I don’t disagree. Would not like the hire that much. I think much of the recent success is because of Pavia and Jerry Kill.
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The problem is if Kraft hires a guy that the boosters are not all in on. That could create issues. I guess if he starts winning they jump on board but he won't have much margin forcerror.
Kraft won't hire a guy that the boosters are not all in on.
Krafty is taking a few bigger swings first. Deboer, Freeman, possibly a mystery candidate as well.
The result of Saturday’s game should be totally irrelevant to the coaching decision. Anyone who is a fan of Terry should be hoping he isn’t named the HC because he would be totally set up to fail.
Really? How do you think it would go over if Terry loses to Rutgers and Kraft turns around and announces him as the head coach the next day? Meltdown
The outcome of Saturday doesn't impact how he's seen as the next coach IMO
If Kraft or someone is waiting for that outcome I'm terrified.
Not at all--some are going to meltdown regardless if he's announced. I'm considering it a massive failure but will hope for the best
But those that want him don't want him because he beat Nebraska and Michigan State--they want him because he's vocal about Joe and the past.
They can’t stop the run. We may have two go over 150. Singleton gets to record. We win.
The problem is if Kraft hires a guy that the boosters are not all in on. That could create issues. I guess if he starts winning they jump on board but he won't have much margin for error.
This isn't directed at you but I don't understand this argument
He's either a candidate or he is. Beating or losing to Auburn doesn't change anything.
Does that include the students — born in 2004-2008 — who started the first “Terry! Terry!” chants in the stadium the other night? Being vocal about Joe is what they care about?
Some of them--yes. Are you pretending many of them don't have parents that sold them on the legend that is Paterno?
Most were probably just hammered and have no idea what they were saying or doing
Fans also get caught up in the moment--hopefully reality has set in since the excitement of actually beating a team we were supposed to.
If Smith wanted to be a headcoach he should have moved on and tried. I dont think hes on anyone's short list.
And if Bama loses to Auburn, how different is he from Franklin? I dont get why hes even in the running. Seems kind of bland to me.If DeBoer loses Saturday to Auburn, most likely knocking Bama out of the CFP, the Bama fans will run him out of town on a flaming rail. The PTSD will encourage him to quit coaching.
I thought I read elsewhere that Chesney knocked his interview out of the park. Maybe it's like with Meyer, some kind of cover job. Chesney to UCLA?
If Drinkwitz's wife doesn't like State College, she must be yearning to leave Columbia, Missouri.
This. But,
Terry Smith is rubbing me the wrong way big time. Many reasons. The only people who want him cant move on from the 80s.
My guess is that most of them have virtually no opinion of Joe since they aren’t old enough to remember him. And of the remainder, I’d say they’re as likely to have a negative opinion as a positive one due to the scandal.
I think you can definitely make the case that some alumni are letting Terry’s ties to Joe sway them too much. But not today’s students. They chanted his name because he was giving them good fun football to watch again.
Okay--let's go with that--they were happy they had a good gun game to watch--that doesn't mean he should be the next coach--it goes to the "emotion" comment i made--plus, they were likely drunk lol
He’s 7-1 vs top 10, 18-3 vs top 25
Quite different than Franklin
Please, Franklin was not a great recruiter. He was a good recruiter who was better at player development.
Creat issues? There already are issues. Krafty’s hires have not been stellar and he refuses to dump the WBB coach who should have been his first fire.
Total mystery to me as to the status of that game as it relates to his candidacy? Is he tired of following in Saban’s footsteps?
I don’t endorse him but maybe his supporters like him because the team has an identity now and is playing their butts off for him?
Kraft created his little room for error by saying in a press release Franklin was fired because the “standard” was Big Ten and National Championships at Penn State (despite the fact that the last Big Ten Championship was in 2016 under Franklin and the last National Championship was in 1986). He then compounds that situation by saying the fans “deserve” a National Championship. Those “deserving” fans will expect no less.
I don't believe for a second if he didn't have ties to Joe and made it clear where he stood on the subject of Paterno that beating Nebraksa and Michigan State while losing in typical Franklin fashion to Indiana would make anyone want him.
Yes, because he was so good at developing wide receivers and QB’s.
He is overrated as a recruiter but he wasn't a great talent developer...but more than that...he struggled to put players in a position to have success and reach their potential
At this point, I just want the whole damn soap opera to be over with.
I disagree. Terry's gambit, which is resonating with Paterno lettermen and with those still resentful about Paterno's implication in the Sandusky scandal and its aftermath, is to link himself to Paterno and thus leveraging that contingent to support him. I listened to Robinson, Cabinda, and Hackenberg and all I can do is shake my head. They are waxing rhapsodic about how Smith is resurrecting "Penn State football" and how he is instilling toughness using two conference doormats as points of evaluation.
Do I think he would make a good HC? No idea. But the play is clear, Couple himself to the Paterno legacy and thus energize disgruntled Paterno fans and lettermen (and more important boosters) into supporting him as a way of resurrecting the past. Win or lose this will reinvigorate the divisions simmering in the Penn State community. It is selfish and harmful. If I were Kraft this would be the end of the road for Terry. When he hires the next guy tell him not to retain Terry so that there is no blood on his hands.
And yet Kraft can't find a suitable replacement. Imagine if Franklin was actually good ?
Yeah, I also believe it was very selfish and harmful as well. He spent more time getting leadership advice from Franklin and digging out an old pin than keeping the recruiting class together or preventing Mahon from implementing Franklin’s revenge.