Mike Wallace

[esplanade91]

I'm sure you've all heard the Jason Collins story by now.

Moving on... Everyone on twitter has had the guy's back. Despite what your views are on homosexuality, Mike Wallace was the only notable person to come out and bash him for his "outting."

Is it me or can I not see a Mullen coached guy coming out and saying some bonehead comment like Mike Wallace? Greeeeaaaat ambassador for the University of Ole Miss.

 

[Requiem For A Dawg]

Here is the tweet:


@Wallace17_daKid All these beautiful women in the world and guys wanna mess with other guys SMH.

 

[mstateglfr]

I havent seen Wallace's comments. Up until just now, I was disappointed that he was no longer part of the Black and Gold Nation.
Now?...his personal views overshadow his contributions.

 

[patdog]

For the record, I agree with his tweets completely. Don't have a problem with anyone who is gay, but I really don't understand it. Actually, I can understand lesbians. I can totally see how anyone would be into hot women.

 

[maroonmania]

For the record, I agree with his tweets completely. Don't have a problem with anyone who is gay, but I really don't understand it. Actually, I can understand lesbians. I can totally see how anyone would be into hot women.

Well most lesbians are definitely NOT hot.

 

[thatsbaseball]

Wouldn`t he fall in the majority of the population in that he doesn`t really understand homosexuality ? He didn`t condemn it he just said he doesn`t get it. After he is absolutely nuked for making what he probably considered an innocent statement I`m sure he`ll be quite educated to both homosexuality and political correctness in the very near future.

 

[1reddog]

Well most lesbians are definitely NOT hot.

two words rosie o'donnell

 

[thatsbaseball]

Mullen can`t control his own mouth half the time

 

[DAWG61]

^^^^^this guy hates Dan Mullen.**

 

[thatsbaseball]

^^^^this guy can`t handle the truth**

 

[SkullCandy.sixpack]

Speaking of someone who can't be controlled, and has "oral" problems... http://sports.yahoo.com/news/lsu-rb-jeremy-hill-arrested-outside-bar-near-200614915.html oral problem http://www.nola.com/lsu/index.ssf/2011/01/lsu_football_commitment_jeremy.html

 

[patdog]

For the most part, the ones I know (not many) aren't all that bad. Not hot by any means. But not Rosie O'Donnell either.

 

[Bjarnason_Clucas]

For the record, I agree with his tweets completely. Don't have a problem with anyone who is gay, but I really don't understand it. Actually, I can understand lesbians. I can totally see how anyone would be into hot women.

The reason people have a problem with his tweet is because the majority of the population believes that homosexuality is NOT a choice but the way you are born. He is getting blasted because his tweet assumes that Jason Collins is making a choice which shows that he has a completely opposite belief on homosexuality than the majority of the people in this country. Plus, even if it is a choice his tweet implies there is something wrong with his "choice".

 

[seshomoru]

Doubt it's indicative of the type of person that goes through our programs.

It's just an example of someone who still thinks being gay is a choice mouthing off on something they are uneducated about.

Dan Mullen coaches a team in Mississippi. I GUARANTEE you he has some former players that thought the same thing as Wallace. They just aren't as good and don't have near as many twitter followers.

 

[maroonmania]

Yea, there are certainly exceptions all over, but generally it seems, just like the majority of gay men tend to be less masculine, the majority of lesbians tend to be somewhat less feminine. I'll leave it at that.

 

[tb2]

That is a hell of a stretch you made there.

It was very elitedawg of you. I bet you spend a lot of time over there.

If Mullen would give his left nut to have Mike Wallace on his team, i suggest you fire him immediately.

 

[mstateglfr]

Wouldn`t he fall in the majority of the population in that he doesn`t really understand homosexuality ? He didn`t condemn it he just said he doesn`t get it. After he is absolutely nuked for making what he probably considered an innocent statement I`m sure he`ll be quite educated to both homosexuality and political correctness in the very near future.

Sorry, but to call it an innocent statement is absurd. It was on the same day as Collins coming out.
And it is rooted in the view that sexual orientation is a choice.

I didnt choose to think girls are hot. Neither did you or any other guy. I never sat down on my porch at 11 or whatever age and contemplated if I would want to be attracted to men or women.
Likewise, Collins never made that choice.

Wallace's comment about how he doesnt 'get it' is odd, since there is nothing to get. It shows ignorance, and on a day when support is hopefully shown by all, it wasnt.
Its better to just be silent on things you are ignorant on- you may be a moron, but at least nobody else knows you are a moron.

 

[horshack.sixpack]

It's just an example of someone who still thinks being gay is a choice mouthing off on something they are uneducated about.

Dan Mullen coaches a team in Mississippi. I GUARANTEE you he has some former players that thought the same thing as Wallace. They just aren't as good and don't have near as many twitter followers.

This might get it locked, but I thought it was an interesting perspective...

http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/tgc/2012/07/19/gay-is-not-the-new-black/

 

[JackShephard]

i agree with the subject line of this post.

Everything else....notsomuch

 

[esplanade91]

Wouldn`t he fall in the majority of the population in that he doesn`t really understand homosexuality ? He didn`t condemn it he just said he doesn`t get it. After he is absolutely nuked for making what he probably considered an innocent statement I`m sure he`ll be quite educated to both homosexuality and political correctness in the very near future.

Polls show that the majority of Americans agree with gay marriage, not necessarily with homosexuality but that they should be left alone and allowed to do what they want.

Mike Wallace can think what he wants, and I'm sure there are a TOOOON of people think the same way as Wallace. It was inappropriate to tweet what he tweeted. Say it to your buds in person. No reason to blast it on twitter. Especially like an hour after the news broke.

I don't have a problem with homosexuality, but I would have a hard time sharing a locker room with someone who is openly gay. I think that's fair and I think MSU's players would feel the same way. What I'm saying though is I think Mullen would have a guy running stadiums for tweeting something like that. Goes back to our family atmosphere. I don't think it's BS used to get people to come here.

 

[SPMT]

It's just an example of someone who still thinks being gay is a choice mouthing off on something they are uneducated about.

Dan Mullen coaches a team in Mississippi. I GUARANTEE you he has some former players that thought the same thing as Wallace. They just aren't as good and don't have near as many twitter followers.

By your logic someone who is sexually attracted to children was born that way and cannot make a free choice.

Propensity to being gay....sure. However, there is choice involved. It's like saying your born being an alcoholic. You may have a propensity to being an alcoholic but your decision to drink is purely choice.

 

[horshack.sixpack]

The reason people have a problem with his tweet is because the majority of the population believes that homosexuality is NOT a choice but the way you are born. He is getting blasted because his tweet assumes that Jason Collins is making a choice which shows that he has a completely opposite belief on homosexuality than the majority of the people in this country. Plus, even if it is a choice his tweet implies there is something wrong with his "choice".

I like self-proclaimed "majority". Any data to suggest? I'd suspect that most people are more like sheep when it comes to cowing down to PC pressure and would rather look "enlightened" than risk the hatred and vitrol that come with expressing a different opinion than the most vocal talking heads. In fact I'd say a majority of people are that way! You need only look at the response to Mike Wallace for proof. He put out the truth, that he doesn't understand homosexuality and the PC police are ready to string him up...because he doesn't understand why roughly 5% of the population is the way that they are.

Heck, I'd say take any 5% demographic that you are not personally a part of and you most likely don't understand them. I'd even go so far as to say a majority of people wouldn't!

 

[seshomoru]

I'll entertain you for some reason.

There is a lack of study on pedophilia. Who knows, they may be born with that propensity, maybe something got screwed up in the brain along the way. However, that point falls apart with the simple concept of consent. There is a world of difference between two consenting adults versus an adult influencing a child. With pedophilia, one member of the party is being hurt. That's why we have laws to protect children. Maybe I'm wrong, but I doubt a gay man can hit on a straight man well enough to make him suck his dick. Gay man chose to take a shot. Straight man chose to shut it down. End of story. What's the harm? Two gay guys together? Two gay women together? A man and a woman together? What's the harm to either party in the relationship?

Alcoholism is a disease and an addiction and is irrelevant to anything about being gay. In fact, it's pretty infuriating when people say dumb **** like that.

 

[Maroonthirteen]

^^^^ YES! What he said.

I like self-proclaimed "majority". Any data to suggest? I'd suspect that most people are more like sheep when it comes to cowing down to PC pressure and would rather look "enlightened" than risk the hatred and vitrol that come with expressing a different opinion than the most vocal talking heads. In fact I'd say a majority of people are that way! You need only look at the response to Mike Wallace for proof. He put out the truth, that he doesn't understand homosexuality and the PC police are ready to string him up...because he doesn't understand why roughly 5% of the population is the way that they are.

Heck, I'd say take any 5% demographic that you are not personally a part of and you most likely don't understand them. I'd even go so far as to say a majority of people wouldn't!

As the Offspring sang, Do that brand new thing.

 

[JungRebel]

This is the obvious retort to the "It's NOT a choice!" crowd. However, it is still based around the myth of free will; and most who make the argument from determined genetics that you are attacking are afraid to tack on the conclusion that all of their own choices are in fact predetermined.

 

[mstateglfr]

ignant comparison

By your logic someone who is sexually attracted to children was born that way and cannot make a free choice.

Propensity to being gay....sure. However, there is choice involved. It's like saying your born being an alcoholic. You may have a propensity to being an alcoholic but your decision to drink is purely choice.

1- Yeah, there have been many examples where sexual attraction to children has been said to be innate.

2- Sexual attraction to children isnt the same because it is not a level playing field(adult-child). Many others take this route for power, which a level playing field(adult - adult) is created based on emotional feelings and attraction instead of power and manipulation.

3- I would not question someone who claims to have always been attracted to children and that they never made such a choice. But since they are engaging in said attraction, they are breaking laws and it is not acceptable. Again, not a level playing field because a minor is unable to give consent.

4- Have you really never heard of alcoholism being attributed to family genetics? I honestly have no idea what sort of research in this area exists or what the results are, but its a damn common viewpoint.

 

[Victory Red]

By your logic someone who is sexually attracted to children was born that way and cannot make a free choice.

Psychology tends to back this assertion as well. So you pretty much proved his point.

 

[Bjarnason_Clucas]

I like self-proclaimed "majority". Any data to suggest? I'd suspect that most people are more like sheep when it comes to cowing down to PC pressure and would rather look "enlightened" than risk the hatred and vitrol that come with expressing a different opinion than the most vocal talking heads. In fact I'd say a majority of people are that way! You need only look at the response to Mike Wallace for proof. He put out the truth, that he doesn't understand homosexuality and the PC police are ready to string him up...because he doesn't understand why roughly 5% of the population is the way that they are.

Heck, I'd say take any 5% demographic that you are not personally a part of and you most likely don't understand them. I'd even go so far as to say a majority of people wouldn't!

Ok. Here is the historical data going back 25 years:

As you can see, the largest percentage of people polled believe that Homosexuality is something that you are either born with or a combination of being genetically predisposed and environmental factors. Also, the trend is that more and more people now believe that it is not a choice.

 

[Victory Red]

This is the obvious retort to the "It's NOT a choice!" crowd. However, it is still based around the myth of free will; and most who make the argument from determined genetics that you are attacking are afraid to tack on the conclusion that all of their own choices are in fact predetermined.

ALL of their own choices are predetermined? That's a pretty damn stupid assertion.

 

[Barkman Turner Overdrive]

Who said anything about gay marriage? I am against gay marriage in a church, but I am also against somebody against getting tax breaks because he/she files married with other dependents over somebody who files single and 0. Once people realize the tax code we have today should thrown in the trash in favor of a consumption tax and health insurance is a benefit provided by employers instead of a "right", then this gay marriage debate goes away.

 

[JungRebel]

Oh? Solve the problem of free will for me then, become the most renowned philosopher of the 21st century. This will really put SPS on the map.

 

[Buford T. Justice]

By your logic someone who is sexually attracted to children was born that way and cannot make a free choice.

Propensity to being gay....sure. However, there is choice involved. It's like saying your born being an alcoholic. You may have a propensity to being an alcoholic but your decision to drink is purely choice.

This is a good point. Assuming for a minute that we were BORN heterosexual or homosexual and it is not a choice, then I guess I was born heterosexual. So why do I not cheat on my wife? Because I still make A CHOICE who I sleep with and who I don't. If as a heterosexual, I can make a choice, then why can homosexuals not make a choice? If I go have sex with some other guy's wife, I will admit to making a bad choice, not blame it on the way I was born.

I have a problem with homosexuality. Just like I have a problem with adultery, lying, stealing, murder, and other sins. Have I committed sins? You dang right I have. But I don't need someone to tell me I did nothing wrong and it is okay. If I lie, steal, or cheat on my wife, I have no problem with people telling me I screwed up.