MState Master Plans
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To me it is still interesting that they were considering the bowling in of the stadium way back then. </p>
but apparently they already had the idea to cut out the roads that went through campus. the road that went by lee hall is taken out in the picture, and the entrance from 12 to malfunction junction (the old one) is not there. i miss the old road that went by lee hall, and coming onto campus after going under the overpass of 12, but i guess maybe it's better for traffic flow/aesthetics/whatever.
Probably, it has never been "bowled" in because of the type expansions we had. The first, in the mid 80s, included adding the chairbacks and new press box. It made sense to go ahead and build the west upper deck while the contractors and equipment were on campus building the chairbacks and press box. However, I guess they could have went ahead and enclosed the endzone during that expansion. That expansion did include adding a section on each end of the eastside.
The second, east side expansion, was the same scenario. We were adding supports for the club level and sky boxes. Why not just continue to go up while the contractor and equipment is there. But there again, we did add the bleachers in the endzone about that time. State could have went ahead and put in, at the very least, a lower structure.
But I think State did the most effecient and cost effective thing at the time. Also, I am sure someone, with much more engineering knowledge than I, could explain the advantage to adding decks, skyboxes, and etc. all at one time rather than a section at a time 10 years apart. </p>
The second, east side expansion, was the same scenario. We were adding supports for the club level and sky boxes. Why not just continue to go up while the contractor and equipment is there. But there again, we did add the bleachers in the endzone about that time. State could have went ahead and put in, at the very least, a lower structure.
But I think State did the most effecient and cost effective thing at the time. Also, I am sure someone, with much more engineering knowledge than I, could explain the advantage to adding decks, skyboxes, and etc. all at one time rather than a section at a time 10 years apart. </p>
Having been to Neyland and DWS, I doubt that is accurate. The lower deck at Neyland goes up about 80 rows. Also, I think their upper deck has more rows than ours. Having sat in both, you seem to be much higher at Neyland.
But you have to love the way Jackie could spin things.
But you have to love the way Jackie could spin things.
Here are the rest of the ones that I have. I wish that the b/w one was more legible. It gives more detailed info about the original master plan. One of you guys that work or live on campus could go by the building and take a better pic if you wanted.
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But, this page doesn't show our Univeristy...someone who knows how to post on Wiki should change that.
<font color="#810081">Where are we?
</font>Edit: Actually, wouldn't it be more accurate to say that the firm developed a prototypcial land grant institution plan, rather than to say they did almost all the land grant institutions? Also, I picked up the Olmsted from the picture in this thread. Wiki says the Olmsted firm was out of business by the time this plan was designed. What's with that? An opportunistic firm grabbing the name?
<font color="#810081">Where are we?
</font>Edit: Actually, wouldn't it be more accurate to say that the firm developed a prototypcial land grant institution plan, rather than to say they did almost all the land grant institutions? Also, I picked up the Olmsted from the picture in this thread. Wiki says the Olmsted firm was out of business by the time this plan was designed. What's with that? An opportunistic firm grabbing the name?
because the Olmstead brothers were dead long before 1980. More likely, someone from the Olmstead school of campus design took the name, but has very little connection to the Olmstead family.
I think someone would have mentioned it in my landscape architecture history class had FLO or his sons planned MSU's campus.
I think someone would have mentioned it in my landscape architecture history class had FLO or his sons planned MSU's campus.
that is a redoux of a much older plan, the original plan for campus done by the Olmsted office. I do not know why they used the Olmsted name on the 1981 plan, unless they were just paying homage to the original planners.
you should see how bad graduating LA's graphics are nowadays. These kids can't hand-draw their way out of a paper bag, and their Sketch Up skills aren't all that either.
We had some pretty good graphics all around when I was there. We did hand drawing and just started AutoCadd. I always knew it would hurt the program when they changed it from a 5-year to a 4-year degree.
The art of hand drawing is almost gone except for sketching.
AutoCadd, Land-FX, Photoshop, Sketch-up and M-Color have changed the pace of design/production <font face="Calibri">considerably.</font>
The art of hand drawing is almost gone except for sketching.
AutoCadd, Land-FX, Photoshop, Sketch-up and M-Color have changed the pace of design/production <font face="Calibri">considerably.</font>
newfangled handheld calculating machines have ruined the finance department. Nobody knows how to hand calculate 100 year cash flows anymore. It's a damned shame, these modern calculating machines.
However in a DESIGN profession like architecture or landscape architecture you can't convey ideas quickly without the ability to hand draw. And chances are, if your hand-drawings look like ****, your Photoshop/Sketchup presentation drawings look like **** as well.
Is there anyone you could just call to see if our campus had a true Olmsted plan? It would be good to know although I didn't even know who Olmsted was until this thread informed me of it.
Also - When was the hump built? If that is it on 108 then it was existing. Has the hump been rennovated at all since it was built??
Also - When was the hump built? If that is it on 108 then it was existing. Has the hump been rennovated at all since it was built??
Olmsted brothers (FLO's sons) did do the original plan.
EDIT: Here's your "official" answer: http://msuinfo.ur.msstate.edu/campusplan/planhistory.html
More info on FLO the elder:
http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/ngm/0503/feature2/
EDIT: Here's your "official" answer: http://msuinfo.ur.msstate.edu/campusplan/planhistory.html
More info on FLO the elder:
http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/ngm/0503/feature2/