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The obsession with former coaches is quite a sport for some.
Don’t act like a pic of your ex isn’t your Lock Screen.
I have to wonder what he ever did to deserve to be made a head coach? And then, once he became a head coach what he did for another school to hire him as their head coach?
If it's because he coached Saquon Barkley and that's why we hired him here, then ok, but he was an absolute failure here. Why would anyone have made him their head coach after what he did here?
The thing is, he wasn't an absolute failure here when looking at it from the outside. He won 8 and 6 games and got canned.
WE could see the issues, but I'm not shocked he landed a job at a smaller school immediately. I think at this point he'll either retire or spend a decent amount of time as a coordinator somewhere.
Wasn't there some academic foul play here when he was coach?
In between he was at Oregon for two seasons as OC, where he was moderately successful.
and why the hell is he still employed there? He is 8-28 at Akron and was put on reduced practice times last season for academic standards (lack of), and again this season can't go to a bowl game (which they wouldn't make anyway with him in charge) Do some schools just not give any damns or fvcks what happens to their reputation?
This was the worst hire in the history of MSU sports made at the worst possible time. John Cohen was so ovef his head and this is exhibit A
as is the overlooking and shortcomings and failures of an athletic department including ADs and head coaches for others
Yes, all eight wins in 2018 were vacated due to the tutor cheating deal. Though in random places including MSU's own records they act like they weren't vacated, so maybe nobody cares. I sure don't, that was still an 8-win season.
I remember the days when we were pissed at having wasted our talent and only winning 8 games. You member?
Tutorgate, which is funny, if you ask some folks on message boards that were trying so hard to keep their sources within the athletic department at the time, they would tell you that none of it was Moorheads fault.
I'm still pissed at having wasted our talent and only winning 8 games that year.
How is this an obsession? He was terrible coach for us (still is for Akron) and recently said in an interview he was just as good as his predecessor and successor (he was substantially worse than both and one had to clean up his mess). This is just more proof of how incompetent of a coach he is.
I agree with you on pure coaching ability (or an extreme lack thereof). I think the thing that riles folks up with Joe-boy is that he was gifted a team that should have at least won the West, and he pooched it even with the 8 wins. How unfocused and unprepared a veteran team looked was a direct reflection on the man in charge.
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Food for thought.
Rick Ray inherited a dumpster fire here where four players with NBA level talent left the previous season. He was hired by SEMO after leaving $tate and compiled an 88-104 (.314) record.
Moronhead inherited one of the best MSU teams in the modern era and absolutely destroyed it. He has complied an 8-28 (.222) record at Akron.
That SOB wasted the greatest state football team in history talent wise. 10 wins should have been our floor. We legit could have won the SEC that year.
The absolute worst season ever given our talent level. Literally everything lined up perfectly.
How do you give up 8 touchdowns over an entire season and lose four games?
Ray was a rebuild hire and a gamble that lost.
Moorhead was "a hot commodity" that was given a Lambo and drove it straight into the ditch.
Really no comparison between the two.
Troy McClure help you with that math?
We had Superman at QB and the Spartan Army for a Defense.
Yea sure Hevesy would have been a sure fire hire. Yes I know we had better options but he’s the first person I thought of when I read your post.
JM had a stellar record at his only other HC gig prior to us. As the HC at Fordham from 2012-2015 he complied a record of 38-13 (32-8 after his first year).
However, upon closer inpection that was "Fool's Gold". Fordham, a member of the Patriot League, became the only team in their league to switch to a return to scholarships in 2010. Moving from need-based financial aid to full football scholarships however appeared to give the Rams a competitive advantage over the rest of the Patriot League. After some deliberation Fordham was allowed to continue with its conference schedule although those contests did not officially count in the conference standings. Furthermore the school was ruled ineligible from any conference titles (and thus an automatic bid into the Division I Football Championship Subdivision playoffs) until 2014 when the rest of the league was also able to switch to mostly scholarship rosters.
So, when Joe took over at Fordham he had the luxury of 2 seasons of scholarships + the 3rd of his own recruiting going in against every other team having none until 2014. By the time the other schools started offering scholarships in 2014, Joe was already on his 5th year of scholarhip athletes, then 6 years vs 2 in his last year of 2015.
The media made a big deal of his great record, but didn't bother taking more than a shallow dive into the real nitty-gritty. Hard to imagine even a relatively poor HC with that huge an advantage not getting similar results. I'm sure Joe would have had great success as HC at State if he got to play most of his games vs Division III.
Shame on our Athletic Department for apparently not giving enough weight to the above factor.
The same way you throw the ball 30+ times against Kentucky with Nick Fitzgerald, Kylin Hill or Aeris Williams, and Elgton Jenkins all on the field at the same time.
The same way you hold Iowa to -15 yards rushing but still lose the damn game.
Not having a ******* clue.
He was a good offensive coordinator, bad head coach, and had a knack for coaching cliches. He talked his way into the job, but underperformed with a stout roster and had no control over his team. Discipline issues and Bob from Bogue Chitto put the nail in his coffin here. He needs to go back to being an OC at a power school and leave the program running to someone who can handle it.
That's the truth. The media loved him because he would do "coaching clinics" for them and always used technical lingo, and they all thought he was an offensive genius. Compare that to Leach, a true genius, who never spoke in football lingo. Hell, Lebby doesn't really do it as much as Moorhead. It left me with impression of a guy who lacked self-confidence and overcompensated by trying to impress everyone with his use of technical terms.
He's not even a great OC. He's a big turd of a coach who is overwhelmed. Probably a nice guy but that's about it. We all know who the offensive brains were at Penn St, he's an OC in the NFL now and won a natty at LSU.
Don't forget it was also freaking raining at Kentucky and we still threw the ball
He sucked. Telling your young fans, who were intently listening to your postgame explanation, to go pound sand wasn’t very nice. He was able to swindle the administration, but not the fan base.