MSU (Dixon) vs Alabama (Ingram) on ESPN

lotsoflaughs69

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When Dixon runs all over Bama for 175+ and 2 TDs and Ingram is held under 75 yards will ESPN finally shut up about Ingram and give Dixon some credit. Maybe Dixon should line up at linebacker and dominate Ingram.
 

lotsoflaughs69

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When Dixon runs all over Bama for 175+ and 2 TDs and Ingram is held under 75 yards will ESPN finally shut up about Ingram and give Dixon some credit. Maybe Dixon should line up at linebacker and dominate Ingram.
 

TR.sixpack

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that ain't happening. Bama's run D is very good. And we've all seen how susceptible we are to good rushing teams. A best case scenario would for Dixon to run for about 100 yds and a few TD's, while we keep Ingram to below his average.
 

DerHntr

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bama is undefeated. we have 4 wins. undefeated teams will ALWAYS get more coverage and therefore their players will get more coverage.

if your suggested scenario actually played out that way, then dixon would get some publicity but i wouldn't consider it "finally" getting publicity.
 

lotsoflaughs69

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Of course players on undefeated teams get more coverage, but the articles on ESPN make this guy out to look like a god. He's good, but to say he's Heisman worthy is laughable. And I actually belive Dixon will have a huge game because we certainly aren't going to pass. I'm saying he gets 30+ touches which would come somewhere close to 175 by his average. Honestly, I think we win this game too..24-17
 

patdog

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was Florida. Dixon had 53 yards on 15 carries against Florida. I'm expecting something similar against Bama.
 

DerHntr

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this isn't what your post was about though
Of course players on undefeated teams get more coverage, but the articles on ESPN make this guy out to look like a god. He's good, but to say he's Heisman worthy is laughable.

you said that if dixon had a good game would "ESPN finally shut up about Ingram and give Dixon some credit." my point was they don't talk much about players on teams with 4 wins. Ingram will continue to get pub if they continue to win. I agree that he is no God on the football field but he is a well above average running back on a top 3 football team.

Bottom line: it just doesn't make sense to want them to "finally" give Dixon some credit AND stop talking so great about Ingram when they have very similar numbers and we happen to only be able to beat JSU, Vandy, MTSU, and Kentucky.

edit also to say.....



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ScoobaDawg

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Alright.. I dont want to think this way..
But seriously everyone here is the truth

Dixon was held to 26 yards on 11 rushes last season vs Bama

Read this from Bama's Game Notes for the week (p.4)

<span style="font-weight: bold;">STIFLING DEFENSE PUTTING UP IMPRESSIVE NUMBERS:</span> Alabama's defense over the past 23
games - or two seasons - has developed a reputation for its toughness, talent and pure speed, a
reputation verifi ed on the stat sheet. The Crimson Tide has held 20 teams under 100 yards rushing
over the past 23 games with only LSU and Florida in 2008 and Kentucky in 2009, able to
crack the 100-yard barrier as a team. In 2009, only Kentucky has managed more than 74 yards
rushing on the Tide. UA has surrendered just 1,665 yards on the ground in the last 24 games, an
average of 72.39 yards per game. No running back has cracked the 100-yard mark since Mississippi's
BenJarvus Green-Ellis went for 131 on Oct. 13, 2007, a span of 28 games.
The Alabama defense has held opponents under 200 yards of total off ense in nine of the last
23 games, including a 155-yard eff ort by Virginia Tech, a 187-yard showing by North Texas and
a 197-yard game by Mississippi in 2009. The sub-200-yard games in that span: Clemson (188);
Western Kentucky (158); Tennessee (173); Arkansas State (158); Mississippi State (167); Auburn
(170); Virginia Tech (155); North Texas (187); Mississippi (197).
 

lotsoflaughs69

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I'm glad you know what I meant when I posted my topic. I completely fine with them talking about Ingram, but watching an Alabama game on ESPN is like watching Ole Miss when Eli played. If Ingram runs for two yards the announcers say, "My God, that's the greatest run I've ever seen. All of you should bow to this fine human specimen." It's ridiculous. Who cares if he's on an undefeated team? Who cares if we only have 4 wins? That's not what I'm talking about. I'm just saying Ingram is no better than Dixon. Dixon deserves some credit. It's not his fault the team only has 4 wins.
 

eckie1

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I do not think that Dixon will have a good night vs bama, but you simply can't compare anything from last year to this year on offense. The worst coach we've ever had was running the worst "offense" we've ever seen last year. Even with Tyson Lee turning it over like he does, we are still a much better threat to score at any time compared to last year.
 

DerHntr

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let me be more clear.

first you say this:

I completely fine with them talking about Ingram, but watching an Alabama game on ESPN is like watching Ole Miss when Eli played. If Ingram runs for two yards the announcers say, "My God, that's the greatest run I've ever seen. All of you should bow to this fine human specimen." It's ridiculous.
and then you say this:

I'm just saying Ingram is no better than Dixon. Dixon deserves some credit.
so why would they give dixon credit if he and ingram are both similar backs AND it is ridiculous to talk great about Ingram? logic from your original statement is neither deserve to be talked about that much. and then we get back to my point that Ingram will be talked about because he is on a great team and players on great teams are discussed and praised for their actions much more than players on teams with four wins.
 

DerHntr

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did you read the rest of his post? the one thing that should have stood out was this:

The Crimson Tide has held 20 teams under 100 yards rushing over the past 23 games with only LSU and Florida in 2008 and Kentucky in 2009, able to crack the 100-yard barrier as a team
regardless if the offense was run by croom or any other coach they face, except for three times, they have held teams to less than 100 yards rushing. it will likely be a very long night for our running game on saturday. i hope dixon proves me very, very wrong though.
 

lotsoflaughs69

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I think you're missing the point here..I don't give a 17 if Alabama is undefeated. I don't a 17 that we only have 4 wins. And I can't wait till you watch the game on Saturday and see that Dixon is the superior back. What kind of State fan are you anyways? Your pessimistic view is sad. You need to stop believing all the bs that ESPN brainwashes you with and admit that Ingram will get dominated against us.
 

graddawg

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What in the world have you seen from our defense that makes you think it will dominate Bama's running game? Serious question. I think we will be in the game going into the fourth quarter just like the UF game, but we haven't dominate a decent running game all year.

And to answer your question about what kind of fan Der is, he's the reasonable kind who is able to objectively look at situations and evaluate them. You should try it some time.
 

Todd4State

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he's just saying that Dixon isn't getting as much mention from ESPN because we have four wins. And he's right.

And by the way, if Dixon gets 100 yards against Bama, it will be a tremendous feat. Sometimes you have to pay the devil his due. And it's not so much about Dixon being bad as it is Bama's d-line is better than our o-line and we have a QB that they probably laughed at in the film room, much less respect his passing ability.
 

DerHntr

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i guess you are trying to make your way onto the board by doing your best to insult me. good work. i use your words to clearly show that you don't have a clue what you are talking about and then you follow up with a huge pump of sunshine about this coming weekend. again, good work chief.

at what point in any of my posts specifically to you did i state that ingram was the superior back? when did i say i believe ESPN? i actually agreed with you that he is not a god like he is portrayed sometimes and i stated that their numbers are very similar. my main point was that he gets publicity because he is on an undefeated team and that teams that are undefeated have players who get fellated and loved on by the press more than it may warrant. even if you don't give a 17 that they are undefeated and that we only have 4 wins it won't change a damn thing when it comes to how the two backs are talked about. it is the reality of sports commentating. if we win and dixon has a great game then he will be talked about but it won't be a "finally" type moment for me because i understand the reality of the situation and you don't.

i would be damn glad for dixon to have the game of his life on saturday and for us to win. it wouldn't be rubbing anything in my face like you imply.

i won't admit **** about what ingram will or won't do against us. i don't really know how he will do.

lastly, i was nice at first. but that being said, go 17 yourself.
 

patdog

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Mr Meoff said:
<span class="post-title">DH, I think you're wasting good porn surfing time on this guy. Look at his username --</span> am I the only one who thinks he's just trying to stir **** up?
Note that I only responded to him during working hours. You can't possibly waste working time by responding to dipshits on the Internet.
 

Coach34

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Todd4State said:
he's just saying that Dixon isn't getting as much mention from ESPN because we have four wins. And he's right.

And by the way, if Dixon gets 100 yards against Bama, it will be a tremendous feat. Sometimes you have to pay the devil his due. And it's not so much about Dixon being bad as it is Bama's d-line is better than our o-line and we have a QB that they probably laughed at in the film room, much less respect his passing ability.
because Charles Scott only got 83 yards, altho he was on his way to 100 when he got hurt