MR isn't going to be fired

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and he shouldn't be...period. IMHO he should start sitting players who don't give maximum effort, rotating players to see what he has for future years and recruit like there is no tomorrow.

I'll give MR this year to "cut the cancer "out of the team/locker room, but there will be no hall pass if things aren't drastically better in 2016.
 

jflores

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I really hope he dumps read.

I don't see MR or SE going anywhere for another year
 

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So a coach who has consistently had undisciplined teams is supposed to clean up the locker room?

I'm not some big supporter of Riley and I'm not going to dig for every excuse I can possibly find to put him in to a better light when that is just wishful thinking but I am curious to see how he does in year two. I do think the man that hired him deserves to be shown the door though.
 

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I want the Riledawg to succeed and first step is firing defensive coaches. If he keeps everyone after this year and we do the same crap next year I will want him gone.
 
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I want the Riledawg to succeed and first step is firing defensive coaches. If he keeps everyone after this year and we do the same crap next year I will want him gone.

If he keeps the same defensive staff next year I don't see us improving enough to be bowl eligible.
 
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If he keeps the same defensive staff next year I don't see us improving enough to be bowl eligible.
That's what I see as well. What killed our last 2 staffs is the inability to make necessary changes. I hope Riley is a big enough man to cut his friends loose
 
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and he shouldn't be...period. IMHO he should start sitting players who don't give maximum effort, rotating players to see what he has for future years and recruit like there is no tomorrow.

I'll give MR this year to "cut the cancer "out of the team/locker room, but there will be no hall pass if things aren't drastically better in 2016.

This. I'm not happy with losses, but feel we need to give MR time to build his own team. If anyone doesn't buy in then on to starting new ones.
 
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This was always going to be a 4-5 year rebuilding project. Patience is key to this situation. Going to be a rough few years but dividends and wins will come by year 3/4
 
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Riley is not getting rid of Banker. He'll be here as long as Riley is and the same goes for Langs..
 

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This was always going to be a 4-5 year rebuilding project. Patience is key to this situation. Going to be a rough few years but dividends and wins will come by year 3/4

Maybe we should have gone after a younger, more innovative coach then because in 4-5 years Riley will be that much older. Nebraska didn't hire a guy that they'll get 20 years out of if he's successful.
 

Redscarlet

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Riley is not getting rid of Banker. He'll be here as long as Riley is and the same goes for Langs..

If he is not do you think or see Nebraska turning the corner the next year or two?

If he doesn't this is Callahan II.
 

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This was always going to be a 4-5 year rebuilding project. Patience is key to this situation. Going to be a rough few years but dividends and wins will come by year 3/4
JMHO but 4-5 more yrs of this garbage is way more than I can endure. Maybe others are more patient, but if we see another 3-9 yr in 2016 - I'd show them the door, including Eichorst.
 

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JMHO but 4-5 more yrs of this garbage is way more than I can endure. Maybe others are more patient, but if we see another 3-9 yr in 2016 - I'd show them the door, including Eichorst.
Zero chance this staff is still around in 2017 if they go back to back 3-9 seasons here. Sooner or later "just keep coaching" must show on the field.
 

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Along with Read there a couple of others not getting it done either.

Do you care to name names? I think cav takes a lot of heat but he seems to have a strong background.

Don't hear much about Hughes and Stewart probably deserves some criticism
 

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That's what I see as well. What killed our last 2 staffs is the inability to make necessary changes. I hope Riley is a big enough man to cut his friends loose
he never did at Oregon state. people at Oregon state were fine with riley just wanted to see some changes and banker fired and he wouldn't do it
 

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JMHO but 4-5 more yrs of this garbage is way more than I can endure. Maybe others are more patient, but if we see another 3-9 yr in 2016 - I'd show them the door, including Eichorst.

I don't think the staff goes on four years irrespective of results. They will for sure receive one more year just based on the personalities in place but I think year two they have to start showing something to convince the new powers that be that they need to go to bat for them in year three and four for the fan base
 

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he never did at Oregon state. people at Oregon state were fine with riley just wanted to see some changes and banker fired and he wouldn't do it

Oregon state is a different place though. Riley does know that expectations here are different and if read isn't getting it done he'll be called to carpet over it. At OSU he could pretty well string the fan base along because the permissiveness of the fan base.

That doesn't mean he'll toss them overboard at NU he may choose to go down with his guys if that's how he wants to chance it.
 

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This was always going to be a 4-5 year rebuilding project. Patience is key to this situation. Going to be a rough few years but dividends and wins will come by year 3/4
So does full social security for MR. By hiring a guy this old we don't have 4-5 years to rebuild unless the coach in waiting is already on staff.
 

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and he shouldn't be...period. IMHO he should start sitting players who don't give maximum effort, rotating players to see what he has for future years and recruit like there is no tomorrow.

I'll give MR this year to "cut the cancer "out of the team/locker room, but there will be no hall pass if things aren't drastically better in 2016.
I really don't know if MR is going to do anything here. One thing I think that is becoming apparently clear is there are players on this team that don't give a ****. Players that were pissed, and still are pissed that Bo is gone. Players that are half assing it. Players who are showing little pride for the team, program, most importantly themselves. All because their cult leader was fired.
Unfortunately it is hard to know which players these guys are. Only MR and the coaching staff know for sure. They are the ones in the locker room and at practice day in and day out. It is their jobs as coaches to determine these players and deal with it. If you have guys not giving 100% or not wanting to be apart of this team, they need to be kicked off the team. If that mean we have to play 2nd and 3rd string guys to field a team. SO BE IT! We don't need them and don't want them.
Do you know why the teams of the 90s were so good? They all gave 110%, every single play. They played with pride they played as a team. Do you think we had the most talented players, nope. Many were nebraska walk on guys. This team now lacks so much of that pride it isn't even funny. Full result of participation trophy generation at work at Nebraska. They have been use to getting whatever they want, without ever having to work for it, having to earn it.
If Riley can't fix these players as a coach then he need to be replaced too. This has been going on to long at Nebraska. It is time to go back to our roots!
 
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So does full social security for MR. By hiring a guy this old we don't have 4-5 years to rebuild unless the coach in waiting is already on staff.
So would you hire NIck Saban right now? How about Bill Snyder 12+ years ago? How about Tom Osborne a dozen of more years ago? They would all be or have been the same age roughly as Mike Riley now.
 

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JMHO but 4-5 more yrs of this garbage is way more than I can endure. Maybe others are more patient, but if we see another 3-9 yr in 2016 - I'd show them the door, including Eichorst.
No question about it. 2016 needs to see major improvement. SE should be gotten rid of before the next hire takes place. AKA end of this year.
 

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So would you hire NIck Saban right now? How about Bill Snyder 12+ years ago? How about Tom Osborne a dozen of more years ago? They would all be or have been the same age roughly as Mike Riley now.

Those guys had actually won something in their careers before they turned 62.
 

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So would you hire NIck Saban right now? How about Bill Snyder 12+ years ago? How about Tom Osborne a dozen of more years ago? They would all be or have been the same age roughly as Mike Riley now.
Likely wouldn't be much of a "rebuild" under those coaches. Under Riley thus far it looks like a major rebuild with serious question marks on the guy doing the building.
 

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So would you hire NIck Saban right now? How about Bill Snyder 12+ years ago? How about Tom Osborne a dozen of more years ago? They would all be or have been the same age roughly as Mike Riley now.
Are we still comparing MR to Saban TO and Bill? Were talking about some very very different people here.
 

Ewooc

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This. I'm not happy with losses, but feel we need to give MR time to build his own team. If anyone doesn't buy in then on to starting new ones.
Agree to an extent, but as we all know the best predictor of future events is past events.

Cally 04-" we just need to let him get his guys in here and he will succeed. 08 Fired after lack of results
BO 08- "we just need to let him get his guys in here and he will succeed. 14 Fired after lack of results
MR 14- "we just need to let him get his guys in here and he will succeed. To be determined......

So I do understand why people are calling to end this now and save another 7-10 years of "rebuild" years
 

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I really don't know if MR is going to do anything here. One thing I think that is becoming apparently clear is there are players on this team that don't give a ****. Players that were pissed, and still are pissed that Bo is gone. Players that are half assing it. Players who are showing little pride for the team, program, most importantly themselves. All because their cult leader was fired.
Unfortunately it is hard to know which players these guys are. Only MR and the coaching staff know for sure. They are the ones in the locker room and at practice day in and day out. It is their jobs as coaches to determine these players and deal with it. If you have guys not giving 100% or not wanting to be apart of this team, they need to be kicked off the team. If that mean we have to play 2nd and 3rd string guys to field a team. SO BE IT! We don't need them and don't want them.
Do you know why the teams of the 90s were so good? They all gave 110%, every single play. They played with pride they played as a team. Do you think we had the most talented players, nope. Many were nebraska walk on guys. This team now lacks so much of that pride it isn't even funny. Full result of participation trophy generation at work at Nebraska. They have been use to getting whatever they want, without ever having to work for it, having to earn it.
If Riley can't fix these players as a coach then he need to be replaced too. This has been going on to long at Nebraska. It is time to go back to our roots!
What's ironic about the situation is that as a percentage of guys on the field we might have more walk on Nebraska kids than just about any point in our history.

Typically we've had our fair share of Nebraska kids in the top 22 but the bulk of those kids were scholarship players from a Metro that had much deeper talent than it has the last ten years.

If we need more Nebraska flavor it needs to be quality. Six more Daniel Davies isn't going to get it done
 
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Do you care to name names? I think cav takes a lot of heat but he seems to have a strong background.

Don't hear much about Hughes and Stewart probably deserves some criticism

Not impressed with Cav, Banker, Davis or Stewart at all. Bray and Hughes have been impressive.
 

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Not impressed with Cav, Banker, Davis or Stewart at all. Bray and Hughes have been impressive.
Do you think if Stewart was replaced Banker would look better? Or do we need to abandon Cover 4 with a new DC?

I'm still on the fence about cav but I'd have no problems changing out Davis and Stewart
 

rrthusker

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Do you think if Stewart was replaced Banker would look better? Or do we need to abandon Cover 4 with a new DC?

I'm still on the fence about cav but I'd have no problems changing out Davis and Stewart

JMO but Banker just isn`t a great DC and Stewart hasn`t shown me anything at all. I`d always go with cover 2 but that`s just me.