More wool on Renardo Sidney.
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and he is as fluid a player as I have ever seen. He could easily be a double double player and should be. However he also can turn it up another level ala Dontae Jones and carry this team a long way. The key this year is going to be someone to take the leadership role.
..running Magic Johnson smack in his behalf.
I prefer the "woe is us" Bear Bryant assessment.
You are less likey to get smacked in the face by reality.
I prefer the "woe is us" Bear Bryant assessment.
You are less likey to get smacked in the face by reality.
I agree Ronny, he's setting us up for disappointment. A lot oftalented players haven't been as dominant in college as their skill set would indicate that they should've been. Marvin Williams at UNC, OJ Mayo, Brandan Wright at UNC... a lot of high NBA picks and players that went on to be good in the NBA (Gerald Wallace at Bama) were not dominant in college. I think since we've never had a player of this talent level, our fans are going to expect him to score 25-30 a night, and it probably won't work out that way.
Sometimes players of that skill level try to play w/ too much finesse, and I think that makes them be less effective than guys that just try to "out-physical" you like Roberts and Austin did, and Blake Griffin at OU.
Although Stans gets criticized for not developing an all around game for players like Austin and Roberts, I think we were better off as a team b/c of that. Roberts and Austin were a lot more effective in college by using their strength to get the ball as low as possible and either go up strong or draw fouls than they would've been mixing in a face up game from 10-12 ft from the basket, which they would've been inconsistent in doing.
I think we'd be more effective this year and maximize Sidney's touches more if he plays more like Demarcus Cousins than him trying to mix in a finesse game. If he takes 10 jumpers from 12-20 feet away, he might still shoot 50%, but if he goes down low more often he might shoot over 60% and get to the line twice as much
Sometimes players of that skill level try to play w/ too much finesse, and I think that makes them be less effective than guys that just try to "out-physical" you like Roberts and Austin did, and Blake Griffin at OU.
Although Stans gets criticized for not developing an all around game for players like Austin and Roberts, I think we were better off as a team b/c of that. Roberts and Austin were a lot more effective in college by using their strength to get the ball as low as possible and either go up strong or draw fouls than they would've been mixing in a face up game from 10-12 ft from the basket, which they would've been inconsistent in doing.
I think we'd be more effective this year and maximize Sidney's touches more if he plays more like Demarcus Cousins than him trying to mix in a finesse game. If he takes 10 jumpers from 12-20 feet away, he might still shoot 50%, but if he goes down low more often he might shoot over 60% and get to the line twice as much
but Sidney is as good of a college player (talent and ability) as there has been in the game in the last 4-5 years. He is a potential Durant type of player. Will he average 30 in the NBA? I don't know, but he is ridiculous and no one needs to think this is another Vernon Goodridge flop. He is unreal.
Although he'll be a more talented player and a better NBA player than anyone we've ever had, I still think that he'll be less productive as a COLLEGE player this year than Austin and Roberts were. I think we'd go further as a team w/ those two guys on this team than w/ Sidney
Players that put up stats like Durant did in college are rare, but even with Durant, Texas still finished 3rd in the Big 12 and lost in the 2nd rd of the NCAA's. They had better overall teams in other years</p>
Players that put up stats like Durant did in college are rare, but even with Durant, Texas still finished 3rd in the Big 12 and lost in the 2nd rd of the NCAA's. They had better overall teams in other years</p>
For once I agree with what Stans is preaching. I can't wait to see the big boy and his cross-over dribble and either a pull-up three or taking it to the rim for a thunderous dunk. Now if we can just get Bost eligible, so Sidney doesn't have to run the point.
Those three were all so good that they left after one year. Brandon Wright won ACC freshman on the year then jetted, Marvin averaged 11 and 7 on a championship team, and Mayo dropped over 20 points a game.<div>
</div><div>If Sidney can even come close to any of these accomplishments, I'd be ecstatic. Imagine just how dominant they could have been with experience!</div>
</div><div>If Sidney can even come close to any of these accomplishments, I'd be ecstatic. Imagine just how dominant they could have been with experience!</div>
That's kind of my point, I only expect Sidney to stay one year b/c he's so talented... And in his one year, I don't think he'll be as effective a college playeras the experienced Austin and Roberts were in their jr/sr years
Mayo averaged 20, but they lost in the 1st rd of the NCAA's, and Durant lost in the 2nd rd. I think Sidney being hyped so much will create expectations for this team to make a deep run in the NCAA's or bust, whereas most of the time, having a top 10 pick doesn't equal a Sweet 16 run (except for Carmelo).I can just hear our fans now, "if we can't get there w/ Sidney, we never will," when in fact we'd have a better chance w/ a guy like Roberts who is a great college player, but not good enough to leave early for the NBA, forcing him to stay in college 3-4 years
Mayo averaged 20, but they lost in the 1st rd of the NCAA's, and Durant lost in the 2nd rd. I think Sidney being hyped so much will create expectations for this team to make a deep run in the NCAA's or bust, whereas most of the time, having a top 10 pick doesn't equal a Sweet 16 run (except for Carmelo).I can just hear our fans now, "if we can't get there w/ Sidney, we never will," when in fact we'd have a better chance w/ a guy like Roberts who is a great college player, but not good enough to leave early for the NBA, forcing him to stay in college 3-4 years
So you are saying a team with a high 2nd round draft pick who was a McD AA(Austin) and a 2nd round draft pick who managed to average a double double for his 4 year college career and ended up being 3rd IN THE NATION for player of the year(Roberts) would make this a better team than if it instead just had Sidney?whatever said:
Wow, way to go out on a limb. I would take those 2 players on the team 10 times out of 10 versus having Sidney.
Stansbury is just calling it like it is. I obviously haven't seen Sidney play in a college game, so I don't know exactly how effective he will be, but the only questions around him in high school were motivation and weight. His talent was always considered superior to everyone in his class, including DeMarcus Cousins.<div>
</div><div>The bottom line is that we've never had a player with his ability before. Would I rather have Lawrence Roberts as a junior? Maybe, but maybe not. Would I rather have Mario Austin as a junior? Probably not. Kevin Durant's Texas team didn't do as well as some others, but not because of him. They were incredibly young that year and were going through a major talent upheaval. He single-handedly carried them and was the best player in the country. You wouldn't take that over Mario Austin? You're confusing team success with individual ability. You can't compare two individuals based on their respective team success alone, that's ridiculous. If you do, the I guess Jordan Farmar is a better NBA player than LeBron. Sure, LeBron puts up good stats, but Farmar's team won a title.</div>
</div><div>The bottom line is that we've never had a player with his ability before. Would I rather have Lawrence Roberts as a junior? Maybe, but maybe not. Would I rather have Mario Austin as a junior? Probably not. Kevin Durant's Texas team didn't do as well as some others, but not because of him. They were incredibly young that year and were going through a major talent upheaval. He single-handedly carried them and was the best player in the country. You wouldn't take that over Mario Austin? You're confusing team success with individual ability. You can't compare two individuals based on their respective team success alone, that's ridiculous. If you do, the I guess Jordan Farmar is a better NBA player than LeBron. Sure, LeBron puts up good stats, but Farmar's team won a title.</div>