I never said he was the answer. Judging him on his first 3 games against iowa and the number 1 and 2 teams in the nation is unfair. He also knew enough to make changes in how the OC called plays by limiting the trick plays that rarely worked and started throwing the ball down the field. Also he didn't have the advantage of having his starting qb.
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Tuscaloosa isn't bad. The problem is it's in alabama.
I would've been happy just to be in contention for the BIG every 2 or 3 years.
So you heard it here first or last - Urban as HC at PSU - Hartline OC and HC in waiting keep Knowles - OSU East better than OSU MW.
Not the nicest college town I have been to but not the worst - State College is better overall I think bit is in the middle of Pennsyltucky.
I have it on good Authority the next coach is none other than the Chin, Bill Cowher.
Which is fine...but comparing Cignetti and Meyer is a battle Cignetti can't win
Name the 3...
And again...when did they decommit? Why couldn't Smith keep them?
I promise you they'll regret their decisions but it's was their mistake to make...like Allar returning was pure stupidity as he listened to man that didn't care at all about Drew's future.
agree with King when you make a business decision such as Silas Redd did how did that pan out? Recruits should of waited but they can always come back hence the portal but it might be to late.
If you want to know why we’ll be the laughing stock of CFB for the next three years. You’re looking at it. What’s worse than a 409 cult member? A 409 cult member with money.
This is joke...they should be supporting an open search
It's just reinforcing the cult criticism and confirms everything O'Brien said...more than a decade later. Absurd.
I missed the OL.The OL and the RB are the 2 I remember seeing.
The RB will be gone by 2028
Rumor I’ve seen on podcasts is that, after Franklin was fired, a PSU staffer was on the phone telling commits to decommit (while he was still employed by PsU and before he followed Franklin to VT). A week or so later he officially went to VT to be with Franklin. Don’t know how reliable that rumor is.
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heard the same thing. Unethical and sad but Franklin always if and when he left was taking the kitchen sink. That is just who Franklin is takes everything.
Also, the 4 star TE, Petersohn, committed to VA Tech on Thanksgiving. In addition to him and Mickens, there were two OL who committed - Bright and Lubintus.The OL and the RB are the 2 I remember seeing.
Thats todays game and the way its now managed. I would expect to whomever is coming to us to do the same thing. And people here will love it.
Let's pretend this was a fact...how was Smith not in contact enough with them to know and to hand "the staffer" immediately removed???
The only logical responses are...
He wasn't recruiting as needed
He was helping Franklin
Just like when Franklin took Vandy recruits.Thats todays game and the way its now managed. I would expect to whomever is coming to us to do the same thing. And people here will love it.
That seems like a reasonable thing to speculate. I'd think most established head coaches would already have an idea of coordinators for the job and may not like being told who they have to hire/keep in those spots. But on the flipside I don't think you can allow a $3M contract with Knowles dictate the hire either.
The coaching profession at this level is a certainly tight knit community, I'd imagine there are all sorts of friendships and mentoring relationships that would drive the casual fan insane.
My best friend's sister's boyfriend's brother's girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who's going with a girl who heard Chesney had a great interview last night. I guess it's pretty serious.
They need to cut free from all these Penn State ties to truly move on. Smith has rubbed me the wrong way and he cant stick around as far as I'm concerned.
Yeah, I was definitely expecting him to go on national television and state that his goal is to find a coach capable of winning at least one national title about every 40 years as has been our history.
But why would you hire someone being mentored by someone you just fired for failing to be able to get the to next level?
Just doesn't sound like something an intelligent person would acknowledge even if it is true
Wonder why Knowles hasn't come up as a potential HC. Venables is doing fairly well at OK. Guess at 60 he's kinda old.
Actually the cousin twice removed was in the restroom stall and overheard the caller in the next stall before he flushed!
He'd be better than Terry--and make a lot more sense but he doesn't have ties to Joe so no one is considering it.
Knowles does have HC experience at the college level--wasn't very good though
If it were Meyer there's no reason to wait until after the season unless Meyer is playing games and maintaining interest but not committing. If that's the case PSU should have told him to **** or get off the pot. We could have announced him many weeks ago and gotten a head start on recruiting.
My son and I were talking today on the way home from the Christmas tree cutting. That’s for @fairgambit
We concluded.
suburban Meyer is named HC and Hartline is named assistant HC/OC/HC in training.
Covers the bases of “late mystery coach” and “big name” all in one swoop.
Sitake may be higher up on our board than we think. There is a reason his name is coming up here at the end. He may the first fallback after Deboer and now Riley, who has been looking around. Chesney seems like he is an option after those 3.
Why is that necessarily a bad thing? If you commit to a coach, you follow the coach. If you commit to a University, you follow the University. It's been this way forever and works out for everyone usually.
Salvaging the loss of a handful of recruits for the short term should not be a factor for hiring a guy you hope to lead your program for the next decade. Best of luck to those young men…if you get the right guy, they won’t be missed.
