Michigan has 14 NFL combine invitees...

Cam82huskers

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I'm surprised westecamp didn't get an invite. He reminds me of a Wes welker type of receiver. I hope the patriots take a shot at westecamp he would be perfect for that type of offense.
 

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It has to be disappointing for Westerkamp not to receive a combine invite. If I were to guess, I'd say that he still gets some NFL attention, but it hurts not to be able to showcase his abilities at the event.
 

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That is a low number for sure, I was thinking Westy would receive an invitation, as well.

Iowa had 4 players invited and Wisconsin had 6. It is pretty apparent that Nebraska has just not had a lot of NFL caliber talent over the past several years. I hope some of these touted recruits pan out for Riley and company.

Note that Penn State also only had 2 players invited, and they won the B1G. I would guess their team this year was more underclassmen-heavy than Nebraska's was, likely as a result of the loss of scholarships a few years back.
 

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When I saw the thread title, I thought you were going to say that Michigan's coaches suck and Michigan underachieved by having so much talent but not winning the B1G East... :Cool:

On a more serious note, I too am very surprised Westy didn't get an invite.

Anyone know if injuries play a part in getting invites to the combine?
 
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When I saw the thread title, I thought you were going to say that Michigan's coaches suck and Michigan underachieved by having so much talent but not winning the B1G East... :Cool:

On a more serious note, I too am very surprised Westy didn't get an invite.

Anyone know if injuries play a part in getting invites to the combine?
Yes. They can only move so many bodies through effectively. No reason to have a guy there that is not ready to showcase his talent.
 

Cam82huskers

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Wasn't colt McCoy injured and he still went to the combine. I beleive it was his shoulder. From what I remember he didn't throw at the combine but he threw at texas's pro day.
 

bigboxes

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He either needs to be quite a bit bigger or quite a bit faster for his size. He isn't nearly as fast as Welker so people need to stop with that comparison.

I'd say that Westy has the talent to get open. That is all that matters for a possession receiver. He's got great technique and great hands. I would think that he's still healing. However, he'll still get a look to make a team if he doesn't get drafted.
 

jeans15

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Well the player development the past 2 years has been average. Not surprised.

The OL were a bunch of underclassmen and so was the defense.
 
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timnsun

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Well the player development the past 2 years have been average. Not surprised.

The OL were a bunch of underclassmen and so was the defense nice try OP.
How is OP trying to pull a fast one? If the upper classmen weren't good enough to start, aren't those the Pelini recruits? Why are you so hellbent on defending Pelini at the expense of the current coaching staff?
 

RealTucoSalamanca

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The problem you run into is where they ran their 40.

Amendola was 4.70 at the combine but 4.58 at his pro day.

Both Welker and Edelman times were at their pro day.

I would bet Westerkamp is in the 4.55 range at pro day. Which could very well be a 4.70 or slower at the combine.
 
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RealTucoSalamanca

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How is OP trying to pull a fast one? If the upper classmen weren't good enough to start, aren't those the Pelini recruits? Why are you so hellbent on defending Pelini at the expense of the current coaching staff?


Jeans plays the player advocate role on the board. When something goes wrong, the coach messed up and when something goes right it's the player's abilities.
 
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jeans15

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How is OP trying to pull a fast one? If the upper classmen weren't good enough to start, aren't those the Pelini recruits? Why are you so hellbent on defending Pelini at the expense of the current coaching staff?

Our entire secondary accept Gerry were underclassmen. All Pelini recruits save one player.

We had 3 DL leave last year. 2 were drafted that were Pelini recruits. The underclassmen that played and started this year were Pelini recruits.

The receivers have been under Riley's tutelage for 2 years......Westerkamp is a Pelini recruits. They all were injured the entire year. But all Pelini recruits.

2 Pelini linebackers started.

OL were all recruited by Pelini and we're underclassmen.

This was a young team accept at WR and QB.

Why would you expect them to have a lot of players drafted.

It's a lame excuse to blame Pelini. Plus they all are playing in a new system. How about we just let it play out.
 

SeaOfRed75

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Dont really know but how does Westy's 10yd numbers or shuttle run numbers compare to say Welker, Amendola and Edelman? Also height and LEGIT weight numbers for them to compare build?
 

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He either needs to be quite a bit bigger or quite a bit faster for his size. He isn't nearly as fast as Welker so people need to stop with that comparison.
Welker's 40 was a 4.65, he had unreal lateral quickness though. Frankly teams aren't gonna waste a pick on a 5'11" 190lb wideout with a laundry list of injuries. Westy was a lot of fun to watch here but it looks like this is the end of the line for him.
 

RealTucoSalamanca

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Of the 3 pro players talked about only Amendola was invited to the combine.
And only Edelman was drafted. He was selected in round 7, number 232 of 256 players picked.
 
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Michigan had a team full of seniors.
Samuel McKewon @swmckewonOWH


Iowa has 4 players headed to the NFL Combine.

Nebraska has 2 - Gerry and Carter.

Makes you think about talent a little, doesn't it?

10:50 AM - 15 Feb 2017
 

jeans15

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Gates - jr
Farmer- jr
Chris Jones - sr
Carlos Davis - so
Freedom -jr
Neal - so
Foster - so
DPE - sr

All have chances with improvement to play in the league.
 
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Or player development. Depends on how you want to look at it.

One of our best players ever didn't get a sniff at the NFL.
Talent trumps player development. If Bo and Carl were such wizards at developing players why didn't they take Jay Guy and turn him into the next Suh? I don't care if you have the greatest coaches in history you aren't going to take Joe Blow from nowhere and turn them into an All American. Guys like Suh are All American talents. Something we didn't get after Callahan's recruits dried up. If I was a coach and had Barry Sanders does that make me a great RB coach? Deion Sanders.. a great secondary coach? Talent is the key to "great" coaching. Coincidence Bama wins National titles every other year and has had top recruiting classes EVERY YEAR?
 
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timnsun

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Our entire secondary accept Gerry were underclassmen. All Pelini recruits save one player.

We had 3 DL leave last year. 2 were drafted that were Pelini recruits. The underclassmen that played and started this year were Pelini recruits.

The receivers have been under Riley's tutelage for 2 years......Westerkamp is a Pelini recruits. They all were injured the entire year. But all Pelini recruits.

2 Pelini linebackers started.

OL were all recruited by Pelini and we're underclassmen.

This was a young team accept at WR and QB.

Why would you expect them to have a lot of players drafted.

It's a lame excuse to blame Pelini. Plus they all are playing in a new system. How about we just let it play out.
This is solid. It will be interesting to see what happens with these guys when their eligibility is exhausted. How many will go pro?

And conversely, how many Riley recruits, once they reach that point, will go pro? I sure hope Riley recruits go pro at a higher rate than pelini recruits... that will make us better moving forward.
 

jeans15

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Talent trumps player development. If Bo and Carl were such wizards at developing players why didn't they take Jay Guy and turn him into the next Suh? I don't care if you have the greatest coaches in history you aren't going to take Joe Blow from nowhere and turn them into an All American. Guys like Suh are All American talents. Something we didn't get after Callahan's recruits dried up. If I was a coach and had Barry Sanders does that make me a great RB coach? Deion Sanders.. a great secondary coach? Talent is the key to "great" coaching. Coincidence Bama wins National titles ever other year and has had top recruiting classes EVERY YEAR?

Jay Guy left the program.

Prince was a 3 star RB
Eric Hagg was a 2 star receiver
Pierre Allen 3 star DE
Ameer Abdullah was 3 star RB that people wanted at Db
Will Compton team leader for the Redskins
Quincy Enunwa was a 3 star WR
Kenny Bell was a 3 star receiver
Jared Crick wasnt even rated
Stanley Jean Baptiste a 2 star wr
Eric Martin 3 star lb
Alphonso Dennard 3 star DB

All those guys played at a high level or went to the league.

If player development doest matter then we hired the wrong coach.
 
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Jay Guy left the program.

Prince was a 3 star RB
Eric Hagg was a 2 star receiver
Pierre Allen 3 star DE
Ameer Abdullah was 3 star RB that people wanted at Db
Will Compton team leader for the Redskins
Quincy Enunwa was a 3 star WR
Kenny Bell was a 3 star receiver
Jared Crick wasnt even rated
Stanley Jean Baptiste a 2 star wr
Eric Martin 3 star lb

All those guys played at a high level or went to the league.

If player development doest matter then we hired the wrong coach.
Never said it doesn't matter. Said talent trumps it.
 
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Cornicator

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Actually, there is no more overrated Coach in America than Jim Harbaugh. 14 upperclassmen will get drafted. His inability to even win a division was an all time fail.

Keep in mind Avery Moss, Jordan Westerkamp, and Jarad Afalava from Weber State, will all play in the NFL. Jordan didn't receive an invite due to injury.

The lack of Offensive linemen or Defensive front 7 players is Bo's biggest indictment.
 
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Samuel McKewon @swmckewonOWH


Iowa has 4 players headed to the NFL Combine.

Nebraska has 2 - Gerry and Carter.

Makes you think about talent a little, doesn't it?

10:50 AM - 15 Feb 2017

I really wish I gave two sh!ts about that guy's opinion on anything Nebraska football, because he is the "beat-writer", but the guy knows nothing about football whatsoever, and just because he has a new job doesn't mean he knows anymore actual football, no matter how much he tries to act like it.

Sorry, end of rant.
 
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dinglefritz

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Dinglefritz I just looked up their 40 yard times welkers 40 time is 4.65 and westercamps 40 time is 4.5
Ummm I have to question that. Welker runs away from DBs. Westercamp not so much. I don't know when or where Welker's 40 time is from, but he's certainly much faster than that now. I also would have to see Westercamp run a 4.5 at the combine to believe he runs a 4.5.
 

RealTucoSalamanca

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Ummm I have to question that. Welker runs away from DBs. Westercamp not so much. I don't know when or where Welker's 40 time is from, but he's certainly much faster than that now. I also would have to see Westercamp run a 4.5 at the combine to believe he runs a 4.5.


Welker is a special teams coach for the Texans. Not sure he runs 4.5 now.
 
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