Mike Leach

[The Cooterpoot]

He's got the chance with 4 games in November, to show us he's the guy and we're on the right path. That goes for some players too. Win 3 games out of 4. Get those 8 wins. Get that OM monkey off his back. Set is up for a huge year next year. Can he do it? Can this team get it done? Money is in for NIL. People are feeling a little fire for the program after Cohen slinked out with his bitter **** slinging. Leach and the team need to get it done.

 

[Drebin]

He's got the chance with 4 games in November, to show us he's the guy and we're on the right path. That goes for some players too. Win 3 games out of 4. Get those 8 wins. Get that OM monkey off his back. Set is up for a huge year next year. Can he do it? Can this team get it done? Money is in for NIL. People are feeling a little fire for the program after Cohen slinked out with his bitter **** slinging. Leach and the team need to get it done.

We seem to say this every week. He's the same guy he's always been, and his teams are consistently inconsistent. We'll **** the bed again somewhere, just like we discussed earlier when everyone was patting each other's backs after the A&M game.

 

[aTotal360]

Gonna be real…if I don’t see some special sauce from our players and staff during the EB, I’m selling my CML bandwagon tickets.

 

[ronpolk]

We seem to say this every week. He's the same guy he's always been, and his teams are consistently inconsistent. We'll **** the bed again somewhere, just like we discussed earlier when everyone was patting each other's backs after the A&M game.

Accurate post…

even if we do win 3 of the last 4, there will be a head scratcher next year and the year after that. It’s leach at this point.

 

[tribaldawg]

He's got the chance with 4 games in November, to show us he's the guy and we're on the right path. That goes for some players too. Win 3 games out of 4. Get those 8 wins. Get that OM monkey off his back. Set is up for a huge year next year. Can he do it? Can this team get it done? Money is in for NIL. People are feeling a little fire for the program after Cohen slinked out with his bitter **** slinging. Leach and the team need to get it done.

To do that he has to beat the #1 team in the country at home or the #11 team in the country on the road. I hope there aren’t a lot of teams in the country requiring this out of their coach to decide if they are on the right path.

 

[OG Goat Holder]

Watch us beat Georgia and lose to Ole Miss. Georgia coming off a big game win or lose, then going on the road, with Kentucky after us. We have a (should be) easy win at home before them, and ETSU afterwards. I've seen weirder things happen.

But yeah, either way, even at 7-5 Leach isn't going anywhere, no matter what the Egg Bowl Obsessors may want.

 

[Cantdoitsal]

To do that he has to beat the #1 team in the country at home or the #11 team in the country on the road. I hope there aren’t a lot of teams in the country requiring this out of their coach to decide if they are on the right path.

Except tsun ain't the 11th best in the country despite their ranking.

 

[Maroon13]

The fan base really needs an injection of positive vibes to finish the football season. I'm hopeful Leach and company can oblige.

Otherwise the new AD will be walking into a tough situation 2023.

 

[Dawgg]

My money is on beating UGA by 30, then losing to ETSU on a last minute field goal (either our miss or their make).

 

[Grover777]

We seem to say this every week. He's the same guy he's always been, and his teams are consistently inconsistent. We'll **** the bed again somewhere, just like we discussed earlier when everyone was patting each other's backs after the A&M game.

Lol

how do you think Kiffin will do at auburn ?

 

[Grover777]

Watch us beat Georgia and lose to Ole Miss. Georgia coming off a big game win or lose, then going on the road, with Kentucky after us. We have a (should be) easy win at home before them, and ETSU afterwards. I've seen weirder things happen.

But yeah, either way, even at 7-5 Leach isn't going anywhere, no matter what the Egg Bowl Obsessors may want.

Yep, always setting up the narrative, same losers who kept saying 10-2 this year so they could turn around and trash leach when he didn’t win ten with the number two sos

 

[DoggieDaddy13]

Except tsun ain't the 11th best in the country despite their ranking.

I hope we can somehow prove that this year. If we don't, then they are what their record says they are.

 

[Cantdoitsal]

I hope we can somehow prove that this year. If we don't, then they are what their record says they are.

They have a record of struggling mightily against sub par teams and when they played a team with a pulse, got the schitt kicked outta them.

 

[OG Goat Holder]

The fan base really needs an injection of positive vibes to finish the football season. I'm hopeful Leach and company can oblige.

Otherwise the new AD will be walking into a tough situation 2023.

What's the tough situation? Leach being on the 'semi' hot seat? He's going to be fine at 7-5 no matter what.

Next year, if he loses to Ole Miss for the 4th time, at home, we can talk. If we lose that and finish 5-7, he's likely done. 6-6 and bowl (and loss to Ole Miss)? He may make it. Lose to Ole Miss AND USM? He's out, no one can survive that.

 

[The Cooterpoot]

To do that he has to beat the #1 team in the country at home or the #11 team in the country on the road. I hope there aren’t a lot of teams in the country requiring this out of their coach to decide if they are on the right path.

OM is nothing special. GA is in a ranked sandwich game on the road. Gives us a punchers chance (Damnit, I'm trying to be positive here)

 

[The Cooterpoot]

What's the tough situation? Leach being on the 'semi' hot seat? He's going to be fine at 7-5 no matter what.

Next year, if he loses to Ole Miss for the 4th time, at home, we can talk. If we lose that and finish 5-7, he's likely done. 6-6 and bowl (and loss to Ole Miss)? He may make it. Lose to Ole Miss AND USM? He's out, no one can survive that.

You might be surprised. Everyone knows the stadium will be empty next year if something positive doesn't happen to end this season. With a new AD, things are way more up in the air than they were.

 

[Perd Hapley]

He's got the chance with 4 games in November, to show us he's the guy and we're on the right path. That goes for some players too. Win 3 games out of 4. Get those 8 wins. Get that OM monkey off his back. Set is up for a huge year next year. Can he do it? Can this team get it done? Money is in for NIL. People are feeling a little fire for the program after Cohen slinked out with his bitter **** slinging. Leach and the team need to get it done.

There’s honestly no reason to expect an Egg Bowl win. We haven’t beaten an OM team with a winning record in Oxford in almost 25 years. Haven’t beaten any OM team that didn’t totally suck since 2013, home or away. Hard facts….and the vast majority of those games span 3 coaches who are not named Mike Leach.

Can we win? Sure, but it would be a pretty decent upset. This reads like fans who already don’t like Leach putting out unrealistic expectations as what has to happen, then bitching when the obvious, most likely result occurs. This was a schedule that was set up for a 7 win type season….8 if we were very lucky and 6 if we were unlucky. We’re tracking towards the median, which is fine. Next year….expectations should be a lot higher.

 

[Grover777]

What's the tough situation? Leach being on the 'semi' hot seat? He's going to be fine at 7-5 no matter what.

Next year, if he loses to Ole Miss for the 4th time, at home, we can talk. If we lose that and finish 5-7, he's likely done. 6-6 and bowl (and loss to Ole Miss)? He may make it. Lose to Ole Miss AND USM? He's out, no one can survive that.

That’s the narrative.

There’s honestly no reason to expect an Egg Bowl win. We haven’t beaten an OM team with a winning record in Oxford in almost 25 years. Haven’t beaten any OM team that didn’t totally suck since 2013, home or away. Hard facts….and the vast majority of those games span 3 coaches who are not named Mike Leach.

Can we win? Sure, but it would be a pretty decent upset. This reads like fans who already don’t like Leach putting out unrealistic expectations as what has to happen, then bitching when the obvious, most likely result occurs. This was a schedule that was set up for a 7 win type season….8 if we were very lucky and 6 if we were unlucky. We’re tracking towards the median, which is fine. Next year….expectations should be a lot higher.

great post Perd

someone posted mullens record against ole miss, it was something like 2-4 when they were a .500 team, do you have that ?

 

[peewee.sixpack]

My money is on beating UGA by 30, then losing to ETSU on a last minute field goal (either our miss or their make).

That is too optimistic. The realistic MSU scenario is we miss an extra point and lose by 1

 

[DoggieDaddy13]

There’s honestly no reason to expect an Egg Bowl win. We haven’t beaten an OM team with a winning record in Oxford in almost 25 years. Haven’t beaten any OM team that didn’t totally suck since 2013, home or away. Hard facts….and the vast majority of those games span 3 coaches who are not named Mike Leach.

Can we win? Sure, but it would be a pretty decent upset. This reads like fans who already don’t like Leach putting out unrealistic expectations as what has to happen, then bitching when the obvious, most likely result occurs. This was a schedule that was set up for a 7 win type season….8 if we were very lucky and 6 if we were unlucky. We’re tracking towards the median, which is fine. Next year….expectations should be a lot higher.

The chances of us winning the Egg Bowl in Oxford against OM are mighty damn slim. Maybe this the outlier game that Leach's team finds a way to win... but,
I would not count on it, Bulldog fans. With their running game and an improving Defense and J. Dart, I just hope we can keep it close, because when OM can humiliate us, they usually do.
And for god's sake don't help them with dumb penalties and turnovers.

 

[Perd Hapley]

That’s the narrative.

great post Perd

someone posted mullens record against ole miss, it was something like 2-4 when they were a .500 team, do you have that ?

Against OM teams that entered the Egg Bowl with 5 wins or more, he was 3-4. Beat an 8-win OM in 2009, a 7-win OM in 2013, and a 5-win OM in 2016. Lost to 5-win OM teams in 2012 and 2017 (those teams then finished with 6 wins). Lost to 8-win OM teams in 2014 and 2015, who both were NY6 teams.

Against teams entering the Egg Bowl with 4 wins or less, he was 2-0 (2010, 2011).

 

[Grover777]

Against OM teams that entered the Egg Bowl with 5 wins or more, he was 3-4. Beat an 8-win OM in 2009, a 7-win OM in 2013, and a 5-win OM in 2016. Lost to 5-win OM teams in 2012 and 2017 (those teams then finished with 6 wins). Lost to 8-win OM teams in 2014 and 2015, who both were NY6 teams.

Against teams entering the Egg Bowl with 4 wins or less, he was 2-0 (2010, 2011).

Thanks. Adds a little perspective doesn’t it

 

[Seinfeld]

To do that he has to beat the #1 team in the country at home or the #11 team in the country on the road. I hope there aren’t a lot of teams in the country requiring this out of their coach to decide if they are on the right path.

Leach put himself in this position by vomiting all over himself against UK. If he had won that game as people around the country expected him to, we wouldn’t be having this conversation

 

[Perd Hapley]

Leach put himself in this position by vomiting all over himself against UK. If he had won that game as people around the country expected him to, we wouldn’t be having this conversation

We were like a 3 point favorite at kickoff in that game. It was pretty much a toss up against a team on the road with equal talent, and an NFL caliber QB. Saying everyone around the country expected us to win would not be accurate.

 

[Seinfeld]

What's the tough situation? Leach being on the 'semi' hot seat? He's going to be fine at 7-5 no matter what.

Next year, if he loses to Ole Miss for the 4th time, at home, we can talk. If we lose that and finish 5-7, he's likely done. 6-6 and bowl (and loss to Ole Miss)? He may make it. Lose to Ole Miss AND USM? He's out, no one can survive that.

If Leach survives 6-6 in year 4 with 8 home games on the schedule and a 4th consecutive loss to OM, our new AD will not be receiving my vote of confidence.

 

[QuaoarsKing]

Leach put himself in this position by vomiting all over himself against UK. If he had won that game as people around the country expected him to, we wouldn’t be having this conversation

Bull ****. The same losers and pussies who have spent the last 3 years crying and bitching about Leach would still be doing so if we'd beaten Kentucky. They would have just moved the goal posts do something else.

 

[OG Goat Holder]

You might be surprised. Everyone knows the stadium will be empty next year if something positive doesn't happen to end this season. With a new AD, things are way more up in the air than they were.

That would be the biggest mistake we can make. Our best course of action right now is to ride this stability out. For once in our history, let's make the right decision. The potential rewards 2-3 years from now could be enormous. If we flop? It's just another day in the life for Mississippi State.

 

[OG Goat Holder]

Bull ****. The same losers and pussies who have spent the last 3 years crying and bitching about Leach would still be doing so if we'd beaten Kentucky. They would have just moved the goal posts do something else.

I was about to post the same thing. They were saying the same things about LSU until LSU proved to be a damn good team.

And Kentucky will still likely finish 8-4. Looking at it from 30,000', no one would pick us to go on the road and beat an 8-4 SEC team.

 

[QuaoarsKing]

And for the record I was very disappointed to have lost to Kentucky and think we should have won. However, only the absolute best teams win every game they are capable of winning in a given year - that's just the nature of sports - and Leach has done a better than average job in picking up wins that we are capable of winning.

 

[Perd Hapley]

And for the record I was very disappointed to have lost to Kentucky and think we should have won. However, only the absolute best teams win every game they are capable of winning in a given year - that's just the nature of sports - and Leach has done a better than average job in picking up wins that we are capable of winning.

We’ve probably played at least 30ish road games in the last decade against SEC teams that wound up being bowl eligible. I can think of 6 total that we won - 2014 LSU, 2015 Auburn, 2015 Arkansas, 2020 LSU, 2021 A&M, 2021 Auburn. Half of those are Leach, in only 2.5 years. He’s already almost matched what Mullen did in 9 years in that department. We won zero of those games in 2011, 2012, 2013, 2016, 2017, 2018, and 2019.

Overall fact - we simply don’t win those games often, no matter who the coach is. And we win even less against the 8+ win type teams, which is basically all of our road games this year.

 

[Ibdancin]

To do that he has to beat the #1 team in the country at home or the #11 team in the country on the road. I hope there aren’t a lot of teams in the country requiring this out of their coach to decide if they are on the right path.

Yeah, if that's the measurement for a coach, everybody everywhere will be fired..... every year.

 

[Ibdancin]

Leach put himself in this position by vomiting all over himself against UK. If he had won that game as people around the country expected him to, we wouldn’t be having this conversation

3 key injuries in that game!! Lol.

 

[Ibdancin]

We’ve probably played at least 30ish road games in the last decade against SEC teams that wound up being bowl eligible. I can think of 6 total that we won - 2014 LSU, 2015 Auburn, 2015 Arkansas, 2020 LSU, 2021 A&M, 2021 Auburn. Half of those are Leach, in only 2.5 years. He’s already almost matched what Mullen did in 9 years in that department. We won zero of those games in 2011, 2012, 2013, 2016, 2017, 2018, and 2019.

Overall fact - we simply don’t win those games often, no matter who the coach is. And we win even less against the 8+ win type teams, which is basically all of our road games this year.

And the truth is in the results as the team and program is being built.

Look at the upcoming talent etc....

 

[POTUS]

No explanation for this notion, but I think we’ve lost our last game this year. I also think Ole Miss has won their last.

 

[Cantdoitsal]

We were like a 3 point favorite at kickoff in that game. It was pretty much a toss up against a team on the road with equal talent, and an NFL caliber QB. Saying everyone around the country expected us to win would not be accurate.

Nobody expected our O to score 7 points.

 

[Cantdoitsal]

Our season has been totally based on our feast or famine Offense that has looked lights out at times and other times like a mule trying to impregnate a washing machine. The D will hold its own if we can score; that's been the case all year long and sometimes they hold their own when our O played like schit. 17 the history books as every year is a new chapter. Tsun will get exposed the remainder of the year and if we take care of business tomorrow we will be on the way to getting the egg back via the road. The only way that does not happen is if tsun surprises me and wins some more SEC games and we go into oxfart with the game deciding on them getting into a NY6 Bowl Game and then the refs will 17 us every chance they get. Right now I am pretty convinced we are the better team because I don't think they have the D to do to us what LSU, KY & Bamer did. I think our O can do to them what they did to A&M and Pig.

 

[GloryDawg]

I was never down on Cohen but did think he could have done better. I think he is a true dog but I feel like him leaving has given Miss State fans a breath of fresh air.

 

[IBleedMaroonDawg]

Accurate post…

even if we do win 3 of the last 4, there will be a head scratcher next year and the year after that. It’s leach at this point.

WE'RE DOOMED!

 

[The Cooterpoot]

We won 8+ games a year with some 9+ mixed in and I'm good.

 

[QuaoarsKing]

We won 8+ games a year with some 9+ mixed in and I'm good.

No coach in MSU history has ever averaged that.

Obviously I hope that Leach can, and I think his probability is as high as any other coach out there we could replace him with, but setting a goal like that just sets him up to fail in your eyes.