More Pelini fail

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Save the "get over it, he's not here any more" posts. I don't care. Just illustrates why Pelini needed to go and the cancer he was. Below is an interview with Evan Bohem who picked Missouri over us essentially because he was embarrassed by the way Pelini handled himself on the sidelines. Interview starts around the 30 minute mark...not much more than that was said though.


http://arizonasports.com/player/?a=322300
 

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I'm just playing Devil's Advocate here, but Boehm was virtually a Mizzou lock since he was 15 years old. He can make those comments all he wants, and Bo's behavior likely did lead to a negative perception of the Huskers. But that kid was heading to Missouri whether Bo was the coach at Nebraska or not.
 

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I'm just playing Devil's Advocate here, but Boehm was virtually a Mizzou lock since he was 15 years old. He can make those comments all he wants, and Bo's behavior likely did lead to a negative perception of the Huskers. But that kid was heading to Missouri whether Bo was the coach at Nebraska or not.

Maybe...but he was also a kid who decommitted from Missouri. That was his perception of Pelini and I'm sure he wasn't the only recruit who felt that way.
 

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I know the makers of Attends™ were a big Peelini supporter, as was the maker of Lithium.


OP...I call bs! Current coach has "carte Blanche" in terms of what he wants! Better equate to a hell of a lot of wins!
 

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I knew there would be trouble when head coach bo left, cause when dc coach bo left there was the elevator incident.
and it wasn't about solich.
 

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There may have been some kids who picked us because they liked Pelini's "passion".
There certainly were guys who came here because they liked the former coach's passion. 100%. But this is why that did more damage to the program than just a guy. He recruited guys who had that same "us against the world" mindset and while that can result in instant success, over the long haul, it is not productive.
 

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OP...I call bs! Current coach has "carte Blanche" in terms of what he wants! Better equate to a hell of a lot of wins!
There is no B S in bigboxes, humor and wit; yes. But I get it; you want to discuss the trend of the thread. Sparky and the others above are on point. IF, you are making demands on the next coach - I am impressed by the drive and commitment from top to bottom at NU. There are no locks for the internet goals some sit in chairs and demand. If you truly think any team can win the BIG every year or regularly: then root for tOSU; because Urban is in best position IMO; and its not happening ( it was a crime they weren't in the play-offs last year, another hand one to Ala and SEC. IMO, its why we need eight teams; let Okie in last year to keep TX and the littles from whistle blowing or some such ). GBR
 

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Wrong

Created a "Director of Player Personnel"
Increased recruiting staff and budget

Bo couldn't even get the guy to pay for a Priest on the sideline!

It's been stated numerous times(I've also been told first hand from prominent posters from this site & others) from many different people that BP had everything to make it work, including private jets(messed up that offering also). All the guy had to do was ask. He just chose to not recruit & use the excuse that "You can't recruit to Nebraska". Sorry but you're wrong on this one & I'll stand by what I know.
 
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As did his predecessor who was too ignorant/ lazy to take advantage.
Facts are facts. Funny how this AD tripled the recruiting budget, and people are still so ignorant to buy that claim. You can't fix stupid!
 
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Huh? Is this a joke? Why would you have to pay a priest to be on the sideline? And anyway, why would Mark Pelini want a priest on the sideline, to take confession?
There was a team chaplain at all games. Is this seriously what bloners are down to complaing about?
What's next? Bo didn't get enough powder in his diaper?
 
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Wrong

Created a "Director of Player Personnel"
Increased recruiting staff and budget

Bo couldn't even get the guy to pay for a Priest on the sideline!
Did you ***** when Eichorst tripled the budger for recruiting when Blo was here? But Blo was too ignorant to use what he was given access to. Don't blame this staff for simply taking advantage of what was always available (unless you are referring to Osborne, who did not give Bo nearly the budget). If that is your complaint, then you are right. I agree that Osborne was in over his head and pinched pennies.
 
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Wrong

Created a "Director of Player Personnel"
Increased recruiting staff and budget

Bo couldn't even get the guy to pay for a Priest on the sideline!
From the OWH:
Nebraska football spent $818,509 on college football recruiting during the 2012-13 school year, according to data compiled by USA Today.

Nebraska enjoyed a 88.5 percent increase in its recruiting budget from 2008-09 — Pelini's first year in the program — to 2012-13.

For the 2013-2014 school year Nebraska spent $904,000

For the 2015-16 year, Nebraska football had $1,000,049 budgeted for recruiting.
 
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From the OWH:
Nebraska football spent $818,509 on college football recruiting during the 2012-13 school year, according to data compiled by USA Today.

Nebraska enjoyed a 88.5 percent increase in its recruiting budget from 2008-09 — Pelini's first year in the program — to 2012-13.

For the 2013-2014 school year Nebraska spent $904,000

For the 2015-16 year, Nebraska football had $1,000,049 budgeted for recruiting.

I am guessing that last year's satellite camps and the Friday Night Lights camps were part of the recruiting budget for 2015-16.

Just seems like our 2015-16 budget would have jumped more with several satellite camps and the social media team we've added. I thought it would've made the budget increase more than it did. Makes me wonder what Bo's staff spent all of the money on.
 
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I am guessing that last year's satellite camps and the Friday Night Lights camps were part of the recruiting budget for 2015-16.

Just seems like our 2015-16 budget would have jumped more with several satellite camps and the social media team we've added. I thought it would've made the budget increase more than it did. Makes me wonder what Bo's staff spent all of the money on.
But but but he didn't get any support!!!
 

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It's been stated numerous times(I've also been told first hand from prominent posters from this site & others) from many different people that BP had everything to make it work, including private jets(messed up that offering also). All the guy had to do was ask. He just chose to not recruit & use the excuse that "You can't recruit to Nebraska". Sorry but you're wrong on this one & I'll stand by what I know.
agreed Pelini did not like to recruit period perhaps his biggest failing was the lack of defensive recruiting especially DT's and DE coming off the 2009 Suh led defense - I do not subscribe however to the theory stated in this thread that his recruits were cancers because they liked Bo - Bo did have an appeal to players and was not a raving lunatic in the living room - his problem was lack of recruiting and then following that up with denial that the recruiting was not his fault
 
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agreed Pelini did not like to recruit period perhaps his biggest failing was the lack of defensive recruiting especially DT's and DE coming off the 2009 Suh led defense - I do not subscribe however to theory stated in this thread that his recruits were cancers becuase they liked Bo - Bo did have an appeal to players and was not a raving lunatic in the living room - his problem was lack of recruting and then following that up with denial that the recruiting was not his fault

Bo was a cancer and festered, even to the point that an ex-coach was calling players after he was fired. BO appealed to the players to an extent that it was referred to "The Stockholm Syndrome". I have no love for that man. His only problem wasn't just lack of recruiting, it was also a narcissistic persona that set this program back 4-5 years.
 

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Bo was a cancer and festered, even to the point that an ex-coach was calling players after he was fired. BO appealed to the players to an extent that it was referred to "The Stockholm Syndrome". I have no love for that man. His only problem wasn't just lack of recruiting, it was also a narcissistic persona that set this program back 4-5 years.
maybe you are right I was just responding to the recruit aspect of things with him - he is no longer our coach and is not relevant to NU football - Having a guy "setting the program back 5 years" gives to little credit to the program itselfvand the positive influence a good coach can have
 
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The proof will be in the pudding and winning 6 games is crap!

I think it was six. I quit watching after the Purdue game!
 
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maybe you are right I was just responding to the recruit aspect of things with him - he is no longer our coach and is not relevant to NU football - Having a guy "setting the program back 5 years" gives to little credit to the program itselfvand the positive influence a good coach can have
And yet you and the rest of his apologists blamed Callahan for 7 years. At least Cally left some good talent and depth.
 
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maybe you are right I was just responding to the recruit aspect of things with him - he is no longer our coach and is not relevant to NU football - Having a guy "setting the program back 5 years" gives to little credit to the program itselfvand the positive influence a good coach can have

Thanks for the good debate. I really appreciate you keeping this above board.
 
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The proof will be in the pudding and winning 6 games is crap!

I think it was six. I quit watching after the Purdue game!
Wow; so do you think you missed any relevant games and player development? Its nice of you to stop by our board though. You might go back before the Purdue game and check out some of those games to get the 6 win thing in a different context. I think you will be impressed with what seems an around the clock effort to improve. Even now, coaching can be a tough gig; at this level there are a lot of big money players. GBR
 

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Did you ***** when Eichorst tripled the budger for recruiting when Blo was here? But Blo was too ignorant to use what he was given access to. Don't blame this staff for simply taking advantage of what was always available (unless you are referring to Osborne, who did not give Bo nearly the budget). If that is your complaint, then you are right. I agree that Osborne was in over his head and pinched pennies.
Was the man of the cloth thing in case bo had a razor edge on his cap ? Thinking they may have thought he was narrowly missing refs with it; last rights may have been needed ? Well unfortunately, maybe also for his career; he was so lucky to be here, now he has to coach against good coaches on another level.... IMO he should have got another co-coordinator position from a buddy. Would have given him cover for a higher level head coach position. Instead his back to his roots thing : He had more sideline action, and where is the phenom record?
 

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Let's see what Mike can do with a few of his own recruiting classes rather than with his inheritance from Pelini.

I'm glad Bo is gone and I'm all for giving Riley time to fix the culture and build up our talent and depth.

I'm just concerned that most of our losses last year had little to do with talent or depth. We blew several winnable games where we had 4th quarter leads because of questionable clock management/playcalling at the end of the game. It also shouldn't take an entire season to realize that having Tommy Armstrong throw 40 passes a game isn't a good idea. I expected Bo to be in over his head as a head coach, but Riley has 20+ years of head coaching experience. We made too many rookie mistakes from such an experienced staff IMO.

Again, that does not mean I want to fire Riley and bring Bo back. I just think respectful criticism of coaches is a good thing. People made excuses for Pelini for far too long and that ended up setting the program back in the long run.
 
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I'm glad Bo is gone and I'm all for giving Riley time to fix the culture and build up our talent and depth.

I'm just concerned that most of our losses last year had little to do with talent or depth. We blew several winnable games where we had 4th quarter leads because of questionable clock management/playcalling at the end of the game. It also shouldn't take an entire season to realize that having Tommy Armstrong throw 40 passes a game isn't a good idea. I expected Bo to be in over his head as a head coach, but Riley has 20+ years of head coaching experience. We made too many rookie mistakes from such an experienced staff IMO.

Again, that does not mean I want to fire Riley and bring Bo back. I just think respectful criticism of coaches is a good thing. People made excuses for Pelini for far too long and that ended up setting the program back in the long run.

Agree, brain farts by the staff cost us 2-3 games last year in the fourth quarter.