Of course about 90% of your posts are about how bowl games are irrelevant. In a discussion about grilling you’d probably post that you don’t grill for bowl games because they’re irrelevant.
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90% of my posts are about the FACT bowls games are antiquated and no longer have meaning? 90%? Might want to research that.
Some of you guys can't be this stupid or perhaps it's a lack of common sense. No one has to talk about joe or kiss his *** at every press conference .The point was there was nothing in lasch, for example, to indicate joe ever coached for Penn State. Now if you don't think 50 years of lettermen would be put off by that I'm not sure what to tell you. And then yes - that also includes 50 years of donors.
What does that have to do with Franklin or the next coach though?
Blame those responsible. Franklin deserves a lot of criticism--not about Joe though
It’s proving that he can motivate players and and get the staff to commit to playing his style. Again, I’m not saying he’s my choice but he has definitely shown something. The team that he took over was dead on the vine. He brought them back to life.
Maybe we're looking at "proving" differently here.
The stated mission was to hire someone that could win titles--he hasn't shown a glimpse of that yet alone proven it
He's proven he's more willing to adapt than Franklin but so is my 2 year old granddaughter....
Right--but what about that is concerning Franklin? The AD is responsible for Lasch. Do you want him to hang a picture of the former coach in his office? None of this makes sense.
Nobody without head coaching experience has proven they could win a title. He has shown that he can get a team and staff to do some of the things necessary to win a championship though. Again, not my choice but I wouldn’t be pissed off at him getting the job.
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That's fine--we just see it differently--the Indiana game proved to me that he wasn't capable
Yes it does. The Lasch Building is Penn State Football. And that includes before 2014. If you don't get it I don't get that but it's okay.
He proved to you in his third game as a head coach of a team he took over for game 7 of the season with his QB getting his third (?) career start against a top 5 team in the country that he’s not capable of ever winning a championship?
I’ll agree with you that we just see things differently.
False...its neither fact nor opinion. It's simply wrong. Some things are just wrong.
Combine that with his failures in big games at the High School level. Ask him his record in WPIAL titles games.
We watch him mismanage the game...nor shocking given his history or the two coaches he's worked for in his career.
Julian Sayin beat #1 Texas in his very first start. Why do Terry’s losses needs asterisks but his wins don’t?
Not it's a fact. They have zero meaning. They're merely a scrimmage to provide entertainment and make money. See there's this thing called a playoff which tells everyone else who still has games that matter remaining and if you win that you're a champion. I know it's complicated. Some toddlers struggle with that too. Not all but some.
Sayin walked in and took over a juggernaut. Smith walked into a team that was left for dead. Not exactly an equal comparison.
A 20 million dollar roster in NIL, 14 returning starters, preseason #2, Top 15 roster is a team left for dead? All I heard preseason was Penn State followed the OSU Michigan model with returning starters and seniors, we are peaking, this team can win a natty. Now the same exact roster isn’t an equal comparison.
If they had zero meaning they wouldn’t count the win/loss on your record or the stats. See, it’s an opinion. Even toddlers could figure that out.
Yes, it was a team left for dead. The coach he followed had the team completely fall flat all season.
Forget preseason rankings, where they they ranked when Smith took over?
Yes, they make them count so people watch…see, you made my argument for me, thanks.
They count, so they’re not irrelevant as much as you want them to be. Not sure why you’re so hung up on this topic. If they don’t matter to you, then don’t watch them….why do you care if other people don’t think they’re irrelevant?
Smith has been there for 12 years, he’s not some enigma that’s appeared magically from smoke. This is a very talented roster beating up on bum teams to which you’re completely crediting to smith but in reality these are very easy wins for this team or they should have been.
Preseason football counts as wins and losses...I'm sure you're very worried about the outcome of those.
It's fine to think what you want until your criticize players for skipping them or are dumb enough to believe the outcome of that bowl games is more important than the next coach that's hired. People living in a world ignoring reality just create issues for others.
But preseason doesn’t count on your permanent win/loss record. And I don’t care whether players opt out or not, so you’re talking to the wrong person. I’m just saying your argument is based on your opinion, not facts.
Northwestern should have been a very easy win. Iowa should have been a very easy win. The last coach crapped the bed. Smith got them pointed in the right direction. That’s all I’m saying.
They are permanently tracked for all of eternity.
It's not an opinion...they don't matter...if they did their wouldn't be opt outs