Mitchell and Murphy

Mitchell county mountie

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So, between bulldog and mountaineer fans, the hum has been about this potential matchup. As of now, Mitchell would get home field. Assuming both are 100%, (Mitchell is, not sure about Murphy) who do you think would win? Here are some various stats via unadjusted maxpreps rankings.

Mitchell's rank is 3751

Murphy's is 4034

Mitchell's record is 9-2

Murphy's is 9-1

Mitchell's opponent average rank is 8052 with an average record of 5-6

Murphy's opponent average rank is 9394 with an average record of 4-6

Mitchell has outscored opponents 470-164 with 2 shutouts

Murphy has outscored opponents 407-129 with 1 shutout.

It is worth noting that Mitchell has played one more game than Murphy, both have similar losses to strong 2a teams, and both beat Franklin at home, by 21. Murphy 35-14 and Mitchell 41-20, keeping in line with total scoring on the season. It looks like Mitchell's offense may be a touchdown better than Murphy's, but the bulldogs defense may be better than the Mountaineers by a touchdown.

Correction: Mitchell's average score is 43-15

Murphy's is 41-13. So maybe not a touchdown either way, Veeery close.
 

murphy1981

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So, between bulldog and mountaineer fans, the hum has been about this potential matchup. As of now, Mitchell would get home field. Assuming both are 100%, (Mitchell is, not sure about Murphy) who do you think would win? Here are some various stats via unadjusted maxpreps rankings.

Mitchell's rank is 3751

Murphy's is 4034

Mitchell's record is 9-2

Murphy's is 9-1

Mitchell's opponent average rank is 8052 with an average record of 5-6

Murphy's opponent average rank is 9394 with an average record of 4-6

Mitchell has outscored opponents 470-164 with 2 shutouts

Murphy has outscored opponents 407-129 with 1 shutout.

It is worth noting that Mitchell has played one more game than Murphy, both have similar losses to strong 2a teams, and both beat Franklin at home, by 21. Murphy 35-14 and Mitchell 41-20, keeping in line with total scoring on the season. It looks like Mitchell's offense may be a touchdown better than Murphy's, but the bulldogs defense may be better than the Mountaineers by a touchdown.

Correction: Mitchell's average score is 43-15

Murphy's is 41-13. So maybe not a touchdown either way, Veeery close.


#10 for Murphy is a difference maker. Very tough to get down if he gets in the secondary. Him running the ball in the 4th quarter will wear down many defenses.
 
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mbdfan_rivals121259

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#10 for Murphy is a difference maker. Very tough to get down if he gets in the secondary. Him running the ball in the 4th quarter will wear down many defenses.
Yeah not many DB's stand a chance against a 230 lb runaway train
 

KW2346

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Murphy wins based off experience no matter where the game is...mitchells homefield and pregame walk through the big bad woods dont intimidate smc teams. Murphy has been there and done that more than mitchell has. Hope the game is at mitchell so i dont have to drive as far. lol. Game isnt going to happen though bc my Alleghany squad is going to knock them both out...lol
 

SitOut

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So if both go 1a what's the seeding look like? Will this be the 2 and 3 seed with this game being played in the 3rd round? Does TJ get the 1 and a possible game with Rville as the 4th seed?
 

smcdogfan

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I would think Murphy gets the nod in the experience department . I said it earlier this year and I will say it again I would give their line backers (arguably some of the best you will see) and a secondary that knows how to find the football the edge . I just feel like Mitchell's strengths play into what our defense excels at. I think we are banged up alot more at the moment .

I think we have the best player on the field when #32 is healthy .Anyone who has watched him play knows why.
 

KW2346

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Sitout u r correct...tja has 1 seed on lock. So basically robbinsville will play the winner of mitchell murphy game 4th round.
 

Cdoc73

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What strength does Murphy have to exploit a Mitchell weakness that would bring you to that conclusion?
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What strength does Murphy have to exploit a Mitchell weakness that would bring you to that conclusion?
Well my opinion on your strength question, first off there coach learned his offence from.murphy, the coaches daughter is from Murphy, coach went to collage collage with Murphy coach, my opinion Murphy can run wing t better and they know what to do to stop it, so power on that goes to murpMu, my opinion , .
 

SitOut

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Sitout u r correct...tja has 1 seed on lock. So basically robbinsville will play the winner of mitchell murphy game 4th round.
Kind of what I was thinking. However it plays out we will be blessed with some great 1a games
 

Mitchell county mountie

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I’m gonna go out on a limb and say that kid weighs at minimum 25lbs less than Murphy’s haha.
Good guess. He is listed at 175, but has really bulked up this season. Probably around 200 at this point, but with about a 5 inch advantage. Our #10 is a wide receiver. #2 is our bruising tailback. He is around 6-1, 210. Both are very hard to tackle down field, along with #7.
 

mbdfan_rivals121259

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Meh, No. 32 for Murphy is the player. I’d tale 11 of him any day
#32 has been healthy for all of 1 quarter this year. He's still had a good season but I would've liked to have seen what he could have done this year at 100%. I agree though, #32 is a beast, especially when healthy.
 
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mbdfan_rivals121259

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Meh, No. 32 for Murphy is the player. I’d tale 11 of him any day
#10 was playing with a hip injury at North Stanly last year Griddie, got maybe 3 touches that game because of it and it finally gave out on him at the end of the game, he didn't play at all against Mt Airy. I wish you couldve seen #10 at his best, he is fun to watch.
 

Gwytoli

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im not trying to be anyway...but don’t give TJ the hype. Cherokee played them last year and after the 1st quarter the physicality was showing on them. They didn’t want another hit. I got a couple clips if anyone needs it.
 

Mitchell county mountie

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im not trying to be anyway...but don’t give TJ the hype. Cherokee played them last year and after the 1st quarter the physicality was showing on them. They didn’t want another hit. I got a couple clips if anyone needs it.

This has been touched on. While I think the Gryphons are pretty good, their line will wear out the deeper they go in the playoffs, and when the pads get to really popping, they will run out of gas. Playing in the SMC preps you for any physicality that the playoffs can throw at you, and the same with the WHC, with Mitchell, Heritage, Madison (yes, Madison is always very physical) and Polk.
 

Magnum45

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After seeing the Murphy and robbinsville scores Friday I think they are in serious trouble vs Mitchell. Highly overrated teams.
 

mbdfan_rivals121259

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Murphy's starters outscored Cherokee 37-7 in the second half. Murphy players bought into the hype and thought Cherokee would just roll over for them, instead Cherokee came out and smacked them in the mouth. 'Dogs played a bad first half of football, these are teenagers, it happens. They showed their true colors with a dominate seconf half performance.
 

SitOut

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I agree with mbd, Murphy took care of business in the 2nd half. Its not uncommon to have a bad half of football.

As for Robbinsville, they have had some close games here lately but they did get the wins. It could be the open week first week of the season. That is a long haul to play straight through especially in the SMC. Either way I don't think anyone has said they are better than Murphy or Mitchell but I think they are good enough to get the win against either if things bounced their way.
 
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Magnum45

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Gtfoh with that dude. You done the same thing last year with Cherokee and they rolled Mitchell hard. Until Mitchell can prove that they can win a big time game, they are the underdogs.

Dude I'm actually praising your team. All I hear about is this SMC talk and outside of Robbinsville and Murphy that conference is literally trash this year. I admire what Robbinsville does for such a little school but the fact that Andrews even scored on them tells me something. Mitchell would beat Andrew to death if they played and I highly doubt they would score. And before the Andrews fan on here has a meltdown and post about leaving I'm not bashing your team because I know you are a very small school and have little to choose from.
 

Wildcat10fan

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I think you all would agree that at this point of the season every team is banged up. After 10 or 11 games every team in the state has some players that are not 100% and of course some have more than others. It’s been a long season and no one is exempt and no one can use it as a excuse. It’s football and you just have to line up with what you have
 
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Dude, your actually a prick with how you present things and you sound like a rich, pansy, duche bag that mom and dad always gave to with a silver spoon!!! Like mountie is sayin, they were suppose to beat us to death last year and we all seen what happened there, Mitchell played "worst game" in school history and we went on to win state by tha skin of our teeth in tha worst year ever!!! Until Murphy adms come out ain't this like cart in front of horse conversation anyway!??
 

Mitchell county mountie

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Until Murphy adms come out ain't this like cart in front of horse conversation anyway!??
I'm not implying that the matchup will happen. I just like to point out how similar these two teams are. Close in ADM's, close in team size, close skill players, close line. 2 good coaches, one winding down, one on the rise. Hell, even Pitmans offensive playbook is dang near exact to Gentrys. The history is lopsided albeit, but Mitchell has become a yearly power, with Pitman reloading after 2 huge graduating classes and not missing a beat. It is nice to see some new faces competing, that's one reason why I'm not bashing TJ. That, and I think they are doing things the right way. As I said before, until the Mountaineers get over the hump and shake that dang monkey off their back, they will be the underdogs. Sometimes I can't help but think that we might be destined to be the new West Montgomery; good enough to get there, but never win...
 

Old Mountaineer

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Well we don't even know yet of a possible Mitchell - Murphy match up because the state hasn't decided if Murphy will be in the 1AA (like last year) or 1A playoffs.
 

WNCfbbbfan

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Well my opinion on your strength question, first off there coach learned his offence from.murphy, the coaches daughter is from Murphy, coach went to collage collage with Murphy coach, my opinion Murphy can run wing t better and they know what to do to stop it, so power on that goes to murpMu, my opinion , .

I thought Mitchell got/gets their offense from Heritage. Did they get their double handoff play from Murphy? That’s the only play that I’ve seen them run that Heritage doesn’t run.
 

Mitchell county mountie

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I thought Mitchell got/gets their offense from Heritage. Did they get their double handoff play from Murphy? That’s the only play that I’ve seen them run that Heritage doesn’t run.
Nope. Pitman has pretty much copied Gentrys offense. I don't know if Murphy runs the double buck or if that is a Coach Pitman thing...