More issues at Michigan St

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We will now see if Michigan St will escape NCAA scrutiny. A woman who claims she was raped by 3 basketball players has come forward. The players are not identified but the school could be implicated because the assault happened on campus.

Sorry, should have added this. This not a new case but the woman was suppressed about coming out with her accusations. Apparently this happened in 2015 after The Spartans we’re eliminated from final 4.
 
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gocds

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Well if “m.o.” is a consideration the NCAA will probably use the “UNC example” as . . . . Naaaaaa I think they will say that has nothing to do with compliance with the rules.

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PushupMan

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We will now see if Michigan St will escape NCAA scrutiny. A woman who claims she was raped by 3 basketball players has come forward. The players are not identified but the school could be implicated because the assault happened on campus.

This a criminal issue, not a case of NCAA violations. Why would the NCAA get involved, when the courts can punish the offenders much more effectively?

Now, if the coaches or AD knew about the assault and attempted to cover it up, then you might have both the NCAA punishing Michigan St. and the criminal courts punishing the players and the administrators.
 
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SiouxfallsEric13

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This a criminal issue, not a case of NCAA violations. Why would the NCAA get involved, when the courts can punish the offenders much more effectively?

Now, if the coaches or AD knew about the assault and attempted to cover it up, then you might have both the NCAA punishing Michigan St. and the criminal courts punishing the players and the administrators.
Question, pushup. Do you think the NCAA could go after them like the did Baylor? It seems to me there was a culture of suppressing rape victims to help benefit the football and the basketball teams there.
 

PushupMan

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Question, pushup. Do you think the NCAA could go after them like the did Baylor? It seems to me there was a culture of suppressing rape victims to help benefit the football and the basketball teams there.

Possibly ... but it sounds like in the 2015 incident the athletic department didn’t even know about it because the young lady decided not to report anything after being discouraged to do so by a counselor (not affiliated with the athletic department). Then the other incidents occurred all the way back in 2010. Since it’s been nearly a decade, I wouldn’t expect the NCAA to get involved unless someone provides the NCAA with evidence that a member (or members) of the athletic department actively worked to cover up evidence.
 
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This a criminal issue, not a case of NCAA violations. Why would the NCAA get involved, when the courts can punish the offenders much more effectively?

Completely agree. Criminal issue, not an NCAA issue. What is the penalty for rape, a scholarship reduction? LOL.
 

SiouxfallsEric13

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Completely agree. Criminal issue, not an NCAA issue. What is the penalty for rape, a scholarship reduction? LOL.
Morgantown, I would usually agree with you but we live in the "Me Too" Era now. We live in a time now where if you are a man and stare at a woman in yoga pants too long, see cries sexual harassment. All it takes is for enough of them to latch onto this and the NCAA may have to look into it just to keep from being labeled insensitive to woman's issues.
 

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Completely agree. Criminal issue, not an NCAA issue. What is the penalty for rape, a scholarship reduction? LOL.

We can say its all about "me too" or political correctness but I have a bigger issue with a program covering up a rape or other crime by an athlete to keep them eligible than someone taking money from a booster. Which is actually more harmful? Its happened before for every story we've heard about there are 5 more we haven't. I was a proponent of Penn st getting sanctions for allowing someone to molest small children and for Baylor willfully covering up rapes. Why shouldn't that get an administrator banned from the sport? With Mich st, there is too much smoke going around to not be a fire somewhere. I've heard stories along these lines too many times about that bball program to not have some truth to it.
 

Thecycle27

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Completely agree. Criminal issue, not an NCAA issue. What is the penalty for rape, a scholarship reduction? LOL.
Was it a school counselor that discouraged her from filing against student athletes? If so you could argue the school, doesn't need to be in the athletic department, was protecting student athletes. Would the advice have been different if wasn't an athlete, I assume yes.

That is a cultural thing at MSU, yes the NCAA could get involved but they won't. A school counselor telling a student you don't want to mess with athletes.....how is that not a NCAA issue if true.
 

SiouxfallsEric13

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Morgantown, I would usually agree with you but we live in the "Me Too" Era now. We live in a time now where if you are a man and stare at a woman in yoga pants too long, see cries sexual harassment. All it takes is for enough of them to latch onto this and the NCAA may have to look into it just to keep from being labeled insensitive to woman's issues.
I did not mean to sound dismissive, I was trying to say that MSU might want to sweep this under the rug if they can. The only way it doesn't is if woman demand to get its pound of flesh.
 

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Nah the NCAA doesn't find all this stuff going on at MSU morally repugnant enough.
It's too widespread to specifically target an investigation.

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KozmasAgain

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Michigan State could go the UNC route and have a regular student rape the girl and then the NCAA would say it was OK. In all seriousness if Penn State was hit with penalties then I would expect the same to happen to MSU.