MSU basketball

[madisonmd]

Word is leaking out that Travis daniels will not make his grades. Great class, only one signee can contribute!

 

[msstate7]

Speaking of the one contributer, will ij be ready to be our pg this year?

 

[Lawdawg.sixpack]

Lest ye forget DeRunnya

 

[esplanade91]

Lest ye forget DeRunnya

C'mon man, he's not going to play this season. If he does he still won't be able to practice until December/January.

 

[msstate7]

C'mon man, he's not going to play this season. If he does he still won't be able to practice until December/January.

If we're in the same shape we were last dec/jan, he could get plenty of pt. Hopefully this isn't the case

 

[Irondawg]

If this is true it's strike 1 in recruiting for Ray. I was a little skeptical of signing him in the first place, but if he was at all iffy on grades you had to spend some time either replacing him or having a backup plan. Who knows though - maybe he was in good shape and just completely flaked out the last semester.

 

[msstate7]

If this is true it's strike 1 in recruiting for Ray. I was a little skeptical of signing him in the first place, but if he was at all iffy on grades you had to spend some time either replacing him or having a backup plan. Who knows though - maybe he was in good shape and just completely flaked out the last semester.

Well at least we have enough scholarships for all our commitments now. Don't we only lose 2 seniors this season and have 3 commitments?

 

[DAWG61]

​Borchert, Steele, Lewis

 

[msstate7]

​Borchert, Steele, Lewis

Yep. Missed one. Well hopefully we can find another or just save it for next season

 

[studentdawg87]

MadisonMD has 24 posts, and a significant portion of them are bashing Rick Ray. This may turn out to be true, but it is equally as likely madisonmd is just continuing to push his agenda.

 

[DAWG61]

It's a legit point if Ray is already down to 1 of his 3 incoming freshman. Jacoby Davis, Trivante Bloodman, Colin Borchert, Andre Applewhite, I.J. Ready, Fallou Ndyoe and Travis Daniels are Ray's players. Sword, Thomas and Ware are Bury's. Stan's 3 players are destroying Ray's seven.

I've been encouraged by Ray lately with his ability to fill out the roster so quickly and his brilliant idea of adding two quality basketball players who are on football scholarships thus essentially increasing his bench from 8 to 10 players.

But I'll call a spade a spade and Ray's 2013 class is terrible. Already.

 

[msstate7]

So ready and ndoye are terrible already? That's pretty quick evaluation

 

[DAWG61]

I'm not talking about the quality of the players...

I'm saying to have only one of the 3 able to play for MSU for the 2013-14 season is terrible.

 

[msstate7]

I'm saying to have only one of the 3 able to play for MSU for the 2013-14 season is terrible.

No argument then

 

[KurtRambis4]

I'm

not going to sit here and go check his entire posting history, but I believe he's brought some solid info before regarding recruits. I could be mistaken.

 

[Shmuley]

I learned my lesson about having patience with the new guy where, at the time of hiring, the program was so far in the crapper that roto rooter couldn't fix it. I'm off the Ray bash wagon for at least one more round of recruiting.

 

[tcdog70]

MadisonMD has 24 posts, and a significant portion of them are bashing Rick Ray. This may turn out to be true, but it is equally as likely madisonmd is just continuing to push his agenda.

pretty easy to bash Ray. He passed on Geno, who Ga. snapped up and His iffy JUCO doesn't pass. Jacoby Davis is still a ?. The big Kid will probably not play this year. Lewis is still hurt along with Steele. Applewhite is also a ?. So where is the warm and fuzzy feeling when discussing Ray?

 

[BiscuitEater]

Now that is an auspicious start ...

Word is leaking out that Travis daniels will not make his grades. Great class, only one signee can contribute!

for Ray's first real 'cruiting class.

Q Denson signs but is cut when he can't overcome 'outlaw' issues
Fallou Ndoye has 'foreign player' issues and can't play this year
Travis Daniels has 'academic' issues and can't pass ONE JC math class
So far, school hasn't started and 2 of 4 original signees never make it to campus and only 1 will be able to play ... if he can make it through fall camp.

Throw in Wendell Lewis' 'knee' issue that had to be cut again and it ain't a pretty picture.

 

[DAWG61]

Yea the much needed "help" is in rough shape right now.

1. IJ Ready - incoming freshman who most likely will be raw and need seasoning
2. Fallou Ndyoe - cant play this year
3. Travis Daniels - can't play and probably lost his scholarship now (not really a bad thing)
4. Jalen Steele - still injured
5. Wendell Lewis - still injured
6. Jacoby Davis - coming off an injury and has zero experience
7. Andre Applewhite - coming off an injury and has zero experience
8. DeRunnya Wilson - is he even on the team officially?

 

[Brad Stevens.sixpack]

You are right - and that is a good explanation of our situation. Hopefully we will be okay, but we aren't looking as deep as I was imagining a few months ago thanks to the separate Ndoye/Daniels/Wendell situations.

Right now, I think our depth chart looks something like this:

1 - Ready/Davis, Bloodman
2 - Sword, Cunningham (Insert Steele once he is healthy)
3 - Thomas, Applewhite
4 - Borchert, Johnson (possible Wilson for SEC play -- about same timetable as Lewis' "hopeful" return)
5 - Ware, (Lewis when healthy)

Without a healthy Wendell Lewis and an unknown if DeRunnya is even playing, it is quite obvious we will be quite thin in the 4/5 spots again without Ndoye and Daniels. It looks like we will be playing lots of small lineups again this year.

 

[IBleedMaroonDawg]

MSU Basketball threads just make me miss the ol' 34.

No really, I just realized this fact alone will make basketball season very interesting 'round here.

 

[DAWG61]

Here's to hoping Davis, Applewhite and Ready are as good as Ware, Sword and Thomas. With a year of experience for those returning and the extra bodies for subs this team still looks to be much improved and maybe by SEC play there will be an additional 3 players added to the mix (Steele, Lewis, Wilson).

 

[Seinfeld]

So in other words, we traded a coach who recruited high talent, questionable character guys to a coach who recruits questionable talent, questionable character guys. Can't wait for bball season to get here

 

[jwbigcreek]

Shoot, maybe I need to get in the recruiting game. I could pass any JC math class. MSU can pay me to take online JC math classes for players that need a little heppin. I might even freelance with the rest of the SEC schools.

 

[esplanade91]

Daniels was a huge waste of a scholarship anyway. 8 PPG!!!!! Gees man.

I'll give him a pass on this one recruiting class only because I just witnessed the worst basketball of all time and it wasn't his fault, but if he fails going forward I'm always going to come back to Daniels and say "here was the writing on the wall".

MSU is never going to be a one and done school like UK so I get that we have to have a coach that recruits middle of the pack guys and plans on getting the most of them, but I wish we'd find a happy medium between Ray and Stans. I'm not a huge fan of either, but I liked the assets each brings/brought to the table.

After witnessing some serious hoodrattery by current players this past season on friday nights before games I'm starting to give Stans a pass. It must go a lot deeper than head coach.

 

[mstateglfr]

We traded a coach for reasons besides what you list.

So in other words, we traded a coach who recruited high talent, questionable character guys to a coach who recruits questionable talent, questionable character guys. Can't wait for bball season to get here

And I would argue the 'high talent' comment. It was typically mid level to mid-high.

 

[maroonmania]

Daniels was a huge waste of a scholarship anyway. 8 PPG!!!!! Gees man.

I'll give him a pass on this one recruiting class only because I just witnessed the worst basketball of all time and it wasn't his fault, but if he fails going forward I'm always going to come back to Daniels and say "here was the writing on the wall".

MSU is never going to be a one and done school like UK so I get that we have to have a coach that recruits middle of the pack guys and plans on getting the most of them, but I wish we'd find a happy medium between Ray and Stans. I'm not a huge fan of either, but I liked the assets each brings/brought to the table.

After witnessing some serious hoodrattery by current players this past season on friday nights before games I'm starting to give Stans a pass. It must go a lot deeper than head coach.

I have to agree that its sort of a headscratcher that a guy with relatively meager JUCO stats AND academic question marks gets an SEC offer in the first place.