MS 37 Fremd 14
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That's a bit harsh...they were falling asleep from that riveting Fremd Offensive game plan (emphasis on the offensive part):
Part one: run
Part two: run
Part three: Pass deep twice and connect on both
Part four: repeat parts 1 & 2 and don't repeat part 3
*bonus go for it on 4th & 2 at your own 25 down by 2 scores...but don't go for it on 4th & 3 down by 3 scores
Yeah it wasn't GBW or LWE level play but they can't all be. I'll take an 'ugly' 37-14 MS win where all the kids on both sides finish the game healthy.
Ain't no 'style points' section in the standings.
Maybe you could save your indignant harrumph for an 'uninspired' loss
Part one: run
Part two: run
Part three: Pass deep twice and connect on both
Part four: repeat parts 1 & 2 and don't repeat part 3
*bonus go for it on 4th & 2 at your own 25 down by 2 scores...but don't go for it on 4th & 3 down by 3 scores
Yeah it wasn't GBW or LWE level play but they can't all be. I'll take an 'ugly' 37-14 MS win where all the kids on both sides finish the game healthy.
Ain't no 'style points' section in the standings.
Maybe you could save your indignant harrumph for an 'uninspired' loss
Knocking your own team for a win that didn't meet your subjective standards on what constitutes 'good'
Jesus...you're like a dog with a bone. Ok If you're going to stay in Great Santini mode, I'll say Fotis got back on track and ripped some long runs. Likewise WRs had some big plays downfield.
It definitely wasn't playoff caliber play...but it's also game #3. Maybe the first two games spoiled us a bit. They will find the groove
Back in 2011, the greatest year in ihsa history, we lost a helluva game to LWE in week 6 I think. The following week we played a decent to good Sandburg team and we looked awful. Final score was 28-7, but the game was ugly. What I say this to say is it isn't unusual to have a let down after a big emotional game. Also after playing LWE sometimes you have to heal up.
That's why I say we don't even show up for week 9 and just go into the playoffs at 8-1.
That's why I say we don't even show up for week 9 and just go into the playoffs at 8-1.
There is nothing wrong with acknowledging "suck" when it is evident.
"My team" seemed disinterested in their 33-0 shutout and I've named them on another board.
"My team" seemed disinterested in their 33-0 shutout and I've named them on another board.
I'm with MS4. I was glad to see we won, but we definitely weren't sharp. We had some nice plays for sure, but it wasn't the caliber of play we are capable of. I thought our defensive play sporadic.
If anyone has earned the right to be critical, it would be MS4. Sometimes you have to take the rose colored glasses off and call it straight, and he was spot on in his assessment
If anyone has earned the right to be critical, it would be MS4. Sometimes you have to take the rose colored glasses off and call it straight, and he was spot on in his assessment
"...earned the right"?
To what? An opinion? I believe we all have earned that right. Does he have some kind of trump card that qualifies his opinion as fact on what constitutes good play? Do you? Is it time served? Standing in the community? Football experience? Curious to know what makes one subjective opinion any more or less valid than another. FACT: THEY DECISIVELY WON A GAME THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO WIN.
Imagine for a moment that your boss employed this type of subjective criteria when evaluating your job performance: "Well you tripled your sales numbers over last quarter...but I know you're CAPABLE of so much more and your enthusiasm on Monday mornings has been sporadic...so pack up your ****"
You guys can't seems to decide if you're going to sniff the jock, drink the kool aid...or eat the hater-tots. Also disappointed to see the standard message board BS exemplified with the way the 'core' group (and adoring wannabes) rush to each other's defense even when there's no attack...just differing opinion. Silly rabbits...cliques are for kids.
I would suggest you stand and be counted. All of if us know who each of us are. Win lose or draw, we all agree that while we may agree or disagree, we can accept a differing opinion. Including the coaches.
You on the other hand believe you have that answers to it all, so if th believe you do in fact have the keys to success.... at least have the stones to reveal yourself to the rest of us who have a vested interest, iE, someone who plays.
Otherwise, your just a blow *** pissing people off on this board with virtually no credibility except for a big mouth and a hollow sack.
Clearly you don't know the people you are addressing, because if you did, you would know MS4 is one of the most respected people on this board, as well as EVERY kid that has played at MS for the last 30 yrs. You on the other hand show up with nothing more than a big mouth with no stones.
Not only do the kids, but do the coaches know who we are... if your not willing to stand and be counted...
Well then... you don't matter. So instead of being a faceless puss... either get behind what is right, or shut your mouth. Either way... I suspect you will stick with anonymity.
If you can't be real... be gone. We nor our program have no use for you. Something tells me your kid grew up with the 10th place ribbon and you celebrated.
Trust me, I never wish to defend Fremd, but they did lose their first and second strings QBs and running backs in the first two games. They started a sophomore QB and converted a DB to running back for the game; against Maine South. The results are pretty much what you'd expect knowing that.
Wow...seems I really poked the bear (or at least the bear's hype man). As much as I do enjoy a spirited debate, I will try to keep this brief to mitigate the wrath of the MS Nation (of which I am still one)...
First and foremost it has nothing to do with disrespect (or respect). A forum is a place for commentary/opinion and the best part is...it's self regulating. You have a take, I have a different take, we then try to articulate our points and either end in agreement or disagreement...but the righteous indignation about who's qualified to offer said take is shortsighted and contrary to the whole point of this type of thing. All are equal [insert 'opinions are like a$$holes' cliche here] and that's what keeps it spinning. You say you respect differing opinion, but all it took was a question to but you on tilt. If you want an amen chorus you should probably start a new board (I'd suggest IHSAcirclejerk.com if that's still available) where all agree with their agreements on that which they are in complete agreement...and you must submit your resume and qualifications to the Holy Order of Football before posting. YAWN
As for the 'stand and be counted'/get behind what's right screed...
Take a step back, a deep breath and possibly pop a zoloft.
The funny thing is that we know each other Oke and have been on friendly terms (and I hope we can continue to be). I just sometimes have [gasp] a alternate view of things than you and some others do from time to time. Shouldn't be cause for puffy chested indignation and/or aspersions on my reproductive organs be they hollow or 'filled' (BTW ewww...and what's with all the testicle references...fetish much?)
As for the close of your diatribe trotting out the ol' 'Our program' and 'your kid probably sucks' tropes are hack/bush league moves. C'mon Oke you're better than that! Get creative!
I'm very cool with spirited debate, open hostility...eh but ok in small amounts. Veiled threats? Nah. Not very cool with that. So as for me being faceless...let's play a quick game and see if you can figure it out. Should be easy. Let's give it 4 days and you can private message me if you crack the case, Okie Sherlock. Otherwise, I'll be happy to come find you at the Palatine game and "be counted" and thus no longer faceless. You then will have the option to escalate the matter or be an adult and maybe we can share a laugh about it (or not). I'm cool with it either way. Your call amigo. In the immortal words of Ice Cube.."Check yo' self before you wreck yo' self"
So we laughed. We cried. We learned a little about ourselves and each other. Phew! I feel better...how 'bout you?
#failedatbeingbrief
Sorry...one more thing. Anyone else find it deliciously ironic that I incurred all of that FNL style wrath/had loyalty (and manhood) called into question for defending & supporting the recent MS win??
Roll the tape and you can clearly see that all of my meager postings have been nothing but fully supportive of the Program (be it his, yours or 'ours') and ALWAYS 100% supporting the kids that play in it.
Roll the tape and you can clearly see that all of my meager postings have been nothing but fully supportive of the Program (be it his, yours or 'ours') and ALWAYS 100% supporting the kids that play in it.
And to think week two was a chant of the LWE students. Glad he is yours PRokie. Go Hawks.
LWE is 3-2 all time vs. MS. Interesting...neither team has ever won at home in the battles.
MS4Ever can probably remember each snap.
LWE is 3-2 all time vs. MS. Interesting...neither team has ever won at home in the battles.
MS4Ever can probably remember each snap.
And for the record, you've got it reversed. Okie's all mine. Anytime someone feels compelled to put down the small batch (make your own joke) and put stubby fingers to keys at 3:15 AM on a Saturday night to post a misplaced manifesto...it's a sure sign that someone else is in his head. Living up there rent free (maybe yours too).
#friendsdontletfriendsforumpostdrunk
#Frankfortstillsucks
You see 6, I wrote that while walking home from a fundraiser I'm pretty sure you didn't attend, nor would you.
Interesting topic was exactly how spot on MS4 was in his assessment from the coaches themselves. While they did not mention this forum, their perspectives were EXACTLY the same as his.
Crazy MS4!!!! You wacky harsh guy!
As you may know...
I'm a simple guy, not to hard to outwit. I don't hide who I am, and I'm honest enough with myself to own my ridiculousness. Next year I'll still be going to the games, fundraisers, etc...just like I have for the last 17 yrs.
I still won't sugar coat a an uninspired performance, and my guess is you will be gone just as fast as you showed up.
But your supportive, I'll give you that!
Interesting topic was exactly how spot on MS4 was in his assessment from the coaches themselves. While they did not mention this forum, their perspectives were EXACTLY the same as his.
Crazy MS4!!!! You wacky harsh guy!
As you may know...
I'm a simple guy, not to hard to outwit. I don't hide who I am, and I'm honest enough with myself to own my ridiculousness. Next year I'll still be going to the games, fundraisers, etc...just like I have for the last 17 yrs.
I still won't sugar coat a an uninspired performance, and my guess is you will be gone just as fast as you showed up.
But your supportive, I'll give you that!
#truth
Okie, I sincerely respect your support for the program, I just wish you could save a little respect for those that show their support differently than you.
True, I didn't attend the most recent fundraiser and if I'm being completely candid, I probably wouldn't. There are so many that I must've lost track of which one that was. If only we lived in an affluent community that had a top 20 median income level and very high property tax base for the school to draw from...oh wait. But I digress. That's another topic sure to ruffle some Hawk feathers.
Your last post had the glimmer of the irascible, self effacing & oddly likable Okie that we all know and...well, tolerate. HOWEVER you just couldn't resist the urge to get snarky and trot out your Superfan Scorecard. So I gotta call you out.
The 'time served' thing just doesn't fly. Odd that you've been following and supporting high school football since your oldest was still in diapers...but ok...to each his own. Like many parents, I didn't come to MS games until my kid, his friends (and the kids I coached) were playing in them because I have a connection and want to show my support to those kids. That's who I'm rooting for. While I respect the coaches and what they've done, and admire the proud tradition of MS Athletics, neither are necessarily what puts my *** in a seat on Friday nights. It's watching my kid go balls out on every play and watching his friends do the same. Them laying it on the line in practice and in games is inspiring and nerve wracking and special and pure.
I'm not inspired by people (regardless of position or pedigree) looking down their noses at a top 5 team and sneering at the level of effort. Agreed that it's for the coaches to do and they do just fine. They don't need any help from parents or fans publicly calling out lack of effort and/or kicking the team's *** when necessary.
Also not inspired by a seemingly endless stream of boozy fundraisers where a lot of the conversation is either cloyingly self congratulatory or rambling, paint by the numbers rhetoric about what constitutes true 'support'. Now if they gave the money you helped raise on Saturday to Texas or Florida...that would be inspiring. I'm sure MS can find another way to cover the cost of banquet halls and party busses for awhile
So yeah...you're right about one thing: In 2018 I'm probably off the MS football carousel. Hopefully, if my son is fortunate enough (and chooses) to play at the next level...I'll be rooting for him there, wherever that may be. I'd hope for nothing less for your son Okie, as well as many other deserving kids currently in the program.
As for next year...I'll have to find a MS Girls Swimming forum to lurk around in. Anyone have any suggestions? It may take me a year to find one
*Apologies to MS4. I still don't really agree with your initial premise...but I totally hijacked this thread (with a little help). Next time I'll just start my own.
**I now leave it my esteemed colleague from the Great state of Oklahoma to have the last word, declare total victory and claim Moral High ground. Then hopefully we can close this damn thing out before everyone else dies of boredom.
I love that kid! We talk college almost everyday. Hope he can get on a team and play somewhere.
Agreed...so even if you disagree with his dad, don't hold it against him.
And for the record I showed him your pic from the other post and said "who is this guy?" And he smiled real wide and said "that's my guy _...he's awesome!"
So you're clearly doing right by those kids and that's what matters most. I appreciate your effort. (but still reserve the right to disagree with you!)
#prokiestillsucks
And for the record I showed him your pic from the other post and said "who is this guy?" And he smiled real wide and said "that's my guy _...he's awesome!"
So you're clearly doing right by those kids and that's what matters most. I appreciate your effort. (but still reserve the right to disagree with you!)
#prokiestillsucks
Never would I hold it against him. Let's get after Palatine this week!
#lovemesomeprokielol