More Regional Projection/National Seed Analysis

615dawg

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As I stated Sunday night, there are five teams vying for the last two national seed spots.

Oregon
Florida State
Mississippi State
North Carolina State
South Carolina

SEBaseball's projections came out yesterday - he has Oregon (#8) and NC State (#7) getting the nod. If the season ended right now, I don't necessarily disagree, but NC State has a tough next two weekends. They have a great opportunity - winning series against North Carolina and Virginia (both national seeds) would solidify a national seed for them, but they are just as likely to lose both of those series.

The ACC will not get more than three national seeds, so Florida State is out as long as NC State is in. Florida State and NC State have a series in a couple of weeks. The perfect thing to happen would be for NC State to drop their next two series, then show up against FSU, effectively knocking them out as well. But if realism sets in, you have to chalk that either NC State or Florida State will get a national seed, so there is really one that is up for grabs, unless someone else goes on an unexpected losing streak.

Oregon has Stanford this weekend, a Top 25 team in the polls with a horrible RPI. They are basically the Pac 12's Arkansas. They also have future losable series with Ohio State, Gonzaga and Oregon State. We need for Oregon to struggle down the stretch to open up that spot.

I don't have access to SEBaseball's S-curve, but my best guess is he has us 10th and Florida State 9th. We are effectively 9th because of the "ACC isn't getting four" rule. If we take 1 this weekend, I think the status quo holds. If we take 2, we could find ourselves on the right side of the national seed discussion.

Now to last night.

UNC Wilmington won in CHapel Hill. I have a feeling they will be playing in a regional together. Seahawks are worth watching. They are a lot like the mid -2000s Coastal Carolina.
Vanderbilt beat Louisville. Louisville is barely holding on to a regional host spot.
Long Beach destroyed UCLA. I think UCLA is safe, but that's not a good loss to an 18-20 LBSU team.
Gardner Webb knocked off South Carolina. This puts a little more space between us and USCe. Would really like to see LSU sweep the Gamecocks this weekend.
Georgia beat Georgia Tech 17-0. Yes, the Georgia that is the worst team in the SEC beat a regional host contender 17-0.
Kentucky's slide continues, they lost to Western Kentucky.

SEBaseball has Florida hosting. I just don't see it at 22-19, but its possible that the SEC gets five. This is a strange year where instead of 25 teams being in the regional host conversation, there are really only 19 or 20. If you take SEBaseball's 16 hosts and add Michigan State, Oklahoma, Ole Miss and Clemson. - I think those are the only teams that have a legit shot.
 

615dawg

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Also for your entertainment ...

Blind Resumes. Don't cheat. Pick three to be a national seed.

Team 1Team 2Team 3Team 4Team 5Team 6
Overall Record33-1031-832-930-1033-1031-11
vs. Top 5013-85-510-97-913-68-4
vs. 101+18-017-215-017-114-115-3
Strength of Schedule213027333543

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57stratdawg

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Blind Resumes. Don't cheat. Pick three to be a national seed.

Team 1
Team 2
Team 3
Team 4
Team 5
Team 6
Overall Record
33-10
31-8
32-9
30-10
33-10
31-11
vs. Top 50
13-8
5-5
10-9
7-9
13-6
8-4
vs. 101+
18-0
17-2
15-0
17-1
14-1
15-3
Strength of Schedule
21
30
27
33
35
43

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I'd go:

Team 1
Team 5
Team 3

How is team 2's SOS 30 with only 10 games against the top 50?
 
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615dawg

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I think most people would go 1, 3 and 5.




































1, 3 and 5 are Mississippi State, Florida State and NC State.

2 is Oregon State, 4 is Oregon and 6 is South Carolina.
 
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KurtRambis4

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Oregon

is a national seed over Oregon State? Isn't OSU ranked higher in all of the polls with a better record, in the same league? I may have completely misread this, though.
 

615dawg

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They both are at this point. My little experiment below shows that neither should be able to make an argument over us, NC State or Florida State.
 

patdog

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1 & 5 easy. Then either 3 or 6 for the last national seed. It's very close between those two. I'd go with #3 because of the tougher schedule and lack of bad losses, but I'm biased because I know who #3 is.
 

GOOD_DAWG2.0

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As I stated Sunday night, there are five teams vying for the last two national seed spots.

Oregon
Florida State
Mississippi State
North Carolina State
South Carolina

SEBaseball's projections came out yesterday - he has Oregon (#8) and NC State (#7) getting the nod. If the season ended right now, I don't necessarily disagree, but NC State has a tough next two weekends. They have a great opportunity - winning series against North Carolina and Virginia (both national seeds) would solidify a national seed for them, but they are just as likely to lose both of those series.

The ACC will not get more than three national seeds, so Florida State is out as long as NC State is in. Florida State and NC State have a series in a couple of weeks. The perfect thing to happen would be for NC State to drop their next two series, then show up against FSU, effectively knocking them out as well. But if realism sets in, you have to chalk that either NC State or Florida State will get a national seed, so there is really one that is up for grabs, unless someone else goes on an unexpected losing streak.

Oregon has Stanford this weekend, a Top 25 team in the polls with a horrible RPI. They are basically the Pac 12's Arkansas. They also have future losable series with Ohio State, Gonzaga and Oregon State. We need for Oregon to struggle down the stretch to open up that spot.

I don't have access to SEBaseball's S-curve, but my best guess is he has us 10th and Florida State 9th. We are effectively 9th because of the "ACC isn't getting four" rule. If we take 1 this weekend, I think the status quo holds. If we take 2, we could find ourselves on the right side of the national seed discussion.

Now to last night.

UNC Wilmington won in CHapel Hill. I have a feeling they will be playing in a regional together. Seahawks are worth watching. They are a lot like the mid -2000s Coastal Carolina.
Vanderbilt beat Louisville. Louisville is barely holding on to a regional host spot.
Long Beach destroyed UCLA. I think UCLA is safe, but that's not a good loss to an 18-20 LBSU team.
Gardner Webb knocked off South Carolina. This puts a little more space between us and USCe. Would really like to see LSU sweep the Gamecocks this weekend.
Georgia beat Georgia Tech 17-0. Yes, the Georgia that is the worst team in the SEC beat a regional host contender 17-0.
Kentucky's slide continues, they lost to Western Kentucky.

SEBaseball has Florida hosting. I just don't see it at 22-19, but its possible that the SEC gets five. This is a strange year where instead of 25 teams being in the regional host conversation, there are really only 19 or 20. If you take SEBaseball's 16 hosts and add Michigan State, Oklahoma, Ole Miss and Clemson. - I think those are the only teams that have a legit shot.
You are the man. This is a great write up. I agree. At this point we host if we can hold the status quo. But I'd like to jump to a national seed, so maybe take two this weekend or sweep USCe. Either of those might bump us a bit. I'm encouraged regardless. We're playing great baseball, so don't count us out of anything just yet.
 

RocketDawg

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#1 at this point, but #5 is very close. #3 isn't bad, but they've lost a lot to the top 50, even though their SoS is better than 5.
 

BiscuitEater

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Team 1 is clear leader, with 3 & 5 close to each other @ #2

simple analysis (overall % X Top 50 % X Top 101 % / SOS) without considering # of Top 50 games played, shows that Team 1 is well ahead of rest, 3 & 5 are close, followed by Team 2, 6 & 4 in that order.

OVERALL</SPAN> vs TOP 50</SPAN> vs TOP 101+</SPAN> SOS</SPAN> SCORE </SPAN>
TEAM</SPAN>W</SPAN>L</SPAN>%</SPAN> W</SPAN>L</SPAN>%</SPAN> W</SPAN>L</SPAN>%</SPAN>
1</SPAN>33</SPAN>10</SPAN>0.767</SPAN> 13</SPAN>8</SPAN>0.619</SPAN> 18</SPAN>0</SPAN>1.000</SPAN> 21</SPAN> 0.023</SPAN>
2</SPAN>31</SPAN>8</SPAN>0.795</SPAN> 5</SPAN>5</SPAN>0.500</SPAN> 17</SPAN>2</SPAN>0.895</SPAN> 30</SPAN> 0.012</SPAN>
3</SPAN>32</SPAN>9</SPAN>0.780</SPAN> 10</SPAN>9</SPAN>0.526</SPAN> 15</SPAN>0</SPAN>1.000</SPAN> 27</SPAN> 0.015</SPAN>
4</SPAN>30</SPAN>10</SPAN>0.750</SPAN> 7</SPAN>9</SPAN>0.438</SPAN> 17</SPAN>1</SPAN>0.944</SPAN> 33</SPAN> 0.009</SPAN>
5</SPAN>33</SPAN>10</SPAN>0.767</SPAN> 13</SPAN>6</SPAN>0.684</SPAN> 14</SPAN>1</SPAN>0.933</SPAN> 35</SPAN> 0.014</SPAN>
6</SPAN>31</SPAN>11</SPAN>0.738</SPAN> 8</SPAN>4</SPAN>0.667</SPAN> 15</SPAN>3</SPAN>0.833</SPAN> 43</SPAN> 0.010</SPAN>

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