Mississippi State Sports Expectations...

[dawgstudent]

we have this discussion every few years so let's have it again.

Football (5 year period)
4 out of 5 years make a bowl
1 of those years - flirt with being in the upper crust (playoff and/or SEC title)

Basketball (5 year period)
3 out of 5 years make the tournament
1 year where you were close
1 year a dud

Baseball (10 year period)
9 out of 10 years make a regional
5 years make a super
3 years make CWS

 

[beachbumdawg]

we have this discussion every few years so let's have it again.

Football (5 year period)
4 out of 5 years make a bowl
1 of those years - flirt with being in the upper crust (playoff and/or SEC title)

Basketball (5 year period)
3 out of 5 years make the tournament
1 year where you were close
1 year a dud

Baseball (10 year period)
9 out of 10 years make a regional
5 years make a super
3 years make CWS

Football - should bowl every year
Basketball - so what - it died with Rick Ray so it’s hard to get excited about
Baseball- should make post season every - hosting 50-60% of the time - super 50-60%

Lemonis took us to the pinnacle but it’s been hard to watch since

 

[ckDOG]

I'm a more than happy fan meeting these expectations. Your job security as an AD or coach would be guaranteed for as long as you'd want it performing at those levels here.

 

[ToxicTimberDawg]

we have this discussion every few years so let's have it again.

Football (5 year period)
4 out of 5 years make a bowl
1 of those years - flirt with being in the upper crust (playoff and/or SEC title)

Basketball (5 year period)
3 out of 5 years make the tournament
1 year where you were close
1 year a dud

Baseball (10 year period)
9 out of 10 years make a regional
5 years make a super
3 years make CWS

Football - I no longer have expectations in the current CFB landscape. I just hope we are decent occasionally to help keep my apathy at bay (or get rid of present apathy)

MBKB- I like yours and with a good coach it's achievable. Not really that high of a bar so should be reasonable expectation.

baseball - agree mostly. Make a regional 9/10 year is reasonable. Once there, odds are you reach the other goals just based on probability %.

 

[Bulldog45]

Baseball (10 year period)
9 out of 10 years make a regional
5 years make a super
3 years make CWS

So basically we are on track with your expectations for baseball and good on the CWS metric through 2028. Unfortunately when you knock the 3 out the first 3 years (excluding the Covid year) it makes for a long wait.

 

[DerHntr]

we have this discussion every few years so let's have it again.

Football (5 year period)
4 out of 5 years make a bowl
1 of those years - flirt with being in the upper crust (playoff and/or SEC title)

Basketball (5 year period)
3 out of 5 years make the tournament
1 year where you were close
1 year a dud

Baseball (10 year period)
9 out of 10 years make a regional
5 years make a super
3 years make CWS

I used to agree with you about football but don’t any longer. The landscape has changed and we are less capable of keeping up. I only have minor changes. I have small changes for basketball and baseball as well.

Football (5 year period)
3 out of 5 years make a bowl
1 of those years - flirt with being ranked in the top 25 as bowl season begins. It’s nice to be ranked for the bowl game.

Basketball (5 year period)
2 out of 5 years make the tournament
2 years where you were close
1 year a dud

Baseball (10 year period)
9 out of 10 years make a regional
4 years make a super
2 years make CWS

 

[615dawg]

we have this discussion every few years so let's have it again.

Football (5 year period)
4 out of 5 years make a bowl
1 of those years - flirt with being in the upper crust (playoff and/or SEC title)

Basketball (5 year period)
3 out of 5 years make the tournament
1 year where you were close
1 year a dud

Baseball (10 year period)
9 out of 10 years make a regional
5 years make a super
3 years make CWS

In the era of 88 of 130 teams making a bowl game, Mississippi State should make a bowl game every year. Once every five years, we should have a season where we spend most of it in the Top 25 and have playoff hopes in November (if playoff is expanded to 16).

In the 16-team SEC era, both basketball teams should make the postseason every year, with 3/4 being NCAA. LSU and South Carolina made the NIT this year, but declined. 1 out of 5 years we should be a top 5 seed.

Baseball should make a regional every year and host 50% of the time. It's a funny game so I actually think getting to Omaha is the hardest thing to do in college sports. We should be there once or twice a decade though.

 

[DawgInThe256]

Those are pretty good, plus one more. Given the resources we devote to baseball we should be in contention for the SEC title going into the last weekend 2-3 times in a 10 year period. I don't really care much about the SEC tournament, by the time the weekend rolls around it's mostly bullpen games.

 

[GloryDawg]

 

[JackShephard]

Football (5 years)
5 National Championships

Basketball (5 years)
5 National Championships

Baseball (10 year)
10 National Championships.


Easy!

 

[retire the banner]

Football - should bowl every year
Basketball - so what - it died with Rick Ray so it’s hard to get excited about
Baseball- should make post season every - hosting 50-60% of the time - super 50-60%

Lemonis took us to the pinnacle but it’s been hard to watch since

We made 1 bad basketball hire and now the program is dead? Welcome to 2025, We’ve been to the NCAAT 3 straight seasons…

 

[dawgstudent]

Basketball - so what - it died with Rick Ray so it’s hard to get excited about

 

[tbaydog]

BaseBall - CWS every Year
Basketball - Sweet 16 every year
Fball - New Years Day, every year

 

[Drebin]

we have this discussion every few years so let's have it again.

Football (5 year period)
4 out of 5 years make a bowl
1 of those years - flirt with being in the upper crust (playoff and/or SEC title)

Basketball (5 year period)
3 out of 5 years make the tournament
1 year where you were close
1 year a dud

Baseball (10 year period)
9 out of 10 years make a regional
5 years make a super
3 years make CWS

Football should go bowling every year. There's no reason we can't go 2-6 or 3-5 in conference every year.

Basketball, I think we should go to the tourney 3/5 years like you say, but with the portal, a dud should never happen unless it was a unique situation with injuries or something.

Baseball, our expectation should be hosting a regional every year while moving on to the supers at least half of those years. If that happens, we'll get our CWS appearances.

 

[UpTheMiddlex3Punt]

I expect disappointment

 

[AttalaDawg72]

we have this discussion every few years so let's have it again.

Football (5 year period)
4 out of 5 years make a bowl
1 of those years - flirt with being in the upper crust (playoff and/or SEC title)

Basketball (5 year period)
3 out of 5 years make the tournament
1 year where you were close
1 year a dud

Baseball (10 year period)
9 out of 10 years make a regional
5 years make a super
3 years make CWS

I’d take this in a heartbeat tbh

 

[greenbean.sixpack]

NCAA tourney will likely be expanded in the next year or so, so I expect the tourney every year.

 

[Maroon Eagle]

we have this discussion every few years so let's have it again.

Football (5 year period)
4 out of 5 years make a bowl
1 of those years - flirt with being in the upper crust (playoff and/or SEC title)

Basketball (5 year period)
3 out of 5 years make the tournament
1 year where you were close
1 year a dud

Baseball (10 year period)
9 out of 10 years make a regional
5 years make a super
3 years make CWS

Football — DOOM

Basketball — DOOM

Baseball — Always hoping for a NATTY!

 

[Wesson Bulldog]

The worst so I am not disappointed, hoping for the best so I can be pleasantly surprised once every 5-8 years.

 

[BulldogBlitz]

Football 5 year
5 nattys

Basketball 5 year
5 nets from the final four

Baseball 10 year
10 dog piles in Omaha


Expecting and accepting less is how we got here.

 

[SoTexDawg]

we have this discussion every few years so let's have it again.

Football (5 year period)
4 out of 5 years make a bowl
1 of those years - flirt with being in the upper crust (playoff and/or SEC title)

Basketball (5 year period)
3 out of 5 years make the tournament
1 year where you were close
1 year a dud

Baseball (10 year period)
9 out of 10 years make a regional
5 years make a super
3 years make CWS

Football - Bowl every year, make the playoffs every 3-4 years (which will be going to 16 or 32 teams soon)
Basketball - Big Dance 3 out of every 5 years, the 2 off years, need to make NIT, make run to Sweet 16 or beyond once every 5 years
Baseball - Hosting Regionals every year, College World Series 5 years out of 10, Natty once every 10 years.

Let's shoot higher and do better

 

[Seinfeld]

we have this discussion every few years so let's have it again.

Football (5 year period)
4 out of 5 years make a bowl
1 of those years - flirt with being in the upper crust (playoff and/or SEC title)

Basketball (5 year period)
3 out of 5 years make the tournament
1 year where you were close
1 year a dud

Baseball (10 year period)
9 out of 10 years make a regional
5 years make a super
3 years make CWS

I’m curious as to how yall feel these play into the decision about keeping or not keeping a coach.

For example, I put Lebby’s chance of making a bowl at around 0.5% this Fall, meaning that he’s already missed the first requirement in year 2

Then for baseball, Lemonis’s two abominations in ‘22 and ‘23 means that he’s already missed point one. Then, I also have a suspicion that this will be 4 years in a row without hosting, making a super, or a CWS, so where does that leave us?

 

[Drebin]

I’m curious as to how yall feel these play into the decision about keeping or not keeping a coach.

For example, I put Lebby’s chance of making a bowl at around 0.5% this Fall, meaning that he’s already missed the first requirement in year 2

Then for baseball, Lemonis’s two abominations in ‘22 and ‘23 means that he’s already missed point one. Then, I also have a suspicion that this will be 4 years in a row without hosting, making a super, or a CWS, so where does that leave us?

My theory on retaining coaches is the way I've always felt and it's pretty simple:

When you know, you know. Keeping a guy around hoping he's going to turn it around is a fool's errand.

We've known with Lemonis for three years, and his performance, or lack thereof, speaks for itself. Lebby's inability to get playmakers on defense and to double down on terrible coaches is a pretty huge red flag. He's not going to get us where we need to be this year, but we need to see drastic improvement, or he needs to go too.

The stakes are too high to be rolling with mediocre or "learn on the job" coaches.

That goes for the athletic director, too.

 

[Boosh]

we have this discussion every few years so let's have it again.

Football (5 year period)
4 out of 5 years make a bowl
1 of those years - flirt with being in the upper crust (playoff and/or SEC title)

Basketball (5 year period)
3 out of 5 years make the tournament
1 year where you were close
1 year a dud

Baseball (10 year period)
9 out of 10 years make a regional
5 years make a super
3 years make CWS

For State, I think this is truly pure dreamland stuff. Current reality is so far away from this its demoralizing.

Football
- Hope we look competitive in games. Next year, hope we get close to winning an SEC game before we set the record for losses in a row.
Basketball
- Hope we don't have another late season collapse and limp into the tournament and lose first game, yet again.
Baseball
- Hope we can be a winning program that intimidates everyone who comes to town. Has any program fallen this bad in such a short time ever? Such a State thing to do.

I continue to be amazed at how inept the MSU athletics are when every graduate I know is highly successful. The discrepancy is incredible.

 

[Shmuley]

Here's my expectations:

For big three sports: Don't suck all the time.

For 6Pack Board Mod/Owner: Don't post sunshine pumping $h!+ after an unexpected win over A&M and 17 up the tourney seeding by having the dead injuns call down a 1-4 finish.