Monday question- who is your MLB starting 9 since 1970?
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The rest looks pretty decent. Chipper could probably give Boggs a run for his money, and Piazza in his prime would challenge Bench as a hitter. But a solid list.
C- Joe Mauer
1B- Don Mattingly(Just because he is the reason I am a Yankees fan)
2B- Ryne Sandberg
3B- Wade Boggs
SS- Derek Jeter
LF- Rickey Henderson
CF- Ken Griffey Jr.
RF- Tony Gwynn
1B- Don Mattingly(Just because he is the reason I am a Yankees fan)
2B- Ryne Sandberg
3B- Wade Boggs
SS- Derek Jeter
LF- Rickey Henderson
CF- Ken Griffey Jr.
RF- Tony Gwynn
C- Johnny Bench
1B- Albert Pujols
2B- Roberto Alomar
3B- Mike Schmidt
SS- Robin Yount
LF- Barry Bonds
CF-Kirby Puckett
RF-Dave Winfield
1B- Albert Pujols
2B- Roberto Alomar
3B- Mike Schmidt
SS- Robin Yount
LF- Barry Bonds
CF-Kirby Puckett
RF-Dave Winfield
1B - Albert Pujols
2B - Ryan Sandberg
3B -Alex Rodriguez
SS -Cal Ripken Jr
C - Johnny Bench
RF - Roberto Clemente
CF - Ken Griffey Jr
LF - Barry Bonds
DH - Mark McGuire
P - Nolan Ryan
2B - Ryan Sandberg
3B -Alex Rodriguez
SS -Cal Ripken Jr
C - Johnny Bench
RF - Roberto Clemente
CF - Ken Griffey Jr
LF - Barry Bonds
DH - Mark McGuire
P - Nolan Ryan
C-Joe Mauer
1B-Albert Pujols
2B-Chase Utley
3B-Alex Rodouche
SS-Cal Ripken Jr.
OF-Barry Bonds (Pre Roid or Roid)
OF-Ken Griffey Jr.
OF-Rickey Henderson
DH-Mark "The Juice Monkey" Mcgwire
1B-Albert Pujols
2B-Chase Utley
3B-Alex Rodouche
SS-Cal Ripken Jr.
OF-Barry Bonds (Pre Roid or Roid)
OF-Ken Griffey Jr.
OF-Rickey Henderson
DH-Mark "The Juice Monkey" Mcgwire
C- Johnny Bench
1B- Albert Pujols
2B- Joe Morgan
SS- Barry Larkin
3B- Mike Schmidt
LF- Barry Bonds
CF- Dale Murphy (my hero as a kid)
RF- Tony Gwynn
P - Greg Maddux (homer pick #2)
1B- Albert Pujols
2B- Joe Morgan
SS- Barry Larkin
3B- Mike Schmidt
LF- Barry Bonds
CF- Dale Murphy (my hero as a kid)
RF- Tony Gwynn
P - Greg Maddux (homer pick #2)
1B - Albert Pujols
SS - Cal Ripken Jr.
3B - George Brett
I hate picking anyone other than the Wizard, but I think Ripken gets the nod. I think I'd take Schmidt over Boggs at 3B also. I think Pujols has similar offensive numbers (much higheraverage) and is MUCH better in the field.
SS - Cal Ripken Jr.
3B - George Brett
I hate picking anyone other than the Wizard, but I think Ripken gets the nod. I think I'd take Schmidt over Boggs at 3B also. I think Pujols has similar offensive numbers (much higheraverage) and is MUCH better in the field.
He's made a ton of great diving catches, but anyone who knows anything will tell you he was diving for balls that elite centerfielders caught in stride.
He couldn't hold a pre-fat Andruw Jones' cheeseburger.
He couldn't hold a pre-fat Andruw Jones' cheeseburger.
Not even remotely true, great player no doubt about it, but not the best defensive center fielder of all time (if he was he would get in the hall, and jim edmonds aint getting in the hall)
C- Ivan Rodriguez
1B - Albert Pujols
2B - Joe Morgan
3B - Mike Schmidt
SS - Cal Ripken Jr.
LF - Rickey Henderson
CF - Ken Griffey Jr.
RF - Frank Robinson
SP - Randy Johnson
Barry Bonds and Alex Rodriguezexcluded because of steroids.
My lineup would be:
Rickey Henderson
Joe Morgan
Albert Pujols
Frank Robinson
Mike Schmidt
Ken Griffey Jr.
Cal Ripken Jr.
Ivan Rodriguez
Randy Johnson
Check here for a good site on comparing all-time greats
1B - Albert Pujols
2B - Joe Morgan
3B - Mike Schmidt
SS - Cal Ripken Jr.
LF - Rickey Henderson
CF - Ken Griffey Jr.
RF - Frank Robinson
SP - Randy Johnson
Barry Bonds and Alex Rodriguezexcluded because of steroids.
My lineup would be:
Rickey Henderson
Joe Morgan
Albert Pujols
Frank Robinson
Mike Schmidt
Ken Griffey Jr.
Cal Ripken Jr.
Ivan Rodriguez
Randy Johnson
Check here for a good site on comparing all-time greats
for best defensive centerfield of all-time.
He has two of the top 10 plays EVER by a centerfield (over-the-should diving catch in Anaheim and robbing of the homerun in Cincy).
He may not be the bona fide number 1, but he's definitely worth arguing for.
He has two of the top 10 plays EVER by a centerfield (over-the-should diving catch in Anaheim and robbing of the homerun in Cincy).
He may not be the bona fide number 1, but he's definitely worth arguing for.
C - Ivan Rodriguez
1B - Albert Pujols
2B - Joe Morgan
SS - Cal Ripken
3B - Mike Schmidt
LF - Barry Bonds
CF - Ken Griffey Jr
RF - Pete Rose
P - Nolan Ryan
1B - Albert Pujols
2B - Joe Morgan
SS - Cal Ripken
3B - Mike Schmidt
LF - Barry Bonds
CF - Ken Griffey Jr
RF - Pete Rose
P - Nolan Ryan
I think its safe to say that both are right up there at the top and someone saying that Jones is vastly superior to Edmonds or Edmonds being superior to Jones is just being a little ridiculous.
C - Joe Mauer (great guy, great player)
1B - Will Clark (I'm an MSU homer)
2B - Ryne Sandberg
SS - Ozzie Smith (made defense cool)
3B - Mike Schmidt
OF - Dale Murphy (my childhood baseball hero)
OF - Tony Gwynn
OF - Ichiro Suzuki
SP - Nolan Ryan
I stayed away from roids (McGwire, Bonds, A-Rod, Clemens, etc.).This is more ofa list of my favorite good players rather than the best overall lineup.
1B - Will Clark (I'm an MSU homer)
2B - Ryne Sandberg
SS - Ozzie Smith (made defense cool)
3B - Mike Schmidt
OF - Dale Murphy (my childhood baseball hero)
OF - Tony Gwynn
OF - Ichiro Suzuki
SP - Nolan Ryan
I stayed away from roids (McGwire, Bonds, A-Rod, Clemens, etc.).This is more ofa list of my favorite good players rather than the best overall lineup.
C - Ivan Rodriguez
1st - Pujols (McGwire gets some consideration)
2nd - Roberto Alomar (followed closely by Sandberg and Jeff Kent)
SS - Barry Larkin (this was tough - Jeter and Ripken both deserve a mention)
3rd - George Brett (over Wade Boggs)
OF - Ricky Henderson
OF - Kirby Puckett
OF - Tony Gwynn
(Bonds, Manny, Vlad, Griffey, Larry Walker, Andre Dawson, Edmonds, Willie Stargel would all be good picks in the OF)
P - Greg Maddux (tough call over Randy, Pedro, Nolan, and Clemens)
DH - Bonds
1st - Pujols (McGwire gets some consideration)
2nd - Roberto Alomar (followed closely by Sandberg and Jeff Kent)
SS - Barry Larkin (this was tough - Jeter and Ripken both deserve a mention)
3rd - George Brett (over Wade Boggs)
OF - Ricky Henderson
OF - Kirby Puckett
OF - Tony Gwynn
(Bonds, Manny, Vlad, Griffey, Larry Walker, Andre Dawson, Edmonds, Willie Stargel would all be good picks in the OF)
P - Greg Maddux (tough call over Randy, Pedro, Nolan, and Clemens)
DH - Bonds
vastly superior, no, but Andruw was clearly better than Edmonds. He had better range, particularly to shallow center, and the better arm by far.
You look at how he was when he played for Texas. He was huge. Some of that was him being a little chubby but he had some serious muscle mass too.
C- Johnny Bench- pretty much the best all around catcher of all-time.
1B- Albert Pujols- Not a homer pick by the way, just the truth.
2B- Ryne Sandberg- Could run and play solid defense to. Obviously could hit and hit for power.
3B- Mike Schimidt- Best third baseman of all time. Practically refined the barehand throw to first.
SS- Derek Jeter- Just does everything right. Very underrated until you watch him in person.
RF- Tony Gwynn- The man was a machine. It's a shame it's not Daryl Strawberry.
CF- Ken Griffey, Jr- May or may not have been as good as Edmonds defensively, but there's no question that he's the better all around player.
LF- Barry Bonds- Love him or hate him, his numbers speak for themsleves.
DH- Manny Ramirez- Check his numbers out.
P- Roger Clemens
Closer- Mariano Rivera
1B- Albert Pujols- Not a homer pick by the way, just the truth.
2B- Ryne Sandberg- Could run and play solid defense to. Obviously could hit and hit for power.
3B- Mike Schimidt- Best third baseman of all time. Practically refined the barehand throw to first.
SS- Derek Jeter- Just does everything right. Very underrated until you watch him in person.
RF- Tony Gwynn- The man was a machine. It's a shame it's not Daryl Strawberry.
CF- Ken Griffey, Jr- May or may not have been as good as Edmonds defensively, but there's no question that he's the better all around player.
LF- Barry Bonds- Love him or hate him, his numbers speak for themsleves.
DH- Manny Ramirez- Check his numbers out.
P- Roger Clemens
Closer- Mariano Rivera
I hate to pull the "I'm a coach" card, but.... I'm not only a baseball coach, but I have coached outfield for over a decade at every level below college ball. I think that qualifies me as someone who "knows anything," and I say he is arguably the greatest of all time. There are others (including Jones) who may be better, but to say Edmonds isn't in the conversation is just stupid. The clip C34 posted is the hardest play to make in baseball, and possibly in all of sports.
C - Johnny Bench
1B - Albert Pujols
2B - Ryne Sandberg
3B - Mike Schmidt
SS - Derek Jeter
LF - Rickey Henderson
CF - Kirby Puckett
RF - Ichiro Suzuki
P - Steve Carlton</p>
1B - Albert Pujols
2B - Ryne Sandberg
3B - Mike Schmidt
SS - Derek Jeter
LF - Rickey Henderson
CF - Kirby Puckett
RF - Ichiro Suzuki
P - Steve Carlton</p>
but as far as I know, his was all rumors... where as A-Rods was an admission and Bonds was a no-brainer.<div>
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Roberto Alomar .300 AVG, 210 HRs, 1134 RBI, 1508 runs, 2724 hits, 474 stolen bases, 10 gold gloves
Ryne Sandberg 285 AVG, 282 HRs, 1061 RBI, 1318 runs, 2386 hits and 344 stolen bases, 9 gold gloves
For those scoring at home....Alomar has more RBIs, runs, hits, stolen bases, hit for a higher average, and had more gold gloves, Ryno hit more home runs.
Who's the homer now?
Ryne Sandberg 285 AVG, 282 HRs, 1061 RBI, 1318 runs, 2386 hits and 344 stolen bases, 9 gold gloves
For those scoring at home....Alomar has more RBIs, runs, hits, stolen bases, hit for a higher average, and had more gold gloves, Ryno hit more home runs.
Who's the homer now?
For the record, as a 8 or 9 year old, I had a blue Chicago Cubs fitted hat with "SANDBERG" painted on the back. I used to idolize that guy because we had the same first name.<div>
</div><div>Here's a couple reasons why Cards fans did not pick Ryno:</div><div>1) As Kurt Rambis will tell you, Cards fans are the smartest baseball fans in the world. We know more than you, so just get over it.**</div><div>
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</div><div>2) Ryne Sandberg - 2164 Games, 8385 AB, 2386 Hits, 1318 Runs, 282 HR, 1061 RBI, 344 SB, .285 AVG, .453 SLG, 9 Gold Gloves</div><div>
</div><div>Roberto Alomar - 2379 Games, 9073 AB, 2724 Hits, 1508 Runs, 210 HR, 1134 RBI, 474 SB, .300 AVG, 443 SLG, 10 Gold Gloves</div><div>
</div><div>Joe Morgan - 2649 Games, 9277 AB, 2517 Hits, 1650 Runs, 268 HR, 1133 RBI, 689 SB, .271 AVG, .427 SLG, 5 Gold Gloves</div><div>
</div><div>Craig Biggio - 2850 Games, 10876 AB, 3060 Hits, 1844 Runs, 291 HR, 1175 RBI, 414 SB, .281 AVG, .433 SLG, 4 Gold Gloves</div><div>
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</div><div>First, Ryne Sandberg didn't have the longevity that Alomar, Morgan, and Biggio had. Second, Alomar, Biggio, and Morgan had basically the same power that Ryne had, yet these guys were "lead-off" hitters, where Sandberg was a 2, 3, or 5 guy. Sandberg trailed all of them in steals, runs, and rbi's as well. The only thing Sandberg definitively did better was hit for extra bases (as evidenced by him leading the SLG category). </div><div>
</div><div>I'd honestly think that I would take Morgan, Alomar, Biggio, and Sandberg in that order, for best 2B since 1970.</div><div>
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</div><div>Here's a couple reasons why Cards fans did not pick Ryno:</div><div>1) As Kurt Rambis will tell you, Cards fans are the smartest baseball fans in the world. We know more than you, so just get over it.**</div><div>
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</div><div>2) Ryne Sandberg - 2164 Games, 8385 AB, 2386 Hits, 1318 Runs, 282 HR, 1061 RBI, 344 SB, .285 AVG, .453 SLG, 9 Gold Gloves</div><div>
</div><div>Roberto Alomar - 2379 Games, 9073 AB, 2724 Hits, 1508 Runs, 210 HR, 1134 RBI, 474 SB, .300 AVG, 443 SLG, 10 Gold Gloves</div><div>
</div><div>Joe Morgan - 2649 Games, 9277 AB, 2517 Hits, 1650 Runs, 268 HR, 1133 RBI, 689 SB, .271 AVG, .427 SLG, 5 Gold Gloves</div><div>
</div><div>Craig Biggio - 2850 Games, 10876 AB, 3060 Hits, 1844 Runs, 291 HR, 1175 RBI, 414 SB, .281 AVG, .433 SLG, 4 Gold Gloves</div><div>
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</div><div>First, Ryne Sandberg didn't have the longevity that Alomar, Morgan, and Biggio had. Second, Alomar, Biggio, and Morgan had basically the same power that Ryne had, yet these guys were "lead-off" hitters, where Sandberg was a 2, 3, or 5 guy. Sandberg trailed all of them in steals, runs, and rbi's as well. The only thing Sandberg definitively did better was hit for extra bases (as evidenced by him leading the SLG category). </div><div>
</div><div>I'd honestly think that I would take Morgan, Alomar, Biggio, and Sandberg in that order, for best 2B since 1970.</div><div>
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P-Pedro Martinez (Turn of the century Red Sox version)
C-Ivan Rodriguez
1B-Albert Pujols
2B-Joe Morgan
3B-Mike Schmidt
SS-Cal Ripken Jr
LF-Barry Bonds (even though I can't stand the guy, I'll put the Pirates version on here)
CF-Ken Griffey Jr
RF-Ichiro Suzuki
Batting Order:
1-Ichiro Suzuki
2-Joe Morgan
3-Albert Pujols
4-Ken Griffey Jr
5-Mike Schmidt
6-Barry Bonds
7-Cal Ripken Jr
8-Ivan Rodriguez
9-Pedro Martinez</p>
C-Ivan Rodriguez
1B-Albert Pujols
2B-Joe Morgan
3B-Mike Schmidt
SS-Cal Ripken Jr
LF-Barry Bonds (even though I can't stand the guy, I'll put the Pirates version on here)
CF-Ken Griffey Jr
RF-Ichiro Suzuki
Batting Order:
1-Ichiro Suzuki
2-Joe Morgan
3-Albert Pujols
4-Ken Griffey Jr
5-Mike Schmidt
6-Barry Bonds
7-Cal Ripken Jr
8-Ivan Rodriguez
9-Pedro Martinez</p>
