Moncrief is being led by a %#*+ homer also
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I do know that Moncrief has been coming to Ole Miss games for a couple years now, almost all of them, and I know a coach of his has been taking him. There are MSU coaches on his staff though too.
But I know, the only way we get a player to ever sign with us is we either pay them or hide them from MSU. We have to force guys to go against their will, otherwise they'd all be going to MSU.
But I know, the only way we get a player to ever sign with us is we either pay them or hide them from MSU. We have to force guys to go against their will, otherwise they'd all be going to MSU.
y'all were trying to rid yourselves of your racist, plantation, slavery roots.RebelBruiser said:
We have Bell, Morris, Wood (out of state, but an Ole Miss/MSU decision), Golson, Mayers, and Moncrief of guys that I know were heavily pursued by both staffs. We also have Chief Brown, Prewitt, Miller, and Hamilton who you may or may not have wanted as much.
You have Brassell, Arrington, Maiden, Morrow, Whitehead, Johnson, and Redmond of guys I'm pretty sure were pursued by both staffs. You also have guys like Market and Price that we may now be pursuing along with a few others that may have received some interest from us.
Right now, your class is ranked 19 on scout with 20 commits. Ours is 20 on scout with 19 commits. On Rivals, we are 10th with our 19 commits, and you are 21st with your 20 commits.
You landed a couple good ones this week, and you may end up adding Singleton, but it looks so far like a pretty even split will happen between the guys we both want, as is the case most years. It's still a long way to February for all of those guys, and there will likely be a switch or two on those lists, but at that point it'll most likely be fairly even.
There will be years where one school does better in the head to head battles than the other, but generally, it's going to end up pretty close to a 50/50 split of the guys that we both want, especially in state. However, both of our fanbases still seem to have those few that believe that every player the other school signs was bought or is going there against their will. Remember the stories of Robert Johnson last year? Robert Elliott a few years ago? There are always legends of players being steered or bought against their will to the other school.
Not saying it doesn't happen, but to believe it goes one way is ignorant.
ETA: Looking back at that list for both schools, like I said a while back, we have a whole lot more head to head recruiting battles this year than normal. Usually it's around 12-15 players that we're battling head to head over. This year it looks like it's going to be closer to 25 or so that we're going to have gone head to head over. I said all along it's going to get ugly this year. It's mid-October, and it's obviously already started to get that way with the mud-slinging and rumor-mongering. I'm guessing it'll get even uglier come January, especially if and when a few guys switch commitments, as some are always apt to do. The boards will get nasty.
changing and I know you have to feel it too. If the Bears most recent trend of signing highly ranked guys that never play a down continues and our positive trend continues with guys we signactuallymaking the teamthen I see a shift going on here because this class is shaping up to be a very good one and mostly Mississippi based which I love.
High ranked classes are great but they have to show up and play and that has not been happening lately for the Bears.
High ranked classes are great but they have to show up and play and that has not been happening lately for the Bears.
Sure thing, and our fans back in July when we had the week where we got about 8 commitments got wooly thinking every major recruit we were after would follow the momentum and flip commitments or come down.
It's a roller coaster, but it almost always going to end with a pretty good split even if it seems like it won't.
If you're going by highly ranked players though, which I think is bogus on a player by player basis. For instance, Joel Kight was one of our lowest rated players in the 2009 class, and he was one of the best signees in that class. Also, Scout didn't even have DT Shackelford as a 4 or 5 star, and he's the best player on our defense outside of Powe. Wayne Dorsey, meanwhile is playing like a bust, though he still has time to pull a Rory Johnson/Patrick Trahan and make a first year Juco surge. If the rankings are your measuring stick though, and right now we don't have a whole lot more, here are the 4 and 5 star players from each of our last two classes that we both still have on campus according to what I can find on your roster. Let me know if any of these players have since left the team, because the roster I found was preseason:
Scout
Ole Miss (8) - Massie, Dorsey, Thompson, Sanders, Martin, Jones, Mackey, and Jackson
MSU (10) - Robinson, Wells, Eulls, Boyd, Russell, Cox, Bumphis, White, McPhee, and Langston
Rivals
Ole Miss (11) - Massie, Gaines, Scott, Shackelford, Dorsey, Jackson, Jones, Mackey, Martin, Sanders, Thompson
MSU (12) - Boyd, Bumphis, Cox, McPhee, Russell, Smith, Thames, Carmon, Carr, Eulls, Johnson, Robinson
We lost a few players, but we still signed and enrolled classes that weren't a whole lot different. The attrition we've had hasn't been nearly as bad as you might think. It's been a few high profile recruits, but we've still managed to bring in good numbers each year, and we haven't signed a ton of back up plans in the last few classes. I still feel like our recruiting is building toward 2012 and 2013, with a shot to peak a year early in 2011 if we come together well.
I was checking up an my high school's boys status's on FB today and seems that y'all are *!+%#! .... Market and Price being offered by us means y'all will not get any of the four . I decided not to be a racist and translate it for you .... Oh **** , I have to go , there is a fire that I need to put out.
Go BlackBrownBearsRebels
Go BlackBrownBearsRebels
How do you judge recruiting classes? I'm at a loss as to how to do it. The services have y'all variously way behind us, or one spot ahead of us. I think Brassell is a really good get for you guys, then you look at some of your other recruits and even people on here are scratching their heads. I suppose saying that you can remember whippingour *** in recruiting like y'all are this year is probably a little far fetched. Unless you're really young, which you may be.
Everybody knows about Moncrief and his coach. Thing is, we don't want either of the Smith Co. Dandy Dozens. One is overrated and softer than Charmin and the other is a goofy, lazy waste of talent. Prewitt (who is just outside of Smith Co.) isn't even on the radar. The only reason he has a UM offer is because of the Holder family. The Holders are providing jobs for players family members over there. Hell, the kid only has one other offer and it's USM.
We're about to take a UM commit, so get ready for it.
We're about to take a UM commit, so get ready for it.
I have seen the Prewitt kid play. Even though he plays against "inferior athletes", if you are 6'3" 205 lbs. and run a 4.46 forty it should be worth a look.
Boy... you have come a long way in a year. Just last year you didn't pay any attention to recruiting. Remember?RebelBruiser said:
I have seen him say over and over that he doesn't put any stock in recruiting rankings early in the process b/c it can change so much. Maybe I've mis-read....or hell, maybe y'all are just trying to run him off or aggravate him If so, carry on. None of my business.
They're just trying to aggravate. I believe most of them know that I don't buy the rankings, but I follow recruiting.
It's fun to follow because then you can get an idea if you're signing Plan B guys. I don't typically get excited about those guys, but I will get excited about low rated players that were high priorities for the staff. Joel Kight, again is an example. He wasn't highly rated anywhere, but our staff wanted him early and made him a high priority. Turns out, he's a really good football player.
There are examples both ways, but I feel like in general we've recruited really well the past two classes and are doing a fairly good job with this one as well, setting all rankings aside. I'd like to see us bring in another QB in this class, and I'd like to see a couple more DTs, but outside of that I think we've been addressing needs well by position, and we haven't had to settle for too many Plan B guys.
If you paid attention to our 2007 class for example, you could tell we missed out on a bunch of our top targets and had to take a decent amount of filler. We needed tailbacks and missed completely in that area that year. That has nothing to do with rankings, but it was easy to see by following the recruiting process. Lo and behold, that class is in its 4th season and our junior and senior classes are low in numbers and completely devoid of bodies at certain positions. It's good to follow, but it's better if you can follow it without being a rankings junkie.
Yes, I also realize I listed the 4 and 5 stars we signed the last two years. I did that to illustrate a point for coach66, since he was concerned with our class attrition in 2009. As I said though, many of the best players we signed in those classes were not on those lists, which is why I take the rankings with a grain of salt.
It's fun to follow because then you can get an idea if you're signing Plan B guys. I don't typically get excited about those guys, but I will get excited about low rated players that were high priorities for the staff. Joel Kight, again is an example. He wasn't highly rated anywhere, but our staff wanted him early and made him a high priority. Turns out, he's a really good football player.
There are examples both ways, but I feel like in general we've recruited really well the past two classes and are doing a fairly good job with this one as well, setting all rankings aside. I'd like to see us bring in another QB in this class, and I'd like to see a couple more DTs, but outside of that I think we've been addressing needs well by position, and we haven't had to settle for too many Plan B guys.
If you paid attention to our 2007 class for example, you could tell we missed out on a bunch of our top targets and had to take a decent amount of filler. We needed tailbacks and missed completely in that area that year. That has nothing to do with rankings, but it was easy to see by following the recruiting process. Lo and behold, that class is in its 4th season and our junior and senior classes are low in numbers and completely devoid of bodies at certain positions. It's good to follow, but it's better if you can follow it without being a rankings junkie.
Yes, I also realize I listed the 4 and 5 stars we signed the last two years. I did that to illustrate a point for coach66, since he was concerned with our class attrition in 2009. As I said though, many of the best players we signed in those classes were not on those lists, which is why I take the rankings with a grain of salt.