More confidence: Shoop vs Grantham

gasdawg

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Apr 11, 2011
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I got to thinking about this on my drive to work this morning. Most state fans are predicting state to win 9 - 11 games this season. Would you have more confidence in hitting the 10 win mark if we still had Grantham instead of Shoop?
 

dawgphd

Sophomore
May 16, 2008
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Obviously a gut feeling only but my bet is Moor/Shoop > "Foot out the door" Mullen/Grantham.

Grantham had extraordinary talent last year and did a really good job for the most part. Grantham has also been run off a couple of places.

Shoot, until UT dumpster fire, was perceptually Aranda hot. No clue how it turns out but Shoop isn't a step back.
 

o_dawgnabit

All-American
Oct 13, 2016
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You can’t really guess it. This time last year we were asking the same things about Grantham and whether he could get back to his top defenses at UGA. And obviously he did. But I’m trying to look past the whole UT thing for Shoop. I really think that whole program and culture was just a failure with butch and he just pulled Shoop with him
 

Trojanbulldog19

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Aug 25, 2014
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It’s really hard to tell.We will have a lot of talent back. I’ve said multiple times I hope shop doesn’t waste it. Grantham wasn’t perfect by any mean(see uga, auburn, and um) last year, but I still think he was the best DC Mullen had here. That’s not saying a whole lot though. I would say Grantham Collins and Diaz 1.0 were his top three. Shoop is probably better than anyone we have had other than Grantham and maybe Collins. I’m hoping his time at Tennessee doesn’t carry over and he didn’t bring any of that with him. He has good talent. I hope his coaching strategy is similar to Grantham. We will see. To be honest and answer your question I would be slightly more confident but that’s just because I know what the defense looked like under Grantham. I’m just not sure what it’s going to look like under Shoop. Talent wise it should be one of the best in the SEC.Hope we are
 

ezsoil

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May 26, 2013
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Well Grantham was certainly what was needed after the disaster of Sirmon. I can also see why he was run off from several places,,..we found out why the term "third and Grantham" was coined. with that, perhaps Shoop will be a nice balance attacking but don't be so predictable.... time will tell but all I can say is ....Shoop don't screw this up
 

Go Budaw

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Aug 22, 2012
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We gave up 30+ points in half our SEC games last year, and to every team that had a pulse on offense. Grantham got wayyyy too much love for what our defense was last year. Yeah, it was more exciting to watch at times, but the results weren’t really any better than some of our better years under Diaz, Wilson, and Collins. I think the fact that he took over for arguably the worst DC in college football history also inflated a lot of our fans opinion of his job performance. Long story short, I don’t think Shoop has a difficult task to at least match what Grantham did last year. We are actually gonna have to be a lot better there for our record to see any improvement from 8-4.
 

Go Budaw

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Aug 22, 2012
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You can’t really guess it. This time last year we were asking the same things about Grantham and whether he could get back to his top defenses at UGA. And obviously he did. But I’m trying to look past the whole UT thing for Shoop. I really think that whole program and culture was just a failure with butch and he just pulled Shoop with him

No, he didn’t. Not even close.
 

TrueMaroonGrind

All-Conference
Jan 6, 2017
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Grantham was the coach during the bearshark game.

If you are insinuating that the defense wasn't good in the egg bowl, that would be an incorrect assessment. They were the reason it was even remotely close towards the end.

Grantham messed up against Auburn and Georgia. Every other game the defense was a positive.
 

TrapGame.sixpack

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Aug 16, 2018
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Gus faced Grantham in 2013 with Georgia and shredded his defense. He used the same game plan in 2017. We didn't have the deep threat WRs to stretch Auburn's defense. Grantham's weakness is the secondary. Shoop's specialty is the secondary.
 

philduckworth

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Feb 20, 2015
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I got to thinking about this on my drive to work this morning. Most state fans are predicting state to win 9 - 11 games this season. Would you have more confidence in hitting the 10 win mark if we still had Grantham instead of Shoop?

Yes, 100%.
 
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