring back Meechie. I never said don’t bring him back, I just commented on how streaky he could be and at times just disappeared. With his previous season, I’d have some red flags about his mental state so hopefully the staff can keep him engaged and encouraged. It’s not an awful pick up, but it’s not like we are looking a top half of the SEC transfer class currently either. If you didn’t notice, I talked about more than just Meechie in my original post. Me being down has more to do with the entire product.
 

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I mean my original post was pretty clear that it doesn’t move the needle to bring back Meechie. I never said don’t bring him back, I just commented on how streaky he could be and at times just disappeared. With his previous season, I’d have some red flags about his mental state so hopefully the staff can keep him engaged and encouraged. It’s not an awful pick up, but it’s not like we are looking a top half of the SEC transfer class currently either. If you didn’t notice, I talked about more than just Meechie in my original post. Me being down has more to do with the entire product.
I didn’t reply to you until you said “2 years ago doesn’t reply to the present.” Which it really does. But I guess we’ll have to agree to disagree on that. It comes down to what you think moving the needle is and what I think it is.

I certainly think taking Meechie is a no-brainer. It’s a move in the right direction. GG Jackson didn’t move the needle. Nobody alone is moving the needle that far.
 

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Meechie gave us two good years. Left to be closer to family so they could see him play his last year or two. He’s coming back for his final year here so he must have missed it. He left in the class manner, so no hard feelings, unlike Juice. There is a different way and he did it the right way. So as far as I’m concerned, welcome home.
 
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Ya’ll are focusing on his shooting % and being streaky vs his ability to get to the basket. He won several games for us providing the “dagger” in several situations. He only makes us better, not worse, but yes, depends on who’s around him. I think his experience will be a big plus to our team, a point some of you aren’t considering. He already knows how LP wants to play. Worry about the other guys coming in, not Meechie
 
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