More from the Newton's talk yesterday

TX Mud Dawg

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****For Everyone that is tried of hearing about Cam, I'm sorry, but for those that want to know here you go. This is what he said about when they asked if MSU was the leader.

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There's been much speculation that Mississippi State - where he visited for the Egg Bowl - is the clear-cut leader. A day can't pass without a post on the Bulldog message boards claiming that Newton has committed, and even the announcer broadcasting Sunday's game said Newton was MSU bound. But Newton said that talk is wrong at this point.

"I won't say that's true," Newton said when asked if MSU was the leader. "I could say I had an excellent time in Starkville, Miss. But have they stood out? They stood out at one point, but as of right now everybody is on the same playing level now.

"I say it's Oklahoma, Mississippi State, North Carolina, Auburn and Kansas State. I can't even imagine how tough this is. I can't make any mistakes with this."

<span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic; text-decoration: underline;">Mississippi State</span> <span style="text-decoration: underline; font-weight: bold;">and Kansas State</span> are two schools that have been a constant on his list, and <span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic; text-decoration: underline;">both coaches from the Bulldogs and Wildcats were on hand at Sunday's game to make their presence known</span>. Both schools visited with Newton and his family following the game. But where did Oklahoma, Auburn and North Carolina come from? None of those schools have been on his list in previous updates.

"Honestly, I don't even know where they came from," Newton said. "Coach (Josh) Heupel has been in contact with me for the last couple of months and whatnot. Now they've set up a visit, so I'm going to go down there and see what happens.

"The same can be said about Auburn and North Carolina. They've also made a push at me the past few months and weeks. I'd like to investigate and see more what they have to offer as far as playing time, academics and the whole setting."

And when that investigation concludes, Newton will finally have an answer to that lingering question about where he's going to end up at.

"I have to do what's best for me," Newton said. "I'm not going to a situation where they're already stacked at the quarterback position. I want to go to a school where I have the capability of playing right away and where I'm going to be the man. I have to play right now. There's no ifs ands or buts about it."

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Makes me feel a little better that he won't say if MSU is his leader and that we have been recruiting him hard the whole time. Plus the OU doesn't seem like they have been on him that hard as well and it looks like the coaches were in fact at the game.
 

TX Mud Dawg

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****For Everyone that is tried of hearing about Cam, I'm sorry, but for those that want to know here you go. This is what he said about when they asked if MSU was the leader.

Part of the story

There's been much speculation that Mississippi State - where he visited for the Egg Bowl - is the clear-cut leader. A day can't pass without a post on the Bulldog message boards claiming that Newton has committed, and even the announcer broadcasting Sunday's game said Newton was MSU bound. But Newton said that talk is wrong at this point.

"I won't say that's true," Newton said when asked if MSU was the leader. "I could say I had an excellent time in Starkville, Miss. But have they stood out? They stood out at one point, but as of right now everybody is on the same playing level now.

"I say it's Oklahoma, Mississippi State, North Carolina, Auburn and Kansas State. I can't even imagine how tough this is. I can't make any mistakes with this."

<span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic; text-decoration: underline;">Mississippi State</span> <span style="text-decoration: underline; font-weight: bold;">and Kansas State</span> are two schools that have been a constant on his list, and <span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic; text-decoration: underline;">both coaches from the Bulldogs and Wildcats were on hand at Sunday's game to make their presence known</span>. Both schools visited with Newton and his family following the game. But where did Oklahoma, Auburn and North Carolina come from? None of those schools have been on his list in previous updates.

"Honestly, I don't even know where they came from," Newton said. "Coach (Josh) Heupel has been in contact with me for the last couple of months and whatnot. Now they've set up a visit, so I'm going to go down there and see what happens.

"The same can be said about Auburn and North Carolina. They've also made a push at me the past few months and weeks. I'd like to investigate and see more what they have to offer as far as playing time, academics and the whole setting."

And when that investigation concludes, Newton will finally have an answer to that lingering question about where he's going to end up at.

"I have to do what's best for me," Newton said. "I'm not going to a situation where they're already stacked at the quarterback position. I want to go to a school where I have the capability of playing right away and where I'm going to be the man. I have to play right now. There's no ifs ands or buts about it."

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Makes me feel a little better that he won't say if MSU is his leader and that we have been recruiting him hard the whole time. Plus the OU doesn't seem like they have been on him that hard as well and it looks like the coaches were in fact at the game.
 

shutterdawg

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I was told by a friend the other day, and this guy is connected with people at Blinn and MSU who would know, that this hkid-or at the very least his father-has his hand out. Don't know why but I got a bad feeling-not about him going elsewhere but about the baggage that he might bring. I hope this isn't the case because to say he would be a huge asset is an understatement. BUT if it is the case, we are better off without him and I really hope our coaches wouldn't take us back down that path.
 

Thick

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Let it go, and quit worrying about it. If we do get him then it will be a great Christmas, if not we are still going to be better in that position next year regardless.
 

GloryDawg

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So I say screw him! Let's move on to next guy. If we get him great, if not oh well.
 

Todd4State

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Everyone else does, we have an AD with balls that is a ninja, and quite frankly we need him.
 

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TX Mud Dawg said:
"I have to do what's best for me," Newton said. "I'm not going to a situation where they're already stacked at the quarterback position. I want to go to a school where I have the capability of playing right away and where I'm going to be the man. <span style="font-weight: bold;">I have to play right now. There's no ifs ands or buts about it."</span>

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Makes me feel a little better that he won't say if MSU is his leader and that we have been recruiting him hard the whole time. Plus the OU doesn't seem like they have been on him that hard as well and it looks like the coaches were in fact at the game.
Of course he wants his PT. He should. But the more he emphasizes this the more I shudder to think what he'd be like to the team if he didn't live up and gets beat by Russell on the depth chart.

Also agree with the hand out. I've been saying all along he and his parents talk more like sports agents than a recruiting prospect.
 

sleepy dawg

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I would prefer not even hearing that. I seriously doubt Mullen would go down that path. If he has his hand out, then we won't get him. No need to even bring that up. I doubt that is the case though. I have heard this guy talk in the past, and he seems to be a pretty straight up guy... Not at all like a Renardo Sidney.
 

graddawg

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but why do our fans get so defensive and declare that we should "move on" as soon as recruit acts like they might be looking elsewhere? Would you rather get Ty Evans, Trey Rutland or Josh Hollingsworth over UAB, Troy and Samford?

I seem to remember posters saying we should forget Pernell last year after he failed to sign the first two weeks of the early signing period. People said we should pull our offer and let UGA or UF have him. We all saw how that turned out. If you want to play with the big boys this is how it usually goes.
 

Todd4State

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and they tend to be prima donna's. So, I'm not worried about that.

I don't think Dan Mullen would recruit a guy that he would think would cause problems.
 

FlabLoser

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and I know the speed limit isn't what's posted on the sign. Every coach not named Croom knows that too.
 

jcdawgman18

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And I'm not talking dollars here. I'm talking NCAA. They have no problem at all sticking it to us. They've done it before, given the chance they'll do it again.

The most miserable years I had as a State fan were when were under investigation and then following the announcement of the sanctions. Because when you're on probation you have absolutley nothing to be proud of. You're not any good and everyone gets to make fun of your getting caught.

Personally, I never want to go on probation ever again. Not worth it. No one, and I mean no one, is worth that.

Plus, and be honest here, do you really trust Cam Newton, a guy who decided the best course of action when caught with a stolen laptop was to throw it out his window, to keep quiet and not get us caught?

If he wants money, to me it's a no go. If he doesn't, bring him on. I'll take a 6'6" quarterback with wheels every day of the week and twice on Saturdays.
 

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I would love to get him. He will be around two years and when he is gone Russell will be ready for the next two but I am one of those who will not cry over spilled milk. When I say move on I say we as fans not the coaches. They should go hard at him.
 

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Big D said:
I would love to get him. He will be around two years and when he is gone Russell will be ready for the next two but I am one of those who will not cry over spilled milk. When I say move on I say we as fans not the coaches. They should go hard at him.
Gotcha.
 

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Seriously, do you realize how juvenile it sounds to say "I got a feeling he is holding out for money"???????? If we get him then I suppose your "feeling" will be that we paid him some major dollars!! It can't/won't be because of Mullen and the opportunity to play right away here.
 

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I know this: BDJ has been saying since this summer that Cam Newton is number one on our recruiting board for the year. Not number one QB, but number one. So if this is going to be a fight to the end, Mullen will be right in the middle of it. And I like the fact that Mullen knows him and has a system made for him. We'll see.
 

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sleepy dawg said:
I would prefer not even hearing that. I seriously doubt Mullen would go down that path. If he has his hand out, then we won't get him. No need to even bring that up. I doubt that is the case though. I have heard this guy talk in the past, and he seems to be a pretty straight up guy... Not at all like a Renardo Sidney.
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give the guy a break. I mean who on here wouldnt want to take free visits to Oklahoma, North Carolina and Auburn (KState's in the running bc apparently half his juco team is going there). I mean he's got every right to enjoy the system of college recruiting. Who in their right mind wouldnt want to go to Oklahoma/UNC and let Bob Stoops/Butch Davis praise you for being the next Donavan McNabb,etc. For once I feel we have an advantage over the others involved in that we hosted him for our biggest win of the season and he got to see first hand how much he help our program and at the same time learn under a former mentor. The other schools do worry me but a blind man could of seen this coming--he IS one of the top QBs in the country. We should just let it run its course and no blame the kid for being smart and analyzing all his possible opportunities. I am just thankful he is considering MSU bc if Crooms were still here we wouldnt even know who this guy was. Thank God for Dan Mullen!
 

Todd4State

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The turn everyone in era is over.

Any kind of wrongdoing has to be reported to Slive and the SEC first. And then it goes from there. The reason was because everyone in the SEC, and when I say everyone I mean Tennessee, and with us Ole Miss- and it was ruining the SEC.

How many SEC teams are on probation now? It's not because people have decided to start playing by the rules either.

On top of that, we had an AD with no balls who wouldn't stand up to Ole Miss. I'm 100% sure that Byrne would if he had to.

So, the way I see it- either start playing the game or join C-USA.
 
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...if you really believe we will drop Cam because he has his hands out or that he is the only one with his hands out!

Some of you need to wake up and realize what really goes on in the recruiting world and it has little to do with facilities or anything else. The stark reality is that this situation seems to be turning into a bidding war and honestly if it does, then we can not play with UNC, OU or Auburn... Its all a game that is dirty and what is nice; is that we are actually back in it... finally!

Believe what you will and keep reading Paul and Rosebowl... but the what you believe is much different than reality!!
 

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****....if u want a T.Martin , Albert Means, or a Perriloux ...at least be prepared to lose a ride.