Minooka
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Thinking being under .500 last 5 years and only beating 2or 3 teams with a winning record in that time frame has something to do with it.
Firing a coach at the HS level is questionable. Whats more important is what he does with the kids in the program. Do the kids feel good about being a part of it? Do they learn life lessons and grow as better people having been a part of the program?
A lot of coaches give it up before being fired... there has to be more to it than wins and losses.
A lot of coaches give it up before being fired... there has to be more to it than wins and losses.
Very tough situation these days here in the Minooka district. Older staff so your field of in house candidates is very limited and that includes the assistant coaching pool as well. School hasn't hired any new staff for more than a handful of years (using attrition to eliminate staff/ jobs saving $$$). Program has the worst athletic facilities in the entire Joliet area. Football side still doesn't seem to get the best athletes in the school....and also just seems to have fallen behind several other sports when it comes to overall appeal. School draws from three separate communities (Minooka/Channahon/Shorewood) who basically hate and don't trust each other (a battle that they have been fighting for decades now)...On the surface seems like a choice job..yet lots of issues here. Under the circumstances I thought Paul Forsythe did a good job considering.
I have long held that Minooka has underachieved relative to its abilities in the high profile sports. I have no answers for why the basketball and football programs have not had sustained success. Even its heralded baseball program only has one state semifinal appearance to its credit.
I do think Edgy's point about the mistrust between the communities is very true.
I do think Edgy's point about the mistrust between the communities is very true.
Look to Lincoln-Way 210 and watch how communities can battle even if they have multiple schools. April will be a community fight with alliances already drawn up with agendas for board seats. Yes a single school can very easily have these issues.
I don't know all the details. But at the root, they are three communities relatively close in proximity but that seem to be geographically separated from each other. It doesn't help that the feeder schools (my guess is 60% of kids come from Minooka grade school district, 35% from Channahon, and less than 5% from Troy) have long competed and been the big fish in a little pond simply because they have massive enrollments compared to most other middle schools/junior highs. Then in high school, most sports have not lived up to expectations. I have also seen them suffer from the "compete to win at all costs" mentality in grades 6/7/8 at the expense of player development. But I guess that is true of many K-8 districts as their 8th grade program becomes way more focused on winning than it would in a K-12 district.
Anyway, the school sports of baseball and basketball are not playing Marseilles, Seneca, Mazon, and Reed Custer as much as they used to, which is good. I also see the Chanooka Braves seem to have joined a more competitive youth football league in recent years, which will help them. I can only imagine the next 20 years will be more competitive than the last 20 years were for their boys sports programs.
So was the coach fired or resign?
Rumor has it he was offered a lesser role and resigned... not sure how credible that is...
Rumor has it he was offered a lesser role and resigned... not sure how credible that is...
Definitely! All stands to the status of the program and the direction its going!
Is the admin shallow enough to fire him because of wins and losses?
Did something happen that people within the district should know about?
A forum lime this gives people an opportunity to share truthes.
Edgy you know there is a HUGE DIFFERENCE between a firing and a resignation!
Here it is. The Coach was told he had the job for next year and had already began off-season workouts and establishing what the staff for 2017 would look like. Then last week he was relieved of his duties.
Is it wins? That is what he was told. Do I believe that? No.
I think someone or somebodys outside of the AD office isn't/aren't happy about something that happened outside of Wins or Losses. Because of it one of the few employees of Minooka HS that actually puts quality time in with kids outside of the school day is getting a raw deal.
Is it wins? That is what he was told. Do I believe that? No.
I think someone or somebodys outside of the AD office isn't/aren't happy about something that happened outside of Wins or Losses. Because of it one of the few employees of Minooka HS that actually puts quality time in with kids outside of the school day is getting a raw deal.
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Oh I get the need to know but my point being did anyone really need to wonder what the direction of the football program is/will be? I'll answer if for you...it will be the status quo once again.
Again same staffing issues remain my understanding is currently very few if any open spots to fill in the staff....and also hearing hire will again be made in house.
Someone in the district with an axe to grind? Shocker...same ole same ole sadly.
Don't get me wrong I live here...sent two kids who graduated from here and want Minooka to win.
I seem to always get a game that involves the same two teams for a certain sport. Coaches know my name, know my kids, blah blah blah.
One of the coaches was replaced last season. Much different feel and attitude for that game.
It's always a shame.