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Drcats2025

Heisman
Nov 13, 2012
7,928
15,699
63
JHannibalSmith said:
Bump for @quest4#9

And, btw @drcats2013 I’m sorry if it felt like I was singling out & slamming your pick. I didn’t mean it that way. I was just explaining my opinion & he happened to be the one who was drafted when the topic came up so I used him to make a point. Good thing about Bonds is he was so good before steroids that even if ppl discount his SF years he’s still one of the best LFers ever.
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Lord no, brother lol. We need to talk things out. This is all for fun and not to get mad over. My entire point is just you can’t penalize someone for something that does not change what they were. He was a stud and I drafted a stud. He is also a cheating prick if we’re being honest, but his skill level cannot be changed whether it was enhanced or not, and I drafted that skill. Hall of fame Determination is different than simply using his skill that created records that still stand today.

Sorry I’ve not been active for a while. Just got home from Wasiato golf course. So glad they’re back open lol
 
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BigBlueFanGA

Heisman
Jun 14, 2005
26,435
23,455
0
I'm really torn on this pick. One a brilliant old timer, the other a brilliant modern player. They are very different players but both were utterly dominate. I almost wish someone else had already picked one of them. Ugh, I know I'm gonna screw up this draft. Based on quotes from all time greats that I will list in the voting rounds, I pick:

Walter "Big Train" Johnson


@CB3UK you are OTC
 
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natron20

Senior
Oct 11, 2006
3,182
644
62
Interesting thread.....

One question, since i’m not good at analyzing stats, but why wouldn’t someone simply draft next available player with the highest all time WAR?
 
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GoBigBlue712

All-Conference
Nov 6, 2018
1,002
1,642
0
natron20 said:
Interesting thread.....

One question, since i’m not good at analyzing stats, but why wouldn’t someone simply draft next available player with the highest all time WAR?
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Because it’s not just about WAR, similar to how basketball is not just about PER. I take into account the player’s other major stats (HR, Hits, BA, OPS, etc), the player’s peak, and how they performed under the pressure of the postseason.
 
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quest4#9

Junior
Jun 2, 2013
653
325
0
Haha there are some others, but I think he deserves to be in discussion for the GOAT. Definitely my favorite player ever, and without injuries he’d probably be all time HR leader without the roids.
 
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KopiKat

All-Conference
Nov 2, 2006
14,018
4,757
0
quest4#9 said:
Haha there are some others, but I think he deserves to be in discussion for the GOAT. Definitely my favorite player ever, and without injuries he’d probably be all time HR leader without the roids.
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Love, Junior . . . Injuries kept him from Aaron like numbers. +700 homers / +3000 hits. And the re-learning that beautiful swing, coming back from injuries. If not for that, could have flirted with career +.300 avg.
 
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DraftCat

Heisman
Nov 5, 2011
12,664
13,561
113
KopiKat said:
Love, Junior . . . Injuries kept him from Aaron like numbers. +700 homers / +3000 hits. And the re-learning that beautiful swing, coming back from injuries. If not for that, could have flirted with career +.300 avg.
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Griffey is like the 2015 Wildcats for me... love the team / player however hate to talk about the what ifs

Definitely a sore spot
 
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jrpross_rivals

Heisman
Feb 21, 2008
17,538
36,004
113
KopiKat said:
Love, Junior . . . Injuries kept him from Aaron like numbers. +700 homers / +3000 hits. And the re-learning that beautiful swing, coming back from injuries. If not for that, could have flirted with career +.300 avg.
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His swing was as beautiful as a Stevie Ray Vaughan Guitar solo.
 
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KopiKat

All-Conference
Nov 2, 2006
14,018
4,757
0
UKNorse said:
Griffey is like the 2015 Wildcats for me... love the team / player however hate to talk about the what ifs

Definitely a sore spot
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With Jr., the glass is more than 1/2 full. The thing that irks me about junior's career #s is that people see it as a shortfall to Bonds'. But who is a HOF'r. And when you look at Bonds' numbers, don't you think he would have preferred to have swung at a few more pitches, tempted the pitcher to work him more? Instead of walking all of those ungodly times, being the home run king, falling 65 hits shy of 3000, 2 points below a career .300, and four (count 'em, 4), RBIs shy of 2000? He gave up a lot to get a lot, Bonds.
 
CB3UK

CB3UK

Hall of Famer
Apr 15, 2012
63,276
104,439
78
I got the tag notification that time. Wrapping up at work. Ill have my pick in here within the hr.
 
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JHannibalSmith

All-American
Sep 28, 2006
2,394
7,278
98
I was planning on a different strategy going in but there are a cpl guys I wasn’t expecting to be there & I can’t pass. I’ll take one of the greatest hitters & run producers to ever play & only a horrible, degenerative disease could keep him out of the lineup; Lou Gehrig.

@LukaszObrzut OTC
 
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BigBlueEric

All-Conference
Feb 12, 2006
1,245
1,211
98
Me too but when you have this vast of a pool to draw from, lots of different opinions are going to arise.
 
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KopiKat

All-Conference
Nov 2, 2006
14,018
4,757
0
drcats2013 said:
There’s a player left that I am SHOCKED has not been taken
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More than one for me. I think it depends on one's strategy. If picking "next best" available, fine. But will that get the votes needed? Are the all-time best players in the voter's conscious of having been a great world series performer? Some all-time greats never won a world series, or played in one, or few. So again, it's all about what your strategy is to solicit votes.
 
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JamesIII

All-Conference
Oct 21, 2003
3,344
3,440
62
BigBlueEric said:
Me too but when you have this vast of a pool to draw from, lots of different opinions are going to arise.
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He is one of the top 3 players to ever play the game and at an essential position.

"They created the All-Star game for Willie."
 
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BigBlueFanGA

Heisman
Jun 14, 2005
26,435
23,455
0
We haven't even made it thru the 1st round and already the feedback is interesting. Wait til the voting rounds.
 
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Lukasz0brzut

All-Conference
Oct 3, 2011
7,105
3,432
90
"A man has to have goals--for a day, for a lifetime--- and that was mine, to have people say,
There goes Ted Williams the greatest hitter of all time"

Give me the 19 year vet- (literally vet) whose career averages of .344/.482/.634 put him in the elite of the elite-- and is said by many to be the best pure hitter to ever play.

Give me Teddy "Ballgame" Williams
 
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jrpross_rivals

Heisman
Feb 21, 2008
17,538
36,004
113
LukaszObrzut said:
"A man has to have goals--for a day, for a lifetime--- and that was mine, to have people say,
There goes Ted Williams the greatest hitter of all time"

Give me the 19 year vet- (literally vet) whose career averages of .344/.482/.634 put him in the elite of the elite-- and is said by many to be the best pure hitter to ever play.

Give me Teddy "Ballgame" Williams
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That’s the guy. I thought it would go Ruth, Mays, Williams at the start.
 
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KopiKat

All-Conference
Nov 2, 2006
14,018
4,757
0
jrpross said:
That’s the guy. I thought it would go Ruth, Mays, Williams at the start.
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Ted would have been a reasonable top 3 pick maybe. But, in his only world series he hit a disappointing .200 with only a single RBI.
 
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Lukasz0brzut

All-Conference
Oct 3, 2011
7,105
3,432
90
KopiKat said:
Ted would have been a reasonable top 3 pick maybe. But, in his only world series he hit a disappointing .200 with only a single RBI.
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How unfortunate for him to get pegged in the elbow before the World Series and likely not be your normal self early on- and workouts prior.
 
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