That's just crazy, we are THE University in Mississippi.
http://www.clarionledger.com/article/20100823/NEWS/8230319/1001/RSS01
http://www.clarionledger.com/article/20100823/NEWS/8230319/1001/RSS01
MSU enrollment to top 19,000 this fall.
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That's just crazy, we are THE University in Mississippi.
http://www.clarionledger.com/article/20100823/NEWS/8230319/1001/RSS01
http://www.clarionledger.com/article/20100823/NEWS/8230319/1001/RSS01
Lower admission standards or are we pulling more out of state people? I'm actually curious, unfortunately I have the feeling its the former.
Also, am I the only one that thinksmore studentsdoesn't equalbetter (I'm being very general in regard to "better")?
Also, am I the only one that thinksmore studentsdoesn't equalbetter (I'm being very general in regard to "better")?
No clue.
More isn't always better. In our case, it probably it is. We've dumped alot of money in improvements/expansions over the last decade. There has to be a "breakeven" point on student body and I'm going to assume it's pretty high up there so we can cover fixed costs. If we don't increase our head count, then we probably have big problems in terms of operating effectively.
There are plenty of huge schools out there with high-quality education. I don't have any problems with us wanting to push towards 23k and beyond - that's not that large in the grand scheme of State Universities. I do share your worry though...I'd be inclined to say we are bringing in higher quantities of students that are in the lower quartiles of desirable prospective students. That probably has more to do with the State's HS education system than anything else.
Anyone have the entering freshmens student profile? I can't find it...
so we can't be bringing lower than what the state allows. Maybe more people just want to go to State.
I was referring to accepting more students that barely qualify and bringing the measurables (ACT, GPA, Top 15%, etc.) of our entering classes down. I don't know if that's the case or not. That's why I'd like to see our student profile. If the measurables aren't going down while the enrollment is going up, we are in great shape. Otherwise, we might have some work to do to make sure the quality of education doesn't suffer in an effort to keep the enrollment up...
poker game, the usm fans were griping about all of the kids at oak grove wanting to go to State. They were saying "they don't want to go to usm or olemiss, they all want to go to State". I was a little surprised b/c Oak Grove is heavily populated with doctors and I would have thought that all of their kids would be going to olemiss. But the way these guys were talking, State has made a good impression among the kids in Oak Grove for whatever reason.
from an economics standpoint, you could argue that we have a lot of new students who decided to go to school because of the horrible job market.<div>
</div><div>Also, more people are going to school in general, and we aren't opening up new state universities. Growth should be the name of the game for years to come unless policy changes. As of right now, state schools must legally admit all students that meet admission requirements. So, Mississippi state schools will grow as long as new ones aren't open.</div><div>
</div><div>Also, Dan Mullen.</div>
</div><div>Also, more people are going to school in general, and we aren't opening up new state universities. Growth should be the name of the game for years to come unless policy changes. As of right now, state schools must legally admit all students that meet admission requirements. So, Mississippi state schools will grow as long as new ones aren't open.</div><div>
</div><div>Also, Dan Mullen.</div>
...speaking to many manyhigh schools and sellingMSU.At the time, I heard many good things from students and from message board posts about his visits.
Malcolm Portera, MSU president from 1998 to 2001 (two presidents before Doc), actually tried to keep MSU smaller on purpose. Don't know Charles Lee's(MSU pres 2002-2006) position on enrollment or how much we grew during that time (and don't feel like looking it up right now).
Malcolm Portera, MSU president from 1998 to 2001 (two presidents before Doc), actually tried to keep MSU smaller on purpose. Don't know Charles Lee's(MSU pres 2002-2006) position on enrollment or how much we grew during that time (and don't feel like looking it up right now).
http://www.ir.msstate.edu/
They have most of the enrollment, graduation, retention, etc. statistics about the university. A lot of the info about the this fall will be absent or preliminary. Most universities work on a 14-day census, and then it takes a bit of time to process the data, so it could be a few weeks before final reports are out on most things. Profiles will be out a bit quicker than things like retention rates, etc.
They have most of the enrollment, graduation, retention, etc. statistics about the university. A lot of the info about the this fall will be absent or preliminary. Most universities work on a 14-day census, and then it takes a bit of time to process the data, so it could be a few weeks before final reports are out on most things. Profiles will be out a bit quicker than things like retention rates, etc.
Keep in mind the "official" admittance standards don't mean much, because State will let you in on probation. I know people who got in with ACT scores below the teens.
We always said the admission standards at MSU was to havetuition in hand in the admissions office.
We always said the admission standards at MSU was to havetuition in hand in the admissions office.
As it applies equally to om and others in our fanbase, as well...
But the attitude you just enunciated, that we are doing ok and should hold the course, while we should both still be second or third tier universities... That is why we have the problems as they exist. OM and State would do well to focus on objective rather than relative success...
But the attitude you just enunciated, that we are doing ok and should hold the course, while we should both still be second or third tier universities... That is why we have the problems as they exist. OM and State would do well to focus on objective rather than relative success...
Some people have been getting government assistance to go back to school, especially in in the case where a business moves their jobs out of country. If you can't get a job, get a grant and go to school.
the state of Texas for new students. Only the top 10% of high school graduates in the state of Texas can enroll at aTm or UT-Austin. So, the state of Texas has a bumper crop of good candidates who may have barely missed out on Austin or College Station but don't won't to pay private school tuition at Baylor, TCU, SMU, etc.
on writing regression dealing with enrollment. We were given enrollment figures over the last 10 years and the tuition prices. Both of which have increased drastically over the last decade BTW.
If you just ran the numbers you'd come to the conclussion that the two were co-linear. Meaning that as tution rises so does enrollment, but that can't be case, because that'd mean you could set tuition at $10,000 per semester and the enrollment would rise accordingly.
If you just ran the numbers you'd come to the conclussion that the two were co-linear. Meaning that as tution rises so does enrollment, but that can't be case, because that'd mean you could set tuition at $10,000 per semester and the enrollment would rise accordingly.
But a growing number of them now prefer MSU over Mississippi. More and more Oak Grove kids are discovering how bad southern sucks and state does a great job at recruiting that area. I have a family member who just graduated from there and she went to state. She told me that most of her friends that did not go to southern chose to go to State. When I graduated from there a number of years ago not many of my classmates went to state.DirtyLopez said:
zerocooldog said:
The real reason is that we are recruiting better and getting our story out. We are stealing kids that used to go to other schools. At my kids high school in Memphis (a top private school), a few years ago there were maybe 1-2 kids to go to State a year. Last year there were almost 40! We are growing the right way. Not just taking marginal students.