Mike Gundy for OC?

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He’s not being talked about for any P4 HC jobs. Only jobs I’ve read him linked to are UAB and Arkansas St. We can pay him more as OC. His downfall at Ok St was resistance to NIL. That wouldn’t be his problem as OC. Long track record of successful offenses. Even in a down year last year, they put up 12 ppg more than we are this year.

I’m not sure Beamer is secure enough to bring on a longtime successful former HC though.

I’d give it 0% chance, but we could do (indeed, are doing) a lot worse.
 

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There is absolutely no way that Beamer will hire his potential successor, If he is smart, he will go the route he took to hire Clayton White.
 
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There is absolutely no way that Beamer will hire his potential successor, If he is smart, he will go the route he took to hire Clayton White.

Yeah, that’s why I mentioned the secure aspect for Beamer. Although the most likely scenario is that the whole staff would go whenever Beamer goes. Gundy knows a thing or two about offense.
 

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There is absolutely no way that Beamer will hire his potential successor, If he is smart, he will go the route he took to hire Clayton White.
I doubt Gundy will be a head coach at this level again. I certainly wouldn't consider him a successor if next year's team was unsuccessful with him as our OC. As to whether he is interested in being a coordinator, would work for Beamer, or if Beamer would set his sights that high, I have no idea, but I think I'd take him as an OC in a heartbeat.
 
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He’s not being talked about for any P4 HC jobs. Only jobs I’ve read him linked to are UAB and Arkansas St. We can pay him more as OC. His downfall at Ok St was resistance to NIL. That wouldn’t be his problem as OC. Long track record of successful offenses. Even in a down year last year, they put up 12 ppg more than we are this year.

I’m not sure Beamer is secure enough to bring on a longtime successful former HC though.

I’d give it 0% chance, but we could do (indeed, are doing) a lot worse.
Isn't Mike Shula basically Mike Gundy, but less of a man?
 
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I just can't imagine those egos (Gundy and Beamer) in the same room together.

Saban managed to work with Kiffin. For one reason: Not because they had great personal chemistry; Saban knew Kiffin could help him win a title. And he was right.

I don't know about Beamer's ego, but I think he might feel too insecure to bring him in.
 
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I doubt Gundy will be a head coach at this level again. I certainly wouldn't consider him a successor if next year's team was unsuccessful with him as our OC. As to whether he is interested in being a coordinator, would work for Beamer, or if Beamer would set his sights that high, I have no idea, but I think I'd take him as an OC in a heartbeat.

Yeah, I don't really there would be concern about him being a viable successor.
 

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If I were Beamer, I'd take a pay cut and use some of the savings to hire the best assistant coaches I could find.
He says this is his dream job and truly loves it here. Such a move would make sense.

He should already be financially set for life. Take a 50% pay cut and put that money towards new staff.

His family might have to tighten their belts on $4 million/yr in SC, but I think they could scape by.
 

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Saban managed to work with Kiffin. For one reason: Not because they had great personal chemistry; Saban knew Kiffin could help him win a title. And he was right.

I don't know about Beamer's ego, but I think he might feel too insecure to bring him in.
Saban had the ability to work with anyone because he was in charge and they knew it. Beamer is too volatile.
 

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Saban had the ability to work with anyone because he was in charge and they knew it. Beamer is too volatile.

Yes. Saban also had the credentials. He had former head coaches working as analysts. I think this is Beamer's major handicap when looking for assistants. Most assistants are looking to go somewhere they can be professionally developed. They want a head coach they can learn from.

Not being mean, but what does Beamer have to teach anyone? I think he's a great guy and I like him, but he just doesn't have the credibility that I think a lot of assistants are looking for.

This is possibly where someone like Gundy could fit. He's 58 and has already had a long, successful head coach career, so I don't think he's looking for a lot of professional development like an up and coming assistant. But I think he'd have a VERY hard time going from head coach to an assistant for a newbie like Beamer.
 

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I like Shane personally but he has a very thin skin. I worked for a boss like him. These type of people micromanage and are paranoid.
 

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I like Shane personally but he has a very thin skin. I worked for a boss like him. These type of people micromanage and are paranoid.

I think he has emotional issues. Look at him on the sideline during a game. There are times he looks totally unhinged. His hysteria goes far beyond regular emotions of a coach in a game.
 

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He’s not being talked about for any P4 HC jobs. Only jobs I’ve read him linked to are UAB and Arkansas St. We can pay him more as OC. His downfall at Ok St was resistance to NIL. That wouldn’t be his problem as OC. Long track record of successful offenses. Even in a down year last year, they put up 12 ppg more than we are this year.

I’m not sure Beamer is secure enough to bring on a longtime successful former HC though.

I’d give it 0% chance, but we could do (indeed, are doing) a lot worse.
I don't think Gundy called the offensive plays as head coach, or at least hasn't in awhile. I don't know that he'd be a great hire.
 

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I don't think Gundy called the offensive plays as head coach, or at least hasn't in awhile. I don't know that he'd be a great hire.
I dunno. He's an offensive guy though. It's not a mistake that they mostly had good offenses with him as HC. Just like Alabama's defense when Saban was head coach.
 

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We need him at the Baylor School in Chattanooga so he can deliver Marshall Manning to us.
Word out of Chattanooga is that Peyton absolutely loves Kirby. He and Marshall have actually gone to games in Athens and Marshall has been to football camp in Athens.
 

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Word out of Chattanooga is that Peyton absolutely loves Kirby. He and Marshall have actually gone to games in Athens and Marshall has been to football camp in Athens.
ha, yeah, I know he ain't coming here.
 

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He is class of 2030. Who knows? By then, South Carolina may be elite, Kirby may have retired and Beamer is the hottest name in coaching.
If you thought the Eli hype was crazy. As long as he can throw the ball 10 yards, the push for Peyton Manning's son will be insane.