Mississippi wont be winning the West this year

[Coach34]

0-3 vs us and UPig- with the last one left in Fayetteville

 

[RebelBruiser]

Name me one good coach in the SEC West, and by that I mean one coach that can draw up a play, have a game plan, and actually occasionally get his players to execute it.

If Stansbury keeps you guys in the zone for 40 minutes, we don't score 40 points. He's so dumb though that he kept you in man half the game.

The West is a war of who can suck the least, and you're right, it won't be us. How AK bumbles away this much talent still baffles me.

It may be another year where 8-8 wins the division, or 9-7 at most. Maybe we'll get a rematch with you guys in the NIT.

 

[Coach34]

but you guys dont have as much talent as we do...other than White, nobody you have could start for us. Warren is pretty good, but even with Bost's turnovers, give me a 6'3 PG over a midget any day.

I dont think ya'll have any better talent than UPig. If Fortson plays all season, they are easily a 16-7 team too

I see a player problem for you guys, not a coaching problem

 

[HighPointDawg]

talk bad about Ole Miss and stick in a MSU jab or two... but

If Stansbury keeps you guys in the zone for 40 minutes, we don't score
40 points. He's so dumb though that he kept you in man half the game.

that is a pretty stupid quote. Ole Miss scored 8 consecutive points against our Zone in the 2nd half.. both Warren and White were being owned by Bost and Stewart in man and the rest of your team just does a bunch of spin moves and hopes they are facing the right way when the ball shoots out of their hands. We won the game in man defense, it is what we do. We almost lost the game by giving up 40 points on the fact we can't dribble and probably 20 more on offensive rebounds because the bricks were going over even JV's head.

Also, I wish I could find the posts from last year where you were telling us about how White would be the best player in the SEC this year.. I know the NBA is about "potential" and not always actually being good but from what I've seen of that guy I would take Stewart over him.

 

[dosequisdawg]

he's made a considerable effort to convince everyone that pelphrey, kennedy, and grant are excellent coaches.

 

[RebelBruiser]

he's made a considerable effort to convince everyone that pelphrey, kennedy, and grant are excellent coaches.

And he's wrong. The jury is out on Grant, since this is his first year, but I haven't seen much from Pelphrey or Kennedy in their ability to get a team to execute a gameplan and then adjust when the other team makes adjustments.

Give Tom Izzo any team in the SEC West outside of LSU and he probably wins the thing. It would be a colossal mismatch to watch a coach like that go up against the likes of Kennedy, Pelphrey, Stans, etc.

And I think Stans is one of the better floor coaches in the bunch. He's definitely out-coached Kennedy a couple times this year now.

 

[basedog]

"I see a player problem for you guys, not a coaching problem "
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Kennedy has some talent, but he doesn't always coach like an experience coach. Fact is, he and Stans are very similiar except Stans has had much more success, the verdict is still out on Kennedy as I don't believe we will achieve what Stans has done for Msu basketball.

 

[RebelBruiser]

but you guys dont have as much talent as we do...other than White, nobody you have could start for us. Warren is pretty good, but even with Bost's turnovers, give me a 6'3 PG over a midget any day.

I dont think ya'll have any better talent than UPig. If Fortson plays all season, they are easily a 16-7 team too

I see a player problem for you guys, not a coaching problem

That's your opinion, but regardless of where our talent ranks, we take way too many bad shots to be a well-coached team, and we look lost both defensively and offensively way too often to be a well-coached team.

If talent is part of our problem, it's only a small part of it. The way we utilize the talent we have is not very good.

 

[DerHntr]

C34 talking up an OM coach while RebelBruiser talks him down. my my my....how ironic.

 

[Coach34]

"I see a player problem for you guys, not a coaching problem "
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Kennedy has some talent, but he doesn't always coach like an experience coach. Fact is, he and Stans are very similiar except Stans has had much more success, the verdict is still out on Kennedy as I don't believe we will achieve what Stans has done for Msu basketball.

Kennedy does a better job in game than Stansbury does. Kennedy simply hasnt had the talent we have. That falls on him too. If he cant get the players there, then it will be his undoing. Personally, if Kennedy doesnt get them in the Tourney this season or next, his *** should be gone too. He got a couple of years to rebuild because its a ****** program, but its time he started producing.
Kennedy is Bizarro Stansbury- can win OOC but struggles in conference for some reason

 

[Johnson85]

Give Tom Izzo any team in the SEC West outside of LSU and he probably wins the thing. It would be a colossal mismatch to watch a coach like that go up against the likes of Kennedy, Pelphrey, Stans, etc.

And I think Stans is one of the better floor coaches in the bunch. He's definitely out-coached Kennedy a couple times this year now.

Iguess you can't just go out and identify and buy a good basketball coach like you can a football coach, but I'm amazed more effort hasn't been made by teams in the SEC West to open the purse strings for a coach.The division is full of mediocre teams with mediocre or worsecoaching. The first team to make a good hire is going to be able to dominate the West for at least 3 or 4 years. And since apparently it's ok to suck at basketball, they might get to dominate for longer.

At leastwith Brady, Gottfried, and Stansseveral years ago you had good talent with bad coaching.There'snot a team in the West I wouldwant to watch this year without being a fan.

And as faras Kennedy, I really thought he was going to be good after his first year.He's certainly not as good as I expected, but I still think he primarily has a talent problem. You switchhim and stansbury and Ithink he wins the Westhandily.Unlessone of the newer coaches pans out, I think Kennedy is still the tallest midget coach in the West as far as gettinghis playersto play up to their ability, even if he's not particularly good at some of the other aspects of being a head coach.

 

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[FurnitureDog]

I believe that Alabama is paying Grant $2 million a year. In my book, that's a ton of money for a basketball coach.

 

[basedog]

Kennedy does some questionable subbing and he's not consistent with his on the floor adjustments. He knows as others you keep pressure on Bost and you trap Msu as much as you can to wear us down. He didn't do that enough, also he lets his emotion play into his players head. Also they don't go to there "go to guys" enough, Terrico White is very talented and he is a shell of himself right now and Kennedy is at fault on him. Chris Warren is another mystery, I realize he is coming off knee operation but still with the subbing Kennedy does with those two is stupid.
Btw, in the two games this year, Stans has out coached Kennedy, there's no doubt about that!

 

[Hanmudog]

What does it take to make some of you realize that Stansbury is a better coach than Kennedy? We swept them this seasoneven thoughthey have been ranked for most of the year. Kennedy is not trotting out a bunch of scrappy untalented players for Pete's sake. To say that AK would win the West if he was State's coach is not grounded in any kind of reality.

NCAA trips for Kennedy in 5 years at UM andCincinatti= zero

 

[RebelBruiser]

What does it take to make some of you realize that Stansbury is a better coach than Kennedy? We swept them this seasoneven thoughthey have been ranked for most of the year. Kennedy is not trotting out a bunch of scrappy untalented players for Pete's sake. To say that AK would win the West if he was State's coach is not grounded in any kind of reality.

NCAA trips for Kennedy in 5 years at UM andCincinatti= zero

But he lives on the bubble. It's a little bit like the Houston Nutt thing EDSBS put up the other day. No matter what you put in, he gives you hamburger. 3 of his 4 teams have gone into the final weeks on the bubble only to come up a win or two short of an NCAA bid, the only exception being last year's kneepocalypse. He's lived in that zone, and it looks like we'll make it 4 out of 5 teams this year when we come up a win or two shy of an NCAA bid again. I'm sure had we not had loads of knee injuries last year, we'd have found our way to a win or two shy of an NCAA bid then as well.

Give him a team with long odds of making the tourney, he'll take them to the brink. Give him a team that should be a lock for the tourney, he'll coach them just barely out of it.

 

[BiscuitEater]

"I see a player problem for you guys, not a coaching problem "Kennedy has some talent, but he doesn't always coach like an experience coach. Fact is, he and Stans are very similiar except Stans has had much more success, the verdict is still out on Kennedy as I don't believe we will achieve what Stans has done for Msu basketball.

Kennedy does a better job in game than Stansbury does. Kennedy simply hasnt had the talent we have.

I thought that was the excuse for the reb team 'last' year when they lost three players including Warren. This year, the dogs have had the injuries that have forced too many starters to play too many minutes.They have not lost a 'starter' unless you count Baily but he contributed last year and Bost seriously needs to take a few minutes off when he is pressing like he did last night.

All said, Stans outcoached AK in Oxford and the Hump. If any MSU football coach were to 'ever' win SEC games at the same rate and'owns' his in-state rival like Stans, they will rename the University after him.

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