MJ's top 5 coach options if Stoops doesn't work out...

[Mr Schwump]

Coaching at the D1 FBS level is a business, folks forget this. Brohm would listen to a UK offer and may even bite on it. You do what is best for you and yours. The UL angle IMO is way over blown and frankly a bit silly.

Brohm may pass if offered for the same reason other candidates would;for whatever reason(s) UK has been a killing field for coaches.

I'd go along with this re Brohm. At this point in his life this is a job, he has to provide for his family. It's business. Don't forget Vince Dooley, and Auburn grad, coached at Georgia the same time Pat Dye, a Georgia grad, coached at Auburn. Strange things happen.

Besides, didn't Jurich fire Brohm off the Kragthorpe staff? Would you go work for somebody who fired you previously?

 

[catfando]

I'm about sick of hearing about Mike Leach. Good coach, but not ever gonna turn us into a competitive program in the SEC. To me, he doesn't produce sustainability.

 

[Rockford]

Re Brohm....... millions of dollars will make a man change colors.

At least until the UL job opens. Wouldn't that be a helluva story?

 

[jnewc2_rivals30628]

Rex Ryan will be a coordinator in the NFL if/when he gets fired from the Bills.

 

[Mikey Likes It]

In a weak moment I was thinking all we need is someone who wins. It has been a long 60 years of Kentucky football; and this season is damned depressing. Makes you have weak thoughts. So I retract the "my thoughts exactly about L. Kiffen".

He doesn't even have the hot wife in tow anymore so I'm really not sure what he would bring to the table other than his dads last name, but at this point.... meh. I'm numb.

 

[Mikey Likes It]

Why no Mike Leach?

Likely for this reason

http://www.cbssports.com/college-fo...mike-leachs-epic-participation-trophies-rant/

0-2 to start the year so its kind of a lateral move

 

[TBCat]

Doesn't Brohm and his entire family hate UK? I think he's waiting for Petrino to slip up at UofL and then he'll take that job.

Maybe but they would change if he's at UK. Despite what people think of Petrino I suspect he's at UL for a very long time. Might even retire there if he doesn't slip up again first. Besides just do what Western did with Petrino. Put a buy out in his contract and let someone pay us for a change.

 

[ukalumni00]

Would call Tressel the second his show clause runs out. Get him early on before others come calling and they will come calling.

Huge national name, proven bigtime winner, excellent recruiter, is older and would very likely retire at UK much like Brooks did, would help keep the pipeline in OH open, etc. Now, whether he wants to coach again or if he thinks UK is too much for him at this point in his career is a totally different story. You have to approach him and try.

UK needs a sure thing right now who can use all of the resources UK has invested in to his advantage to get this program off the mat and build its brand to have a legit shot at a young stud down the road who would stick around awhile.

 

[Kats23]

Brohm is a professional coach and professional coaches forget about where they played and who their family dislikes. Green becomes a very important color. Jeff is a family orientated guy and the safe assumption is he would like to stay in state. Unless Bobby catches fire this year and goes to another big school, that only leaves UK. Kentucky needs to jump on Brohm before it's too late.

 

[The_Godfather_rivals]

At this point, I'd be more worried about who would be doing the hiring as opposed to who we hire.

Any process would need to begin with guys who have shown the ability to successfully operate as a head coach.

 

[Shavers48]

Does anyone recall seeing if barnhart got or sought input from Brooks on the Stoops hire? I mean, he'd ask him to consult on his first FB hire...which ultimately wound up being Brooks. You'd think he would have gotten input from the only guy he brought in that did a decent job.

 

[The_Godfather_rivals]

Brohm is a professional coach and professional coaches forget about where they played and who their family dislikes. Green becomes a very important color. Jeff is a family orientated guy and the safe assumption is he would like to stay in state. Unless Bobby catches fire this year and goes to another big school, that only leaves UK. Kentucky needs to jump on Brohm before it's too late.

The irony in all of this Brohm talk and how he wouldn't come to UK because he played at UofL is that Schnellenberger was an All-American at UK.

 

[BluffaloSlim]

Art Briles

Mitch won't give him a second thought, but he is my choice.

Pisses me off.. We will never know if he has any interest.

 

[The_Godfather_rivals]

Dkes anyone recall seeing if barnhart got or sought input from Brooks on the Stoops hire? I mean, he'd ask him to consult on this first FB hire...which ultimately wound up being Brooks. You'd think he would have gotten input from th only guy he br

I don't think he was involved. At least, I've never seen it mentioned before.

I think there was some animosity and hard feelings between Brooks and Barnhart during the Joker era. It makes little to no sense that UK didn't really celebrate nor meaningfully honor him after he retired and also have no doubt that he was pissed off at how Joker managed to fire all of his staff.

In my mind, the only reason Brooks wanted Joker as the coach in waiting is that he was promised that the staff would remain employed at UK after he left. I'm fairly sure that Joker fired nearly the entire staff within 1 year.

 

[BluffaloSlim]

We have a smaller chance of landing Rex or Lane... So unrealistic.

Briles is only unrealistic because of Mitch. He may or may not be interested in this job, but we will never know.

Rex and Lane would never take this job

 

[maverick1rw]

One name no one has mentioned is Bo Pelini.

For a good reason, why would anyone ?

 

[gobigblue812_rivals29381]

Brohm isn't getting the LSU job if it opens up. LSU will get its choice of coaches. It's easily a top 10 job.

 

[JW PRPcoach]

Pelini is psycho - no thanks
I agree with Tressell, Brohm, or the West Mich coach.
I know some are very successful - but I don't want to hire another coordinator.
Even if he was HC at a DII school - at least someone who has been a HC

 

[gamalielkid]

sub standard list. career NFL guy, failed former head coach who couldnt win at bigger more high profile programs, & 3 small school guys.

Butch Davis, Jim Tressell, Tommy Tubberville. veterans who have built & won at power 5 schools. lets copy the Jerry Claiborne/Rich Brooks model in the future since it somewhat worked for us in our past.

Well, Tuberville could keep most of these coaches and that would reduce the buyouts!:joy:

Go Big Blue!

 

[Father Torque_rivals16706]

The irony in all of this Brohm talk and how he wouldn't come to UK because he played at UofL is that Schnellenberger was an All-American at UK.

True, but UK wouldn't hire Schnellenberger so he ended up at UL. UL won't hesitate to call Brohm if Petrino bolts.

 

[JHB4UK]

Besides, didn't Jurich fire Brohm off the Kragthorpe staff? Would you go work for somebody who fired you previously?

Brohm's career arc is kind of facinating. was not a college coach until his little brother Brian became a hot recruitable prospect. then famously Barnhart when looking for Morriss replacement asked Brohm to keep his options of possibly joining the UK staff open. Of course the natural happened, UL hired him for his 1st coaching job then a year later his little brother joins the team.

After Petrino's messy exit was forced onto Kragthorpe's staff by Jurich. Then was promoted to offensive coordinator the last game of that 1st disasterous season in '07 to generate goodwill among an angry fanbase. Then after being OC the 2nd year Kragthorpe wanted to get rid of him but Jurich would not allow the bad PR of UL firing him, so they looked high & low for someone, anyone to hire him 'away'. A favor from Schnellenburger got Brohm onto his staff away from UL. Then 2 years under Petrino's brother at Illinois. Then a year under Petrino's former OC at UAB. Then at WKU under Petrino. Then promoted to the big chair at WKU.

point being? he's a hot name who got jobs & got promoted based a helluvalot on who he was & his last name & who he was being protected by than maybe his abilities warranted. forget the UL angle, just not sure that is someone who has had enough of a tough lifting in his career that he can put in the hard work necessary at an incredibly difficult job like UK.

 

[Father Torque_rivals16706]

I really don't understand why any rational person would want Lane Kiffin. He's been a trainwreck everywhere he's been, except Alabama so far.

Has everybody already forgotten this?
During the 2012 season, Kiffin became the first coach since 1964 to take the pre-season #1 ranked team to unranked by the end of the season. (USC)

 

[Mikey Likes It]

Heres a crazy idea. What about John Chavis

 

[Ctroberts1024]

I really don't understand why any rational person would want Lane Kiffin. He's been a trainwreck everywhere he's been, except Alabama so far.

Has everybody already forgotten this?
During the 2012 season, Kiffin became the first coach since 1964 to take the pre-season #1 ranked team to unranked by the end of the season. (USC)

Do people not realize what probation does to a program? He was coaching with around 60 players.

Kiffin is a top 5-10 offensive mind in football. Big time name. Id kill to have him

 

[KyGradStudent]

Brohm's career arc is kind of facinating. was not a college coach until his little brother Brian became a hot recruitable prospect. then famously Barnhart when looking for Morriss replacement asked Brohm to keep his options of possibly joining the UK staff open. Of course the natural happened, UL hired him for his 1st coaching job then a year later his little brother joins the team.

After Petrino's messy exit was forced onto Kragthorpe's staff by Jurich. Then was promoted to offensive coordinator the last game of that 1st disasterous season in '07 to generate goodwill among an angry fanbase. Then after being OC the 2nd year Kragthorpe wanted to get rid of him but Jurich would not allow the bad PR of UL firing him, so they looked high & low for someone, anyone to hire him 'away'. A favor from Schnellenburger got Brohm onto his staff away from UL. Then 2 years under Petrino's brother at Illinois. Then a year under Petrino's former OC at UAB. Then at WKU under Petrino. Then promoted to the big chair at WKU.

point being? he's a hot name who got jobs & got promoted based a helluvalot on who he was & his last name & who he was being protected by than maybe his abilities warranted. forget the UL angle, just not sure that is someone who has had enough of a tough lifting in his career that he can put in the hard work necessary at an incredibly difficult job like UK.

Jeff can flat out coach. His last name has nothing to do with his success at wku. If that was the case wku would be loaded with the best talent coming from the city of Louisville's Trinity high school.

 

[Jdhays21]

People need to just give up the Herman and Briles talk. Herman is out of our league and Briles is less than a year removed from trying to keep a sexual assault case in house.

 

[Big John Stud]

1. Rex Ryan
2. Lane Kiffin
3. Neal Brown
4. PJ Fleck (Western Michigan head coach)
5. Jeff Brohm

MJ just mentioned this on KSR. Said #1 and #2 would definitely make things fun, but he'd take any of these in a heart beat if Stoops doesn't work out. But he still hopes Stoops can make it work.

Matt Jones doesn't know what a nickel defense is.

 

[Mojocat_rivals48469]

Do people not realize what probation does to a program? He was coaching with around 60 players.

Kiffin is a top 5-10 offensive mind in football. Big time name. Id kill to have him

if they were preseason number 1 safe to assume any lingering effects of probation were over by then.....

 

[Big John Stud]

I don't understand the allure of Lane Kiffin.

I'll eat crow but I feel pretty confident in saying that Rex Ryan will never coach at the college level. If/when he gets fired from the Bills I could see him going into broadcasting like Gruden.

Well Lane Kiffin was terrible at Oakland before being fired mid-season, meh at Tennessee before craping all over them and leaving them high and dry, and terrible at USC before being fired mid-season. On top of being a terrible coach he's a ginormous douche who is disliked by everyome that has crossed his path. I see why Matt Jones with all his football knowledge would want him.

 

[Big John Stud]

People need to just give up the Herman and Briles talk. Herman is out of our league and Briles is less than a year removed from trying to keep a sexual assault case in house.

How did he try to keep it in house? Oh wait, he didn't and you can't say how he did.

 

[SouthernMiss3613]

How about Lincoln Riley? Greg Schiano is another option. Obviously, Jeff Brohm makes the most sense.

 

[Monroe Claxton]

Didn't Jones say that if Stoops can't get it done here, nobody can? Why would he put out Wendy's list of potential new coached if he doesn't think they could build a winning program?

 

[wildcatsrule006]

Well Lane Kiffin was terrible at Oakland before being fired mid-season, meh at Tennessee before craping all over them and leaving them high and dry, and terrible at USC before being fired mid-season. On top of being a terrible coach he's a ginormous douche who is disliked by everyome that has crossed his path. I see why Matt Jones with all his football knowledge would want him.

You really despise MJ, don't you?

 

[keefsopeng]

-rex ryan-the only reason it was a possibility before was his dad had a horse farm here. Buddy has now passed on.

-Lane Kiffin-he couldn't win with top 10 talent at Tennessee or USC how is he going to win here?Lane is a great coordinator. He's proved he no HC though. that would be a terrible choice

-Neal Brown- I think he is a very smart coach, I'd like to see him do something first. Go win 10 games at Troy like Brohm or PJ Fleck have done.

-PJ Fleck- Pretty sure Matt read my post on here talking about Fleck from a few days ago. Zero chance he knew who that was before. Anyhow, great choice

Jeff Bohm-Would be the best hire of that group and maybe out of anyone who is possible but i think it unlikely. I SAID I WANT A STREET FIGHT IN BETWEEN THE LINES!

If it goes past Fleck and Brohm then we need to do some more deeper diving before they just give it to Neal Brown.

 

[ThePhoenix_rivals211191]

Brohm would be a nice choice, although he doesn't strike me as having any interest in KY.

Schiano actually might be a nice fit. He built up a Rutgers program to respectability, which is pretty damn tough to do. Don't think he's great, but probably a decent fit for what needs to be done.

Guys like Briles or Tressel would obviously be awesome. Both can really coach. Of course both have their trouble. I'm fine with that. I'll risk trouble for a better team. But to me the biggest problem with getting either is that when they get past their sanctions and their troubles have blown over, some school with more allure will take them.

And I still like Butch Davis. Longtime Hurricanes fan for decades, as well as KY. The man can recruit better than anyone imo. Doesn't recruit just 5 stars like Saban because of Bama name, he's always been adept at pulling 2-3 stars that could play (like Ed Reed) and developing them. He stocked a roster at UNC with NFL talent. Built the single most talented roster ever in cfb at Miami coming off probation. He's been wanting to coach and practically begged for the Miami job. Obviously, he wouldn't have the same interest in the KY job, but I think he would take it. But also from following him in those Miami years, he earned the nickname Botch from the fanbase because of his brainfarts on the sideline, so he would carry some baggage of not being a good gameday coach. But he would recruit better than Stoops, and would have a physical, fast team that darn sure didn't play timid.

 

[Father Torque_rivals16706]

You really despise MJ, don't you?

Matt Jones knows as much about football as I do about brain surgery.

 

[Big John Stud]

You really despise MJ, don't you?

Why does that hurt you so much? I'm sure there are no members of the media that you dislike.

 

[thepip]

1. Rex Ryan
2. Lane Kiffin
3. Neal Brown
4. PJ Fleck (Western Michigan head coach)
5. Jeff Brohm

MJ just mentioned this on KSR. Said #1 and #2 would definitely make things fun, but he'd take any of these in a heart beat if Stoops doesn't work out. But he still hopes Stoops can make it work.

Sounds like that twink is just gathering information from this site.

 

[Tannerdad]

Don't really care. I hope Stoops stays as long as Barnhart stays. I don't want that man making another hire at UK....football or basketball.

 

[Father Torque_rivals16706]

When Stoops was hired I wanted Petrino, if Petrino was a no go I wanted Butch Davis. I'd still take Butch in a second. IMO he's the best coach that UK might have a chance to hire.